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oneokie
01-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Found a set of scope rings in a junk box. Any idea of what they fit?

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn16/oneokie/100_0635.jpg

Rings are marked Herters.

Lloyd Smale
01-12-2009, 09:05 PM
groved reciever on a 22

oneokie
01-12-2009, 10:50 PM
Next question. Which 22's have the 3/4" dovetailed receivers?

JIMinPHX
01-12-2009, 11:35 PM
I believe that there are 3 standard dovetail sizes. The smallest is for the .22 standard rimfires. The intermediate size is for the .22 Magnums. The biggest one is for all the others. I don't remember the actual sizes. I'd have to go measure them. I seem to remember the .22 LR dovetail being more like 3/8" than 3/4", but that's just off the top of my head & subject to error. Don't bank on that number.

Bret4207
01-13-2009, 08:21 AM
Next question. Which 22's have the 3/4" dovetailed receivers?

Seems to me quite a few did like Marlins,Savages, Mossbergs. The little 3/8" jobs were on air guns IIRC.

44man
01-13-2009, 09:44 AM
Those were made by Weaver and should fit Weaver bases. You are measuring them with the lock tap screwed up tight.
I think you are pulling our legs! :veryconfu

oneokie
01-13-2009, 10:59 AM
Those were made by Weaver and should fit Weaver bases. You are measuring them with the lock tap screwed up tight.
I think you are pulling our legs! :veryconfu


Not pulling anyones leg.

No way, now how, will the pictured rings fit Weaver bases. Tried that.

IIRC, Sako? used a 7/8" integral dovetail on some models of centerfire???

Cap'n Morgan
01-13-2009, 11:19 AM
I believe small caliber Brno CZ rifles use 3/4" integrated dovetails. At least the older models. Same thing with my BSA model 54 Hornet.

oneokie
01-13-2009, 11:45 AM
I believe small caliber Brno CZ rifles use 3/4" integrated dovetails. At least the older models. Same thing with my BSA model 54 Hornet.

Do you have a picture you could post showing details of the dovetails on your rifles?

Safeshot
01-13-2009, 12:50 PM
Your "Herters Rings" fit the "Herters Bases". They were plain dovetail bases and screwed on to the receiver just like Weaver Bases, but are not the same and not interchangeable with weaver bases.
The rings were noted for "not slipping" on the scope tube. They were also known for denting and deforming the scope tube. If you can find an old Herters Catalog it will tell you all about all the "advantages" of the Herters rings and bases. I liked a lot of the "Herters Stuff" but did not like the Herters rings and bases. They are neat reminders of a bygone ira. Safeshot

JIMinPHX
01-13-2009, 02:33 PM
This isn't really the right way to measure a dovetail, but these pictures should give you some idea of what the standard centerfire & .22 mag sizes are.

Cap'n Morgan
01-13-2009, 03:18 PM
Oneokie,

I measured the dovetails on my BSA. They are 0.78" at the widest point - an original Weaver ring will not grip it properly.

The picture really doesn't do the little rifle justice, but it'll have to do:

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1753/img0611ag8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

oneokie
01-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Cap'n Morgan,

The dovetails in your picture look like they would be a match for the rings in my picture.

Thank you for taking the time to post your picture.

44man
01-13-2009, 04:54 PM
Your "Herters Rings" fit the "Herters Bases". They were plain dovetail bases and screwed on to the receiver just like Weaver Bases, but are not the same and not interchangeable with weaver bases.
The rings were noted for "not slipping" on the scope tube. They were also known for denting and deforming the scope tube. If you can find an old Herters Catalog it will tell you all about all the "advantages" of the Herters rings and bases. I liked a lot of the "Herters Stuff" but did not like the Herters rings and bases. They are neat reminders of a bygone ira. Safeshot
That would be my next thought. Herters had made funny size stuff overseas. But I am pretty sure they had Weaver make the rings for them. I sure wish I had my old catalog.

Hipshot
01-15-2009, 07:30 PM
For what it is worth BSA made some rifles for BSA or at least some BSA actions were used on some Herters rifles. I believe the action model was U9 .

Hipshot