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Larry7293
11-13-2021, 07:02 PM
Any difference in quality - specs. - of either a lyman or rcbs lube sizer die? Is one better than the other?
Are both pretty precise in their sizing of say a .459 boolit?

Walks
11-13-2021, 07:08 PM
Lyman changed the Lube Entry holes so that they are now evenly spaced around the body of the die, just like the RCBS.
I've plenty of both, never noticed a difference in eithers sizing ability.
There is more "bounce back" depending on the hardness of alloy used.

jimkim
11-13-2021, 07:16 PM
The only real difference I've seen is my RCBS dies have fewer lube ports/holes.

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Larry7293
11-13-2021, 07:20 PM
Is that good or bad?

Green Frog
11-13-2021, 07:58 PM
Then importance of number and location of holes depends on bullet used. While I haven't compared directly between manufacturers, there is a range of tolerance within examples of the Lyman dies. Once I've got the right size from either manufacturer and have it in my Lyman 450, I can't see any difference between how they seem to work.

Froggie

smithnframe
11-13-2021, 08:08 PM
They both work fine for me!

Winger Ed.
11-13-2021, 09:27 PM
I have both, and can't tell any difference.

If anything, the ones with holes at 4 points of the body seem to take a little less pressure on the handle to fill.
But it's not enough to really prefer one over the other.

Dusty Bannister
11-13-2021, 09:35 PM
At some point in the past there were comments that the tapered portion of the Lyman lube sizer was formed just a little differently and gave problems being installed in the RCBS lube sizer. I have not seen that complaint lately, so perhaps it was just a temporary QC issue. There may be a thread or more in the archives.

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?60532-Major-problem-w-RCBS-Lub-sizer&highlight=RCBS+lube+die+long

Mk42gunner
11-13-2021, 10:27 PM
All that I have bought new in the last fifteen years have been spot on as to size. Maybe I got lucky, several times??

Since I haven't had a bad experience with either brand, I buy the least expensive one when I do buy new.

Robert

Winger Ed.
11-13-2021, 11:07 PM
Lyman lube sizer was formed just a little differently and gave problems being installed in the RCBS lube sizer.

I've got a pretty good mix of both brands of dies from the mid-80s till a year or two ago, and a RCBS sizer.
If there ever was any problem, I'm not smart enough to realize it.

Walks
11-13-2021, 11:14 PM
Some one here makes a Superior Die nut wrench for the Lyman 450. Can't remember his name, but the wrench is FANTASTIC.

Shopdog
11-14-2021, 07:15 AM
Make my own. Finished a suhweet,.2665 yesterday. Have 3 Lyman 450's. The leade in is critical,as y'all know. The "fit" between the inner rod and sizer needs due attention. The closer, the better.... but watch the finish on the "I".... it needs to have the right amt of "valleys" to hold lubrication. This way you can run a tighter tolerance without it getting stuck. Hope you understand that,tough for me to describe things...... more at home in front of our machines.

Hanzy4200
11-14-2021, 08:49 AM
I ave both. No discernible difference. Get whatever is cheaper.

Half Dog
11-14-2021, 10:52 AM
RCBS has 4 holes spread evenly around the sizer and a groove to help distribute the lube between the holes.

Cosmic_Charlie
11-25-2021, 03:53 PM
I had one of each in .431" The. Lyman had the wax port holes higher up on the die than the RCBS. It would leave wax in the crimp groove no matter how I adjusted the boolit stop.

bob15
11-27-2021, 09:11 AM
The Lyman's have 8 holes around the die, 90° apart.

15meter
11-27-2021, 10:04 AM
For me the biggest difference is Lyman stamps the size in the top, RCBS on the side.

With geezer memory and eyesight, I can't tell if it's a die for 6.5 or 7mm with out reading what's on the die. The likelihood of me remembering what I sized last is pretty slim, even if it was just yesterday.

1hole
11-27-2021, 10:20 AM
I had one of each in .431" The. Lyman had the wax port holes higher up on the die than the RCBS. It would leave wax in the crimp groove no matter how I adjusted the boolit stop.

Keep adjusting. It's not possible to inject lube into a crimp groove unless the bullet is pushed below the upper lube hole.

I see no effective difference between RCBS and Lyman lubrasizer dies.

flatnose
11-27-2021, 01:36 PM
Lyman dies have the radius groove required for the Lyman 45 lubesizer which I am still using.

Shuz
11-27-2021, 02:06 PM
I have both.I can not tell any difference in performance between the two brands, but I strongly prefer the Lyman because they stamp the size on the top of the die where you can read it when installed in the lubrisizer.

remy3424
11-28-2021, 08:35 AM
Some one here makes a Superior Die nut wrench for the Lyman 450. Can't remember his name, but the wrench is FANTASTIC.

"theperfessor" is the fella who makes the tool referenced, he makes great top punches also, it looks like he hasn't been here for a year now, I PMed him the last time I needed punches. I PMed him and he replied and took care of me. Does anyone have an update on Keith?