Mil surp / pulldown powder question

[Wolfdog91]

Quick question on the subject. How long does it usually take for it to restock? Been eyeing two places for a while now and no luck.

[LAH]

Have no idea. Watch GI Brass if you're not.

[MUSTANG]

and/or Pat's Reloading. It's there when it's there in today's conditions.

[P Flados]

It depends on what you are looking for. And you should probably be looking at more than 2 places.

https://redeyereloading.com/product-category/powder/

https://americanreloading.com/en/264-midwest-powders

https://fedarm.com/product-category/ammunition-components/powder/

http://www.gibrass.com/gunpowder.html

https://www.cdvs.us/product-category/powder-other-products/

[FLINTNFIRE]

Good advice above and a list along with the 2 previous mentioned sites , but the best days of surplus powders are gone .

Look at some of the prices and what is in stock , it is not the bargain it used to be .

I have used it off and on , the slow stuff works in overbore calibers , large case small diameter , it does take some research and some working up loads , starting low and seeing what works .

Good luck finding what you are looking for .

[zarrinvz24]

I placed an order for WC872 with gibrass in April. Expected shipping time was 9-10 weeks. I received said order first week in October. Service was good, product was great. This is just how things are right now.

[starnbar]

The powder is there it is a logistics problem CDVS has my order from august talked to em every 2 weeks nobody is shipping.

[zarrinvz24]

It is entire logistics, Jeff from GI Brass had said he is limited to shipping 200lb of powder per day. He is shipping the maximum he can. The trouble is when everyone is ordering a case of 6x8lb = 48lb per order, so only 3 or 4 orders can go out per day. I noticed the shipped weight on my order was 54lb. This is why there is a 6+ month backlog.

[dverna]

It is entire logistics, Jeff from GI Brass had said he is limited to shipping 200lb of powder per day. He is shipping the maximum he can. The trouble is when everyone is ordering a case of 6x8lb = 48lb per order, so only 3 or 4 orders can go out per day. I noticed the shipped weight on my order was 54lb. This is why there is a 6+ month backlog.

Why is there is a limit on how much a retailer can ship? Can he supply the reason that can be verified? I doubt a place like Powder Valley has such restrictions or they would not sell powder. Something does not make sense.

[knifemaker]

Why is there is a limit on how much a retailer can ship? Can he supply the reason that can be verified? I doubt a place like Powder Valley has such restrictions or they would not sell powder. Something does not make sense

dverna, you need to re-think what you stated above. If powder valley had a 200 pound shipping restriction per day. At 30 dollars per pound that would be 6 thousand dollars in sales and would be selling powder. It sounds like the shippers have placed restrictions on sellers in order to accommodate more sellers per truck load.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Quick question on the subject. How long does it usually take for it to restock? Been eyeing two places for a while now and no luck.

The liquidators that sell milsurp pull-down powder are at the whim of what the Government is currently selling...and when the Government decides to sell. So the answer could be tomorrow or never or somewhere in between.

I'd love to see GiBrass get some more of that Alcan powder that was very close to SR4759, I wish I bought more than 3 jugs when it was available, as I am fairly sure it'll never show up again.

[Brokenbear]

This is what I am told regarding hazmat shipments which are enforced by the Department of Transportation
Individual shipments 25 lbs
200lbs is the gross number of pounds an individual DOT vehicle (fedex/ups may transport (without going to the next level of classification like "class A Explosive" ) or whatever the next level is ...but the company insurance carriers will not allow fedex/ups to placard a vehicle or haul the next level up
SO...if you have a powder guy sitting in a large metro area where he can get 2 or 3 pickups a day from a carrier who then has multiple over the road trucks going multiple different directions he can ship as many 200lb pick ups a day as he can get then to pick up
Conversely ...a powder guy siting in a rural area is screwed in that he can only get one 200lb outbound shipment a day because the rural collection point has only one over the road truck going to the big city hub and it has the same 200lb limitation that the local pick up and delivery units have
This I pieced together after ordering a new Lee Pro 4 20 pot , 5 lbs of powder and 1000 primers ...I got the shipment 3 weeks after it was ordered (Shipped the day after I ordered) finally somewhere in the tail end of the wait a "new" girl filled me in ..I say new because she did not know her job was to keep selling and no talking I guess

Anyway it makes sense as I know DOT is crazy tuff on ANY hazmat stuff

DISCLAIMER: this info and 50 cents will not get you a cup of coffee

Bear

[dverna]

This is what I am told regarding hazmat shipments which are enforced by the Department of Transportation
Individual shipments 25 lbs
200lbs is the gross number of pounds an individual DOT vehicle (fedex/ups may transport (without going to the next level of classification like "class A Explosive" ) or whatever the next level is ...but the company insurance carriers will not allow fedex/ups to placard a vehicle or haul the next level up
SO...if you have a powder guy sitting in a large metro area where he can get 2 or 3 pickups a day from a carrier who then has multiple over the road trucks going multiple different directions he can ship as many 200lb pick ups a day as he can get then to pick up
Conversely ...a powder guy siting in a rural area is screwed in that he can only get one 200lb outbound shipment a day because the rural collection point has only one over the road truck going to the big city hub and it has the same 200lb limitation that the local pick up and delivery units have
This I pieced together after ordering a new Lee Pro 4 20 pot , 5 lbs of powder and 1000 primers ...I got the shipment 3 weeks after it was ordered (Shipped the day after I ordered) finally somewhere in the tail end of the wait a "new" girl filled me in ..I say new because she did not know her job was to keep selling and no talking I guess

Anyway it makes sense as I know DOT is crazy tuff on ANY hazmat stuff

DISCLAIMER: this info and 50 cents will not get you a cup of coffee

Bear

Thanks for sharing that information. It is understandable that the carrier may have a load restriction. A retailer could use FedEx, UPS and DHL and sell 600 lbs a day if need be.

It did not make sense that the retailer would have a restriction from the research I did when looking into getting HazMat certification.

[Winger Ed.]

Why is there is a limit on how much a retailer can ship?

Got to be a DOT thing about how much of each kind of a HAZMAT item can be on one truck without special permits or placards.