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bishopgrandpa
10-30-2021, 01:01 PM
I have some 10 year old 2# blocks that have been sitting on a shelf for at least 10 years. The color is a faded yellow to white color now. Is it still good for lube making. What effect does age have?

Hossfly
10-30-2021, 01:29 PM
I have some at least 5-6 yo and its fine. Cant see any difference from when i first got it.

JonB_in_Glencoe
10-30-2021, 01:37 PM
About 6 years ago, I bought some "vintage" beeswax from a fellow member here. 2" thick chunks and were white on outside, but yellow on inside. The seller said these chunks had been in a unheated farm shed for decades...maybe since the 1960s?
It works just fine in boolit Lube. When I melted this old stuff, it still had a hint of the honey smell.

Tar Heel
10-30-2021, 05:37 PM
It's a scientific fact that older beeswax works more better. Proven by the FDA and the DOT and documented somewhere in the Library of Congress by scientists. Apparently 9 out of 10 of the scientists agreed on the analysis so there it is. :-)

1Hawkeye
10-30-2021, 07:35 PM
From what I understand bees wax like honey dosen't deteriorate with age.

Dusty Bannister
10-30-2021, 09:27 PM
That is my understanding too. Just try to keep it clean, and if it does get dirty, melt and strain and be more careful next time.

centershot
10-31-2021, 12:41 PM
It's a scientific fact that older beeswax works more better. Proven by the FDA and the DOT and documented somewhere in the Library of Congress by scientists. Apparently 9 out of 10 of the scientists agreed on the analysis so there it is. :-)

^^^^^ What he said!!!

gwpercle
10-31-2021, 03:25 PM
It's just fine to use . I have some refined beeswax I bought in 1973 ... that's 48 years old , it has been kept in the cardboard box it came in ... still the same medium brown color , no fading ...
I bought un-bleached beeswax ... the bleached stuff was very light , nearly white color ... the un-bleached was the color of natural honey comb ... a medium dark brown .
It has not darkened , lightened or dried out over the last 48 years ... I still use it for fluxing and when making Lithi-Bee lube .
Gary

trapper9260
11-02-2021, 04:40 AM
I have some old bees wax it is over 20 years old I think and it still looks the same as if I got it and smell the same as one that you just got . Like stated that it will last as long as you take care of it from the elements.

barrabruce
11-03-2021, 07:12 AM
The capping are yellow / white colour.
The bit that seals the honey into the combs.

The darker brown wax is from the combs themselves as they get used for many cycles thou the separators.

You can make brown wax /white by running it through a solar melter and which leaves the the brown bits behind.
In fact there could even be beneficial properties in it.
One would have to ask a bee keeper that one as I have forgotten.

GregLaROCHE
11-03-2021, 07:22 AM
There shouldn’t be any problems with it. With the prices for it today, you are lucky you have some.

John Boy
11-03-2021, 10:13 AM
https://hiveharvest.com/beeswax-facts-and-faqs/

Soundguy
11-03-2021, 11:07 AM
Should work just fine

59sharps
05-12-2022, 05:44 PM
no its no good for lube use . send it to me. :kidding:

brassrat
05-12-2022, 08:13 PM
One of the things that I bought when I started casting around 12yrs ago was some really nice, maybe 2" ingots. I think I am on my first one, for fluxing. They have been really sealed up and, like new, I am certain. One day I may use for lube which I thought would be, immediately necessary.

gutshot_again
07-04-2022, 08:48 AM
I've used beeswax 55 years old. Could see no difference between that or fresh.

1hole
07-05-2022, 12:22 PM
I've used beeswax 55 years old. Could see no difference between that or fresh.

With things like beeswax 55 years old IS fresh! :)

Rapier
07-05-2022, 03:24 PM
Beeswax goes back to Egyptian Pharos and embalming or mummification, so the properties of bees wax last for eons.

brassrat
07-06-2022, 12:14 AM
I go through the candles at the thrift store and have some nice ones. Sometimes I sniff one and look like a little girly looking for something nice smelling.

1hole
07-06-2022, 10:18 AM
I go through the candles at the thrift store and have some nice ones. Sometimes I sniff one and look like a little girly looking for something nice smelling.

:) I did that "Dollar Tree candle smell check" just a couple of days back. After being careful that no one watched toxic manly me doing it of course!

I've long mixed assorted waxes and oils for both bullet and case sizing lubes. I don't know or care if they help anything but I know for sure that in the modest quantities I use them they won't hurt anything. I like to use inexpensive scented candles as a hardening additive to my reloading lubes simply because they are clean and smell nice.

brassrat
07-06-2022, 10:47 AM
You won't find any beeswax at any first-hand stores including the big candle stores. Maybe its my rotten State. Sniffing really hasnt helped, Its like pewter, I can spot it.

kevin c
07-06-2022, 01:04 PM
You won't find any beeswax at any first-hand stores including the big candle stores. Maybe its my rotten State. Sniffing really hasnt helped, Its like pewter, I can spot it.

Oh, sure you can!

But, just like pewter, it’ll be a relatively rare item among all the paraffin versions, and command a premium price when new or if sold as a vintage item in a snobby antique shop.

I just saw a large pewter plate in a high end shop, a fancy reproduction that I recognized from buying at an estate sale. They were asking hundreds of dollars for something I bought at scrap price.

1hole
07-06-2022, 07:37 PM
You won't find any beeswax at any first-hand stores including the big candle stores.

The point of adding bee's wax and candle wax to my homemade bullet and case lubes isn't to make better candles but to add body to other waxes and oils to make overly soft mixtures hard enough to use normally. It doesn't take much scented candle wax to help with the needed hardness and the faint odor is pleasant too.

JSnover
07-09-2022, 07:44 AM
You won't find any beeswax at any first-hand stores including the big candle stores. Maybe its my rotten State. Sniffing really hasnt helped, Its like pewter, I can spot it.

My first source was Cast Boolits members, but it can be bought online.
If there's a "Michael's" craft store near you, they had beeswax the last time I needed some.