Where do you think the price of 22LR ammo will settle?

[jimlj]

Disclaimer alert.... I grew up in the days of 50 cent boxes of ammo. I think anything over 1 cent a round is crazy price, but I make way more than a buck an hour so I guess 10 cent a round is not out of line.

Where do you think the price of ammo will settle in at once the shelves are full again?
I thought it would be about 10% higher after the pandemic/Obiden scare. When it started trickling in I was fairly close, but in the past month I've watched the price of Federal Auto Match go up $4 a box at wallyworld. I think the shortage is starting to ease up a bit, several stores in my area have stock on a regular basis, but my 10% prediction is not cutting it anymore. Is it run away inflation?

Anyone care to guess on prices??

[Beagle333]

It's running around 26 cents here. I'd like to see it back to 10 cents per round one day.
I know the days of a nickel/pop are gone.

[Winger Ed.]

I haven't bought .22s since Moby Dick was a minnow, and won't for a long time.
But I'd figure it'll settle back in a year or so to about 75% of what you see it marked at now
when you can find it at non-scalper prices.

Same as primers:
Awhile back, I had a few extra bucks in the 'Keep Winger Ed. from Starving to Death This Week' fund,
and was going to buy 5 or 6,000 SP & SR and Midway had them for about $45. per 1,000.
I wasn't out,, there was no big rush, so I thought I'd wait until they had a free hazmat charge offer or a sale.

A week or so later---- I missed the boat. That train pulled out of the station, and I wasn't on it.
Now, when you can find them, $75-100. per 1,000 is what you see, with a limit of one + hazmat.
In a year or so, leaving room for inflation:
I'd expect them to fall back to about $55-65 without limits & restrictions when supply catches back up to demand.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

I'm guessing that the cheap blasting ammo will eventually be $25 a brick, and the better grade of stuff just under $30. Did you note the word "guessing"? It will be several more months.

DG

[Ithaca Gunner]

Like Winger Ed I have a lifetime supply laid in, but I do buy shorts or some special .22 lr from time to time and can live with .10 a round if I have to every now and again. Used to be able to buy shorts cheaper than LR's. That too is gone.

[Jack Stanley]

I'll save my guess until we find out if congress is going to spend five trillion of your dollars ( that you haven't made yet ) .

Jack

[762sultan]

I'm with Jack Stanley...I'm not spending my money till after I earn it. Besides I laid in a fair amount before this nonsence began.

[Burnt Fingers]

Mini mags at Walmart are a bit over $9/100 now. That's the new normal.

[Jedman]

I’m thinking you will see 22 LR for less than .10 a round but it will be another year or more. Just my 2 cents.

Jedman

[Jsm180]

$.10 a round now at Palmetto for plinker Federal with free ship, be nice if it went lower. Might sell more if they didn't advertise it was .25/round. $80 for 800 rounds

https://palmettostatearmory.com/federal-range-pack-40gr-hv-lrn-22-long-rifle-ammunition-800-rounds-729b800.html

[Edward]

I'm guessing that the cheap blasting ammo will eventually be $25 a brick, and the better grade of stuff just under $30. Did you note the word "guessing"? It will be several more months.

DG

Think anyone predicting prices with what is going on is dreaming ,perhaps learn to reload your 22 as if this goes the way it is headed you will not be buying any ! According to the health officials ,guns are now a health emergency subject to guess whos executive order/Ed

[Hogtamer]

I’m less sanguine about prices coming down again than many here. The present administration will do anything, lawful or not, to assure ammo remains scarce and expensive.

[Mk42gunner]

I’m less sanguine about prices coming down again than many here. The present administration will do anything, lawful or not, to assure ammo remains scarce and expensive.

This strikes me as a very true statement. I wish it wasn't, but we all know the old saying about wish in one hand...

Robert

[tazman]

It really doesn't matter too much how much the price of ammo settles. If you need it you will buy it. Just like the price of gasoline. you have to have it so you buy it as needed and pay whatever the price might be. The only other real option is to do without or reload.
If it gets too expensive, I will, of necessity, shoot less.

[Rich/WIS]

Gun show here a couple months ago had Aquila in 500 round bricks for $65 next to mixed brands for $25 for 50. Bought some from different forums as I was getting low, got 2000 Win for 12.5 cents delivered and 3250 Fed Auto Match for a fraction over 10 cents a round. Local shop had CCI for just over 13 cents a round. Suspect prices will fall some more but just when is open to debate. In any event don't think prices will come down to pre panic levels if only because of higher material costs.

[Char-Gar]

When it comes to guns and ammo, if you can't make it, buy it when and if you can. We have been on a guns and ammo roller coaster famine, more than a dozen years and you can't plan for things to change. Like others, I have a lifetime supply of all that is needed.

[dverna]

I probably will not be buying anymore .22LR. Started shooting PCP rifles this year and I prefer shooting them at ranges up to 50 yards. Much quieter (no hearing protection), more accurate, and cheap to shoot.

I might have lifetime supply of .22LR now that the air rifles are getting most of my range time. None of my .22's shoot bargain ammunition very well.

Hard to predict what will happen with price once (if?) we get back to normal. Pre panic I bought it at less than $.04/round in case lots. Even with inflation, it should not go much over $.08/rd unless the manufacturers/distributers/retailers decide to increase margins.

[crackers]

Most people don’t reload, much less cast. For the guy who wants to avoid a thirty-dollar box of rifle ammo, a sixty-dollar brick of .22s is a great deal. Much like the sixty-dollar primers everyone wants.

[Ickisrulz]

Disclaimer alert.... I grew up in the days of 50 cent boxes of ammo. I think anything over 1 cent a round is crazy price, but I make way more than a buck an hour so I guess 10 cent a round is not out of line.

Where do you think the price of ammo will settle in at once the shelves are full again?
I thought it would be about 10% higher after the pandemic/Obiden scare. When it started trickling in I was fairly close, but in the past month I've watched the price of Federal Auto Match go up $4 a box at wallyworld. I think the shortage is starting to ease up a bit, several stores in my area have stock on a regular basis, but my 10% prediction is not cutting it anymore. Is it run away inflation?

Anyone care to guess on prices??

22 ammo will come back at 4-5 cents per round.

[Char-Gar]

22 ammo will come back at 4-5 cents per round.

Yes, it will, but Jesus will come back before that happens.

[Ole Joe Clarke]

I bought some Federal Auto Match at Wally World this morning for $18.73 for 325. With tax it worked out to .064 cents each, which was the price, or real close, 2 years ago before the panic buying. My old Marlin 80 DL really likes that brand.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

[dverna]

Got an ad from Midwayusa or Midsouth that 100 rd packs were $10.

[Ickisrulz]

During the last shortage, many said that we'd never see 22 ammo below 8-10 cents per shot. But we did. They got down to 4-5 cents each once everyone filled their closets and ammo was available whenever you wanted it. We will go back to that eventually, I guarantee it!

[ulav8r]

2 months ago, Just over .04 each for the Winchester 555,s. https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?430005-Bought-some-ammo-today

[GhostHawk]

Think of it as teeth on a saw, they go up and come back down. But each time they go up they do not go back as low as the time before.

I would not be surprised to see it "hang" up in the 8 to 10 cents per round range.

I decided for fun shooting it might be wiser to return to using my Air Rifles and pistols.
I was able to score 5k pellets for 1.24 cents ea. 6.24 per 500 tin.

Best of all those I can shoot in my basement. No loading the range bag, hauling out to the jeep, no driving, no unloading and setting up. And no repeating the process in reverse to go home.

Just walk down stairs, turn on the lights, decide if I want to play with the little .177 Beeman pistol, the Crossman 1322 with carbine stock, steel breech and Pic rail with Red Dot sight mounted, or.22 Hatsan break action pistol, or the big Hatsan 95 .22 rifle.

I fired one round with the Big Hatsan 95 last night. Pop, dead center bullseye, exactly where I wanted it. Not bad for sitting on the shelf for 4 years.

[dverna]

Ghosthawk,

I am on the same path...but I am even "lazier" than you...LOL. My range is off my back porch so I do not have the "going to the range hassle" excuse.

I have not shot a .22 LR all year. My air guns are a blast. Cheap to shoot , no hearing protection, no cases to clean up. And they are more accurate than most .22's to 50 yards.

My only "issue" is I have not found a good quality PCP pistol that is a repeater or semi-auto.

[Traffer]

It's not the price of 22lr that is going to be a problem. It's the inflation...In the early 80's a 50 count box of 22lr was $1. It went up 2.5x because of inflation.
I think that the RELATIVE price of 22lr will once again be back to 5 cents per (or less) But with inflation that figure may never be seen again. The production costs are the same as they were 3 years ago. The demand is perhaps 100x what it was 3 years ago. There is your price increase. When the hoarders get to the point where their garages will no longer hold the 10s of millions of rounds they think they need, they will stop buying and the price will come down again. SUPPLY and DEMAND that's all.

[uscra112]

Personally I'm not expecting it to fall below where it is now.

Factoid: Metals trade sites reporting in the last week or so that copper is in short supply, with no end in sight. Electric cars use 20x the amount of copper than gasoline cars do, for one thing. You need copper to make brass, so go figure.

[scattershot]

My guess is .10/round for MiniMags and the like, a bit more for premium ammo, a bit less for bulk.

[hoodat]

I'm not real optimistic about this mainly because of the inflation and copper demand mentioned above.

My plan it to suck it up, and dedicate some money to this purpose at whatever the price is. The only defense against inflation is to spend it NOW. After the pain of the purchase is over, I'll still have the 22 shells, and feel better about it. jd

[Ithaca Gunner]

I'm not real optimistic about this mainly because of the inflation and copper demand mentioned above.

My plan it to suck it up, and dedicate some money to this purpose at whatever the price is. The only defense against inflation is to spend it NOW. After the pain of the purchase is over, I'll still have the 22 shells, and feel better about it. jd

Your plan has truth to it, in a savings account at the bank your interest rate is about 3-4X LESS than the inflation rate, so you may as well put your money into ''precious'' metals.

[uscra112]

I once noticed (and this was several years ago) that the value of lead had risen more than gold on a percentage basis.

'Tis a well-known fact that in times of inflation it's best to hold commodities. Canned food, metals, (except gold!), toilet paper, guns and ammunition, und-und-und. The fact that people know this contributes to higher retail sales, and the frequency of buying contributes to what economists call "the velocity of money", which in turn contributes to inflation. Textbook example in my day was Weimar Germany.

I'm still working through .22 ammo that I bought during the first Clinton administration. I gloat.

[elmacgyver0]

If the people in power get their way you will never get anything for the prices you were used to.
It seems the majority of people like high prices or they would not make the voting decisions they make.

[BigAlofPa.]

Walmart had some CCI 22 mags for 24 and change the other day. The 125 count milk cartons. It was 21 and change before this latest mayhem.

[sparky45]

I'm more concerned about the price of Eggs and Bread right now. I have a stock of .22 LR that will last me until I pass.

[uscra112]

Primers can make meat if you can hunt, but the price of heating oil, gasoline, and especially nitrate fertilizers has me concerned, being in farm country.

[Traffer]

I'm hoping the prices of EVERYTHING SKYROCKETS.
The quicker the idiots who think liberal ideas are good see the failure the quicker we can get back to SANE politics.
MAGA

[uscra112]

You will get your wish, but there'll be a lot of suffering in between.

[sparky45]

Primers can make meat if you can hunt, but the price of heating oil, gasoline, and especially nitrate fertilizers has me concerned, being in farm country.

Fertilizer(s) in our small rural community have skyrocketed and won't come down until Oil production goes up. Gasoline for regular gas went up to $3.49 a gal today.

[uscra112]

Getting a bit off topic, but our regional Farm and Dairy weekly was saying that farmers won't plant as much corn, because it needs so much nitrogen.

Count on corn prices going way up, which will drive everything that uses corn oil, from peanut butter to popcorn.

Of course, we could quit turning so much of it into motor fuel.......

[Starsizer]

Yes, it will, but Jesus will come back before that happens.

That would be OK with me!
Starsizer

[dverna]

I'm hoping the prices of EVERYTHING SKYROCKETS.
The quicker the idiots who think liberal ideas are good see the failure the quicker we can get back to SANE politics.
MAGA

I agree....but some cannot connect the dots. I know two people who voted for Biden and are blaming the oil companies for fuel price increases

There are people who are wired wrong and nothing seems to change them.

[uscra112]

There are people who are wired wrong and nothing seems to change them.

Cult followers. Offer 'em Kool-Aid.

[FergusonTO35]

We are getting more reasonably priced ammo in stock around here, however it vanishes quickly leaving the expensive stuff sitting around. I got 500 Aguila Super Extra 40 grain for $30.00 the other day.

[Shawlerbrook]

Inflation in October hit a 30 year high. I think 10 cents/ round is probably the floor. The leftists’ are so busy spending trillions, they have taken their mind off of new gun and ammo regulations ( for the time being). I am more concerned with availability at this point rather than prices. Thank God I went into this mess with a pretty good strategic reserve.

[Red River Rick]

I picked up 3 bricks of SK Standard Plus .22 LR ammo for $70.00 Cdn per brick. I use this in my Izmash CM-2.

I couldn't pass up a deal like this. The seller has a few more cases, I'll probably go back and buy more.

RRR

291535

[tazman]

Went into a farm store that usually has ammo today. They had some slugs and a few boxes of Sellier & Bellot target grade 22lr.
I asked the manager about less expensive 22lr ammo. He said they got in a shipment of 450 Aguila Super Extra in 250 count boxes It took them 3 days to sell out at $20 per box. He said he didn't have any idea when he would be getting more in.

[uscra112]

Wouldn't surprise me if this manufactured transportation crisis hurts prices and availability. Ammo is too easy to relegate to lower priority, and I'm reading that truck freight rates are headed for the moon. Severe shortages of drivers, and of course fuel prices having doubled, with high probability of doubling again.

[BigAlofPa.]

Walmart had the Federal match 325 count last night for 21 and change. I think it was 17 and change before. The CCI maximags for the 125 count carton. Went up about 5 bucks. I did get one while i was there.

[Baltimoreed]

The last .22s that I bought [recently] was cci standard velocity for 49.00 per brick [2] with free shipping. My Winchester M52 pre-A loves it.

[uscra112]

Have we seen the last of those neat plastic boxes that CCI used to sell MiniMags (and I assume MaxiMags) in? A cost saving I'm sure, but I liked them a lot. Must save all that I have left.

[bobthenailer]

Local wall mart has had federal automatch 325 rounds for $21.14 for the past 5 saturdays. 2 box limit.

[GhostHawk]

Recently found CCI Mini Mags copper plated HP's at 11 cents ea with reasonable shipping. Bought 900 rounds. Probably don't need them but seemed like a reasonable price and no way of knowing when or if they will drop much below that.

900 rounds is a lot of rabbits and squirrels.

[Texas by God]

$39.95 for for a "traditional 500 round brick" of Remington Thunderbolts at Academy today. $25 for 350 round box of Aguila high speed and $10/50 for Norma Tac .22LR.
I left them there.

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[Gussy]

It boarders on insulting to send me add that says big ammo sale?!!

Rem junk 22 for $60+ bulk box

[John Boy]

The bottom line price for 22LR ammunition is an average of 2cents a round … if you reload. It takes less than 20 minutes to reload a box of 50 …

[tazman]

It has now been nearly 20 months since the pandemic began and much longer since the gun buying surge began and both continue to this day.
Prices go up over time in any case and not just due to panic and inflation. Lots of things contribute to rising prices.
That is why I believe the prices will never go back to pre-pandemic prices. It just isn't going to happen.
I can't say what the prices will end up being. I am certain it will be higher than it was.
If you can find a good deal on ammo, buy it.

[Brassmonkey]

The last .22 I bought probably april this year was under 3$ a 50rd box of Aguilia at dicks 3 box limit. Still see it priced stupid or not available at gun shows and elsewhere.

[rockrat]

Local farm and ranch store had CCI Std velocity ammo. After tax it was just under 9 cents a round.

[jimlj]

The local Murdoch's has
Norma Tac 22 $8 for 50
CCI standard $4 for 50
CCI MiniMag $10 for 100
It seems to stay on the shelf now. I think supply is catching up with demand.

[Bigslug]

I just got Bass Pro's Christmas flyer in the mail yesterday.

Aguila plated 40 grain solids or 38 grain HP for $14.99 / 250 ($0.06 a round). It says "Limit 2 per customer". Oddly, it does NOT say "Free crack pipe with every purchase". I guess they assume you already have one to pay that.

.22 Hornet is starting to look GOOOOOD.

[dverna]

I just got Bass Pro's Christmas flyer in the mail yesterday.

Aguila plated 40 grain solids or 38 grain HP for $14.99 / 250 ($0.06 a round). It says "Limit 2 per customer". Oddly, it does NOT say "Free crack pipe with every purchase". I guess they assume you already have one to pay that.

.22 Hornet is starting to look GOOOOOD.

I see it differently. $.06/rd is not terrible and about half of what it was a few months ago if someone could find it. So supply is up and prices are down.

Almost all my .22's are in the $.03-.05 range and I doubt we will ever see below $.04 again.

[smkummer]

Midwest gun works has cci standard velocity at 1.99 per 50 right now. .04 ea.

[Winger Ed.]

I had to get something from Walmart the other day and went through the sporting goods section.

The had 3 boxes of Winchester Super X .22LR.
They were only $40. for a box of 300.

The kid working the counter saw me looking at them and asked, "Can I help you".
I told him, "No thanks, I'm good".

[Minerat]

Norma tac 22 Murdoch's 70$/500 today Denver area

[Jedman]

Midwest gun works has cci standard velocity at 1.99 per 50 right now. .04 ea.

I looked at their rimfire ammo and there was nothing at twice the price you have listed here.

Jedman

[1hole]

Disclaimer alert.... I grew up in the days of 50 cent boxes of ammo....Anyone care to guess on prices??

Well, no. I don't know where it might stop and I won't guess. My first .22 rf ammo was around 25 cents a box. I was a little kid then and sometimes worked as a part-time farm hand at 10 cents per hour so a box of that "cheap" .22 ammo from the local Western Auto hardware store was what it was, and it really wasn't very cheep. Then I began to realize that everything went up from time to time and it hasn't stopped yet.

I'm not a kid anymore. And I've about given up expecting the prices of anything to stabilize for long.

[downzero]

I think you'll see it back at 5 cents a round after/during the next recession.

[uscra112]

I'm too lazy to do it, but if someone were to calculate the prices of ammo in grams of gold for the years from, say, 1960 to today....

[tarbe]

I looked at their rimfire ammo and there was nothing at twice the price you have listed here.

Jedman

Sold out at $5.99/50.

[tarbe]

Real glad I bought 30k rounds back when it was under 3 cents per round.

Then I found RWS Rifle match for 10 cents per round a few months back (usually double that) and bought about 20k of that. My Cooper can take advantage of the accuracy edge.

I hope ammo will come back down, but I am not betting on it.

[uscra112]

Only mildly off topic: I received an email newsletter today from Duck Creek, one of my favorite sources of centerfire brass. Denny writes that Remington and Winchester are both telling him that if-and-when any of the common but out-of-stock cases reappear, prices will be 25% higher. He also said the Norma has told him that they will cease selling brass in bulk, will only sell prepackaged in boxes at ~45% higher prices per piece.

I still see .22 ammo settling at the same % increases or higher. Maybe much higher if the current economic and fiscal insanity in Washington continues.

[Hodagtrapper]

I believe 7 cents a round average for all flavors of .22 ammunition is where we may end up. Fingers crossed, though.

Chris

[G W Wade]

Noticing Norma Tac was $100 per brick Today saw it for $80. And Fleet Farm had a sale 2 weeks ago $5.99 per box More of other brands are showing up also GW

[rockrat]

Bought some Aquila from Cabelas for 6 cents a round(+ tax) a few weeks ago

[Bill*B]

Local range is asking $10 a box! Online prices are around $6 when you add shipping. The "New Normal"?

[GhostHawk]

I just did a quick trawl on Gunbot. Bulk ammo listed lots of .22lr ammo for 6 cents a round. But those are all sold out.

What was in stock was all in the 12 to 16 cents per round range.

I think it will likely never drop below a dime ea for any measurable length of time. There is simply too much demand.
You may see a sale for a day or two. But once those are sold, price goes back up.

[dverna]

A few years ago, the same hand wringing was going on. I sold half my inventory in one day at a gun show. About a year later, bought more at $20/brick. I am not worried but I have planned and reacted.

There is no manufacturing reason for the price to be at $3/box. I may sell off most of my inventory now that I have an alternative.

[wv109323]

The price is demand driven- short supply. Once demand drops the prices will return to normal plus the inflation of raw materials and labor.

[GrayTech]

Doesn't matter that the price drops back to whatever it was if the value of a dollar is reduced to ½, ⅓, or even a ¼ of what it was. Our governments are spending us into bancruptcy, and dismantling any possibility of recovery from it, faster than most people realize.

[John Boy]

The manufactures and distributors can raise the price to a buck a round …. And within 20 minutes I can reload 50 smokeless or black powder 22 Long or 22LR rounds under a nickel as long as primed empty cases are available

[uscra112]

Gotta figure in amortization on your capital investments there, John.

[tarbe]

Doesn't matter that the price drops back to whatever it was if the value of a dollar is reduced to ½, ⅓, or even a ¼ of what it was. Our governments are spending us into bancruptcy, and dismantling any possibility of recovery from it, faster than most people realize.

Yup. This is truth!

[dverna]

The manufactures and distributors can raise the price to a buck a round …. And within 20 minutes I can reload 50 smokeless or black powder 22 Long or 22LR rounds under a nickel as long as primed empty cases are available

When I looked into it, the cost of the stuff you recommended was over $200. And there was only one source for primed .22 cases. I just checked and cases are not available. If I screwed up the search, let us know where we can purchase them.

I came very close to buying 10k cases after reading one of your posts. After looking at the cost and time required to cast and reload I went down a different path. But loading may still be viable for some.

[uscra112]

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2021/12/13/review-cutting-edge-bullets-22-lr-reloading-kit

[dverna]

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2021/12/13/review-cutting-edge-bullets-22-lr-reloading-kit

Thanks for posting that link. At $70/200 plus $122 for the dies that is not cheap. $.35/shot...may as well buy primers at $150/1000 and reload .223's.

I will be doing 95% of my plinking with PCP's. I have stocked up with 20k pellets and can shoot for less than $20/1000. Groups with rifles are under 1" at 50 yards with cheapo pellets. I plan to sell most of the .22LR ammunition inventory and most of my .22 rifles and pistols. Even if .22's drop to $25/brick ($50/1000) plinking with pellets works better for me. No cases to pick up (I shoot off my back porch so cannot leave cases laying around), and no hearing protection required. Not a good solution for most people but works for me.

[uscra112]

More of academic interest than anything. I know there are guys loading .22LR with black powder, too, and breech-seating cast bullets. Not my cuppa tea, but it's interesting to read about.

[1eyedjack]

Local Bass Pro HAD CCI small rifle primers for $65 a brick - I bought one that I didn't "need" 3 weeks later road trip to Springfield to meet some friends checked out the original Bass Pro shop lo & behold !! They had CCI SRP on the shelf also!.....$129.99 a brick ! 3 pallets Federal bulk .223 $699.99 per 1000 with NO LIMIT !!! Had what looked like a decent supply of ammo but didn't see a single lb of powder & several guns in stock but prices weren't what I consider decent.

[Bill*B]

It is my fear that the price of our hobby is going to very significantly escalate.

[uscra112]

Yup. Prices will rise, but wages/salaries/pensions will lag behind.

Finance 101 - During deflation, hold cash, during inflation, hold stuff. Like .22 ammo, brass and lead, primers and powder.

[Texas by God]

I bought 500 Aguila .22LR for $35 today. That's about $3.50 per 50. They also had Norma .22LR for $10 per 50 and I seriously doubt that it's better than the Aguila.

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[GregLaROCHE]

Nobody can say what is going to happen. The only thing for sure is that prices will never be as low as they were.

[Iowa Fox]

Nobody can say what is going to happen. The only thing for sure is that prices will never be as low as they were.

Truer words never spoken. Going to apply to food, clothing, taxes, everyday living expenses.

[rintinglen]

I look for 7-8¢ a round for bulk 22's, 18-25¢ for premium ammo.

inflation may boost these figures by another penny or two if Brandon keeps up the bad work.

[rbuck351]

My local Walmart has had Federal 325 packs in stock for $21.16 @ for the last couple of months. That figures to about 6.5 cents per round or about $32.50 per brick.

[tazman]

Somewhere in my basement is an ammo can with a couple of bricks of 22lr ammo I purchased back in the day. One them still has a sticker on it.
$8 a brick.
No idea how long that has been.

[Jedman]

Somewhere in my basement is an ammo can with a couple of bricks of 22lr ammo I purchased back in the day. One them still has a sticker on it.
$8 a brick.
No idea how long that has been.

I remember paying about $ 8.00 a brick in the mid 1970’s. That was for, Wildcats, Thunderbolts, plain lead bullet ammo.

Jedman

[tazman]

I remember paying about $ 8.00 a brick in the mid 1970’s. That was for, Wildcats, Thunderbolts, plain lead bullet ammo.

Jedman

These would have been Wildcats or the Federal equivalent(lightning?)

[trails4u]

Yup. Prices will rise, but wages/salaries/pensions will lag behind.

Finance 101 - During deflation, hold cash, during inflation, hold stuff. Like .22 ammo, brass and lead, primers and powder.

This is VERY smart.... I'm not buying anything right now, unless I find it at pre-crazy prices. Also not selling ANYTHING right now!!

[farmbif]

well just before everything went crazy a case of 5000 armscor 36 gr copper plated hollow points we've very easy to be had for $139.
probably when things get back to normal if your wanting to be able to shoot 22's might want to take all this madness as a lesson learned and buy a case or 2 of your favorite brand. times like we are in now make me think real hard about selling just about everything and buying a new airplane.

[kayala]

Stopped at Walmart this weekend got couple boxes of Federal AutoMatch $21 for 325rds box - pretty much pre-craziness days price.

[Handloader109]

Brownells has SK std 500 rounds for only $89.99 a box. wow, 18 cents a round for 22s.

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[Outer Rondacker]

Stopped at Walmart this weekend got couple boxes of Federal AutoMatch $21 for 325rds box - pretty much pre-craziness days price.

I too saw this price and am guilty of taking three.

[jimlj]

Stopped at Walmart this weekend got couple boxes of Federal AutoMatch $21 for 325rds box - pretty much pre-craziness days price.

That's about double pre craziness price, but with Brandonflation factored in it's not too bad. I've been guilty of paying the $21 price. I thought I had enough 22lr to last me for years till my grandson came to visit. Gotta replenish the stash.

[GhostHawk]

Ammoseek says S&B, Winchester, CCI all in the 8.4 to 8.5 cents per round range.

Seems like it could be settling into that area.
Anything found below that price would seem to me to be a reasonable price and would get bought, by me if possible.

[ulav8r]

For the last three weeks local Walmart only had Winchester yellow box for $41+, 325 or330 count, too expensive for me to look at the count again.

[GhostHawk]

My calculator says that is 12.5 cents ea. And yes I agree, tis a bit rich for my taste also.

[FergusonTO35]

As far as the cheapo Remington/Winchester/Federal 36 grain HP rounds go, I won't pay any more than previous administration prices for them because that is the absolute most they are worth to me. If I'm going to pay the same or more for .22's as I would on my own centerfire reloads, they better be quality 40 grain rounds.

[Beagle333]

For the last three weeks local Walmart only had Winchester yellow box for $41+, 325 or330 count, too expensive for me to look at the count again.

Same here for months now. If you NEED it, they have some, so I guess that's good. But you gotta really want it.

[Outer Rondacker]

Did it again. Three boxes of federal match 22. bulk 325 pack for 69 bucks. At the moment its cheaper than primers. With pork at over 6 dollars a pound and chicken bringing up 4.86 a pound think I am going to have to start feeding myself more.

[dverna]

Did it again. Three boxes of federal match 22. bulk 325 pack for 69 bucks. At the moment its cheaper than primers. With pork at over 6 dollars a pound and chicken bringing up 4.86 a pound think I am going to have to start feeding myself more.

That is a decent price on .22's.

Boy you are getting hosed on meat!! Just last week there was a sale locally. Chicken leg quarters were $4.99 for a 10 lb bag. Pork chops at $.99/lb. Pork loin at $1.59/lb. Our freezer is stuffed with cheap meat.

[Rodfac]

As of yesterday, Cabelas & Walmart here in Louisville, KY had Winchester yellow box Super-X Power Point 40 gr HP's for $40 for the 300 count box. That's over 13 cents a shot...

I'm hoping the price will come down as the mid-term Federal elections approach, but who knows. The cost of ammunition is driving a lot of new shooters away. A sad state of affairs IMHO.

Best regards, Rod

[FergusonTO35]

That's actually a good price these days for Power Points. Midway is still $15.00/100 plus shipping.

[Jsm180]

Just picked up 3 boxes 325 rnd Federal Auto Match for $21.16 ea.

[Rodfac]

JSM,
I've yet to find one of my .22's that didn't perk with Federal Auto-Match: Ruger Standard and NM Single Six, Colt Woodsman Match Tgt, Colt New Frontier, Smith M-18, 63 & 41, and a Colt Diamondback. All do equally well with standard velocity CCI's and Mini-Mags, but Fed Auto-Match is usually a lot cheaper hereabouts. It also cycles Ciener & Advantage Arms upper units for my 1911's. Best Regards, Rod

[BadgerShooter]

My concern is what is the quality of the ammo we are getting for those prices. I've been in manufacturing long enough to know that when demand is high, standards can slip. I think the Eley, Lapua, SK quality probably won't suffer much, but I'm not willing to drop big bucks on most American 22 right now. My major use for rimfire is NRA/ISU 50 yd 3-Position. Good match ammo prices really haven't increased that much in relation to blasting ammo prices.

[GhostHawk]

I have 2 simple rules for buying .22lr ammo.

A Don't buy Remington anything ever. (and I was a Remington fanboi)

B Stick with CCI or Federal Champion Auto Match, or if both of those unavailable, go with Armscor from the Phillipene's. Rock Island Armory/Armscor has been good to me.

[FergusonTO35]

Thunderjams actually shoot well in my non-autoloader rifles. Handguns, fuhgeddabouit.

[Outer Rondacker]

My concern is what is the quality of the ammo we are getting for those prices. I've been in manufacturing long enough to know that when demand is high, standards can slip. I think the Eley, Lapua, SK quality probably won't suffer much, but I'm not willing to drop big bucks on most American 22 right now. My major use for rimfire is NRA/ISU 50 yd 3-Position. Good match ammo prices really haven't increased that much in relation to blasting ammo prices.

Just after chinaflu hit I grabbed a bunch of 555 Winchester boxes. I had projectiles without brass, brass without projectiles in other boxes. I even counted them and most where short. The brass was spotted and tarnished. Looked for a person to call and nothing. I think I should of called vista outdoors but honestly just put it in the do not buy ever spot alone with Remington 22s.

[BadgerShooter]

From my experience, CCI Standard and Green Tag are at the bottom end of acceptable for practice ammo. I haven't shot any Winchester that is competition accurate since the old gold box super-X from the '70's. Federal quality varies all over the map. The old Remington Match from the '70's was ok for practice as was the Winchester T-22. I used to shoot lots of Wolf Match Target when it was loaded by SK/Lapua. I have not tried it since it is being loaded by Eley. I got several cases of Eley Sport the last time I was at Camp Perry for Smallbore (08 I think). It was probably the cheapest acceptable practice ammo I have every used. It was loaded in Mexico but it shot pretty well. Good match ammo has always been rediculously (sp) expensive and it still is but at least the accuracy and consistency is there. For plinking, it's hard to beat CCI mini-mags and even CCI Blaser isn't bad at all. I bought lots when it was dirt cheap. The last cases I bought were $155 I think and that was up some.

[dverna]

My concern is what is the quality of the ammo we are getting for those prices. I've been in manufacturing long enough to know that when demand is high, standards can slip. I think the Eley, Lapua, SK quality probably won't suffer much, but I'm not willing to drop big bucks on most American 22 right now. My major use for rimfire is NRA/ISU 50 yd 3-Position. Good match ammo prices really haven't increased that much in relation to blasting ammo prices.

My experience is that even before supply got short, the quality of .22's had deteriorated significantly. It was "acceptable" to be paying $2/box for "crap" to plink with, but I am not paying $4/box for the same, or worse, crap. Maybe I am too critical, but I expect 1" groups at 50 yards from a decent bolt gun, and less than a handful of FTF's from a brick of .22's. If I have to pay $6-8 a box to get that, I have better options that .22 LR's.

[Gussy]

I'm seeing prices dropping on some rimfire shells (WRM and 17hmr).

Now I'm seeing a steady supply of junk plinker 22s. But, at about 1\3 of what they were a few months ago. Still way to high. It is still a sign that the supply chain is exceeding the purchases by the basement stashers. It will be coming down and better ammo will be available whenever you want it in the next 6 months. Barring another act of stupidity by an AH.

[Randy Bohannon]

Local store has a good pile of the Winchester .22LR -36 gr copper plated HP 500 count for $40.00 OTD. I picked up a box to see how they do in my CZ rifles.

[Outer Rondacker]

Local store has a good pile of the Winchester .22LR -36 gr copper plated HP 500 count for $40.00 OTD. I picked up a box to see how they do in my CZ rifles.

mine hates them. hope you have better luck.

[Randy Bohannon]

mine hates them. hope you have better luck.

Grandkids can bang them away in their Cricket rifles should they prove inadequate for the CZ rifles.

[farmbif]

dont know where the price will end up but if federal in 300/bx at Walmart are currently about $20 and online box of 50 is about $8 that's about where we will be.
ive got about all the common brands over the years and the worst, absolute worst in my experience are the norma tac22's they won't cycle an automatic and the lube on them makes one big sticky mess of everything it touches. ive had better luck over the years with Remington Goldens than with some winchester pistol primers I got in the mid 90's. but it struck me like a brick over the head back when Clinton started banning stuff. that if I want my guns to be more than fancy door stops I better have ample ammo to shoot in them.
so even if primers end up at $75/1000 and 22's at $20/300 for bulk stuff. long as its available that's what matters most.
I dont think we will ever again see $1/gal gas or $0.03 primers or 22's
maybe and hopefully I'm wrong and case of 5000 armscor 22's will once again be $129
by the way, if this is your first trip to the rodeo, if you want to be shooting in the future stock up when you can

[Gussy]

The mooch.....

Got any buddies that come over looking for ammo? Do I look like Walmart??

Bought a case of CCI std velocity a couple years back and ask my buddy if he wanted to split the case. He took 3 bricks. He then found out how well they shot. Next year he came back wanting a couple more. Last spring back wanting a some more and some for his son and grandson! Well, I did sell him some..... Some Blazers! I'm expecting he'll be back in another month or two when we are getting ready for squirrel shooting. He's darned lucky he's a good buddy, not many people can still buy bricks for under $20!!!

[FergusonTO35]

For the foreseeable future I'm going to be practicing with .22's. They are usually available, even if they aren't the exact kind I want at prices higher than what I would prefer. I haven't been able to buy powder or primers of any sort for the last 6 months from the usual places I shop. Makes more sense to use .22's for just ventilating paper, the fundamentals are the same anyway.

[sniper]

I surely don't know...what I DO know, is after counting most of my storge, I have somewhere north of 5.000 rounds put by, and that will last me till the dust has settled...somewhat. Orrr...at 83, time will take its toll.:mrgreen:

[BadgerShooter]

5000 rounds? Thats almost out!

[FergusonTO35]

I've decided I'm getting into air rifles. High end pellets are cheaper than the worst .22 LR and get recycled into boolits. Gonna make a little range in the basement.:idea:

[dverna]

I've decided I'm getting into air rifles. High end pellets are cheaper than the worst .22 LR and get recycled into boolits. Gonna make a little range in the basement.:idea:

I made the move last year. No regrets. Sub 1” groups at 50 yards with a cost of less than $15/1000 shots.

[BadgerShooter]

I've been shooting ISU 10 meter Air Rifle for more decades than I want to acknowledge. It is probably the best program for building excellent offhand fundamentals you can do. Your barrel time is so long compared to rimfire or centerfire that your followthrough and trigger control have to be perfect. Its a humbling sport.

[rbuck351]

I picked up a Benjamin Discovery in 22 recently and it actually has very acceptable accuracy. With certain cheap pellets (about $15 per thousand) it will shoot under 1" at 50 yds. It shoots a bit better with expensive pellets ( about $40 per thousand ) but not enough better to buy the high end pellets.

I also have enough 22lr to shoot the rest of my days and still pass on ammo to my grand kids so it doesn't matter to much to me where the price settles out.

[Outer Rondacker]

I picked up a Benjamin Discovery in 22 recently and it actually has very acceptable accuracy. With certain cheap pellets (about $15 per thousand) it will shoot under 1" at 50 yds. It shoots a bit better with expensive pellets ( about $40 per thousand ) but not enough better to buy the high end pellets.

I also have enough 22lr to shoot the rest of my days and still pass on ammo to my grand kids so it doesn't matter to much to me where the price settles out.
Pick up a muzzle brake from one of the guys. I have a mikes TKO and it is night and day. Also you can speed up the pellet a bit and those groups will get better. Simple mods. Mine loves crossman 14.3 hps I have taken pests out to 121 yards.

[dverna]

Pick up a muzzle brake from one of the guys. I have a mikes TKO and it is night and day. Also you can speed up the pellet a bit and those groups will get better. Simple mods. Mine loves crossman 14.3 hps I have taken pests out to 121 yards.

I shot 45 five shot groups at 50 yards and averaged .77" with those "crappy" Crosmans. I could not believe how well they performed for $6.24/tin. The first five shot group was .77" and I thought it was a fluke. Smallest group was .44" and largest 1.30".

BTW, ran a short trial with a very light coating of Ballistol on the pellets. 10 groups averaged .66". Puts those pellets in the same class as the JSB's Exacts and Air Arms out of my gun. I bought 14k of those "crappy" Crosman pellets for just under $175 on Amazon.

Have not shot critters with them yet so cannot report how effective they are but lots of cheap and fun trigger time ahead.

Screw .22 LR's for $40/brick. 14k rounds of LR at a cost of $1120 vs $220 for pellets and air. Even if LRs get to $25/ brick I will save almost $500.

[Gussy]

I'm not sure what you use to charge your rifles. I've never used that type. Mine is a break barrel.

For what it's worth, I bought a dual guage regulator and got a nitrogen tank for under $200. I needed it to charge the Fox shocks on my truck and was thinking it would work for an air rifle.

[wv109323]

In a capitalist society, the price will settle on cost of raw materials plus distribution plus profit. I don't think there is a sharp increase in raw materials or transportation. Profit is determined by demand. The other factor that is unknown is the grouping of several manufacturers under the same ownership. I think Federal, CCI, Winchester and Remington are owned by the same company. Thus they may influence price.
But I think prices will be within 10% of pre-panic prices. Much more then that and other new manufacturers may get into production of rimfire ammo.

[hk940]

I don't think the price is coming down any soon, this last week i was on an auction site and a brick of 550 had a bid of $101.00! and that was not one bid. Many other lots of .22 had similar bids.

[rbuck351]

My discovery shoots those crappy Crosman domed premier pellets a bit better than the HPs but will put either a bit under an inch at 50yds. It really likes the Benjamin domed but I haven't found any more of those yet. I did put a TKO brake on mine and it did make a lot of difference. I just ordered a second barrel/air tube band for the front of the barrel to see if that improves accuracy.

Do you shoot the ballistol coated pellets wet or dry them first?

wv: you are correct about price settling on cost of materials, transportation and profit but you have missed one of the main driving forces now. That is inflation. With an additional 8 trillion in deficit spending you can expect that devaluing of the dollar to push the prices of doing business up a matching % of the drop in the value of the dollar. That 8 trillion is about a 30% drop in the value of the dollar. Just look at the cost of everything lately.

[uscra112]

I don't think the price is coming down any soon, this last week i was on an auction site and a brick of 550 had a bid of $101.00! and that was not one bid. Many other lots of .22 had similar bids.

Old time auctioneers would cry: "The more you pay, the more it's worth!"

[dverna]

My discovery shoots those crappy Crosman domed premier pellets a bit better than the HPs but will put either a bit under an inch at 50yds. It really likes the Benjamin domed but I haven't found any more of those yet. I did put a TKO brake on mine and it did make a lot of difference. I just ordered a second barrel/air tube band for the front of the barrel to see if that improves accuracy.

Do you shoot the ballistol coated pellets wet or dry them first?

wv: you are correct about price settling on cost of materials, transportation and profit but you have missed one of the main driving forces now. That is inflation. With an additional 8 trillion in deficit spending you can expect that devaluing of the dollar to push the prices of doing business up a matching % of the drop in the value of the dollar. That 8 trillion is about a 30% drop in the value of the dollar. Just look at the cost of everything lately.

I shot them wet.

[blue32]

I'm a first time 22 buyer only because I can't replace the center fire I load so 8-10 cents for LR isn't a problem for me though I'd rather not pay .15 cents for shorts. I've got my first 22 on the way, a Henry pump.

[Rodfac]

No trouble finding .22 LR or Mag here at a cpl of LGS's...but I've yet to see it for sale (.22 LR that is), for less than a dime a shot. Cabelas has Winchester yellow box (300 count) for $40...that's 13.3 cents a piece...a small gunshop up on the Ohio River has been selling Maxi-Mag .22 Magnums for $18/50 count (36 cents a piece). Pretty rich for my blood but we do use the Magnums in my New Frontier Colt and #2 son's Ruger Single Six...skunks at this time of year, along with raccoons and possums that have a hankering for the horse feed bins and the chicken coop. YMMv, Rod

[high standard 40]

Two of the local Walmarts here have Federal AutoMatch, box of 325 pieces, for $20 out the door. That's a little more than 6 cents a shot. They also had Winchester at nearly twice that much per round.

[ulav8r]

Local Walmart has the Winchester yellow box at $40. Each time I check they have more than the time before.

[boommer]

Walmart here 1400 bucket of bullets 80 bucks and 325 auto match 21 $ in stock

[GhostHawk]

Been watching Ammoseek for the last couple of weeks.

Appears to me it is settling into mostly 8 to 12 cents per round with a few specials and lower than that. Like Walmart selling the Federal auto Match 325 rounds for 20$.

[dverna]

Lots of reports of Federal Auto Match in the $22 range. I do not need any, but if I did, that is not a terrible price. Heck I paid $18 at the LGS before the madness started.

Looks like things are improving.

[Outer Rondacker]

Just grabbed two more boxes.

[triggerhappy243]

i HAVE NOT SHOT ANY OF MY 22LR'S. IN YEARS. I BOUGHT A 17 HMR AND USED IT FOR PRAIRIE DOGS. WAS PAYING $8.31 PR BOX OF 50 IN BULK. NOW THEY ARE $19.00 PER BOX. IF THE PRICE DOES NOT COME BACK TO NORMAL, I WILL LIKELY SELL THE RIFLE AND BE DONE WITH IT.

[uscra112]

Hmmm....this superannuated economist asks: Will the sale price of the rifle have increased due to inflation, or decreased because ammunition is so expensive?

[triggerhappy243]

Hmmm....this superannuated economist asks: Will the sale price of the rifle have increased due to inflation, or decreased because ammunition is so expensive?

I don't personally care. people will still pay top dollar for it because there are none available. I can do without this one. still have two-22 LR rifles. And I can still load 223 rem. cheaper than the cost of 17 HMR ammo.

[Lloyd Smale]

I don't personally care. people will still pay top dollar for it because there are none available. I can do without this one. still have two-22 LR rifles. And I can still load 223 rem. cheaper than the cost of 17 HMR ammo.

maybe you can but not with primers STARTING at a 1000 bucks a thousand. Just the primers are the same as what 22 shells would cost. now you may be like me and are sitting on a stash you bought cheaper but the way i look at it is every primer i use eventually has to be replaced. Then add bullets, powder and brass. now before this crap hit i could load 9mm with cast bullets cheaper but cant even do that today. As long as you can get a brick of 22s for 50 bucks 22 will still be cheaper to shoot. Add to that i dont have to pick up brass or put the time into loading it. I honesly got away from 22s for many years. But i find myself shooting them alot today. Just last week the wife picked me up bricks of 525 rem golden bullet hps for 40 bucks at walmart and got feds for 25 for 325 a week before. Honesly i doubt your going to see it come down lower then that. I think of it like this 25 bucks for 325 isnt bad when the two of us stop and mcdonalds and have problems eating lunch for 25 bucks.

[ddeck22]

There might be a small typo in the above...at $100 per 1000 for primers is what I see as a medium for primers at the moment.

[FergusonTO35]

Primers have been seen only on the side of milk cartons around here for many months now. I shudder to think how much they are going to cost when I finally do see them. My local shop managed to find a few trays of shotgun 209's for a customer who needed them really bad and was willing to pay hazmat and shipping just for them. The dealer cost per tray was $10.00, and add hazmat and shipping on top of that. I'm not going to do any load development for the foreseeable future, just stick with proven loads. I have no idea when I'll be able to replace the components.

[BadgerShooter]

Just saw SK Match Extra for $79/brick and Lapua Center-X for $150/brick at a large gunshop near here. They had cases of them. That isn't hugely more that when I was buying cases of them 15 years ago at Camp Perry. Both shoot excellently in my rifles for 50 M and 100 yard competition. The Center-X is just slightly better for that extra bit of mental confidence for a big match.

The first time I was at Camp Perry for 3-P, I had just walked through commercial row and realized there were all sorts of gadgets I needed to shoot better. I was shooting poorly and was lamenting to myself that I needed a number of these gadgets. I looked at the young man shooting next to me with a cloth coat, an H&R M12 from the CMP and Wolf Target ammo and he was whupping my behind.
If I wanted better results, I had to take my own keister in my hands and SHOOT better. It was a great lesson that there is no substitute for excellent fundamentals. I had great equipment, it was up to me to shoot up to its capabilities.

[HawkEyeEarl]

I saw a few 325 round boxes of Federal Automatch at Walmart yesterday for 20.99 I believe. I bought 2 of these.

There were 10 boxes of 50 round of cci standard velocity for 4.99 a box. I bought 2 of these.

There were a few 300 round boxes of Winchester super x 100th anniversary for about $40.
And 1 box of 525 of Remington for about $40.

I had not seen 22 ammo for about 2 years here. Until yesterday people had always bought it up the morning it came in and were reselling it. I guess those folks cannot resell it easily anymore. Maybe the drought is over in their mind.

At a gun show recently I saw 22 magnum 50 round boxes on tables for $22 on up at various tables to $75 dollars a box. I bought the last 2 boxes of Remington at $22 at that one table after checking price at every table in the show. On most tables a box of 50 was in the twenty something range. The biggest stack of boxes was at the table for $75 each for a box of 50. He may still have those.

[FergusonTO35]

I've been using a brick of Norma Tac 22 for practice lately, I bought it awhile back for a reasonable price. It is accurate enough but nothing special and chokes all my autoloaders. It costs $8.99/50 nowadays and I won't be buying any more of it.

[BadgerShooter]

I had similar experiences with Winchester M22

[farmbif]

that norma tac 22 is the absolute worst stuff I ever did use. the lube has low melting point and gunks up everything, gets all over your fingers and hands, and it won't cycle anything semi auto ive ever put it in. or maybe I just got a couple bricks of lemons. ive heard a lot of bad about the m22 stuff but I got a double box of 1000 a couple years ago and tried a dozen or so from each box and they worked as good as the 555 boxes anyway. I really like dyna-points and 555's work great for me, first time I ever saw super x in yellow box of 300 was yesterday at Walmart . makes me wonder if all this winchester 22 ammo comes out of the same plant with different boxes.

22mag --- $18 maxi mags, that's definitely not double of what it was before everything went crazy. whereas 22lr ammo is now double or more than what it was. I think I was paying like $12-$14 for name brand stuff besides the hornady 30 gr. and $9.99 for the armscor stuff.

makes me wonder whatever happened to 17 wsm, that stuff was everywhere for cheap during last shortage, nobody seemed to have a gun chambered for it.

[Rodfac]

I wondered into Walmart here in La Grange KY yesterday and they actually had Federal .22 LR Auto-Match 325 count boxes for $21. I got two and wished I could have bought more. That's 6-1/2 cents a piece...not too bad...
Hope you all are having some luck finding ammunition for the kids in your life...I'm doing OK so far...but worried about the new threat on the horizon...Putin's invaded three countries in the last 12 years....maybe the clowns in the State Dept. & White House are starting to pick up on the trend.....Rod

[John Boy]

With primed empty brass and my cast 40gr bullets, I’m reloading at a cost of $0.03 a round and can do 50 reload under 20 minutes … nd my costs r it going to go up…
Inventory on hand:
2000 cast bullets
4800 primed empty brass
1 lb of either black or smokeless powders
50 round boxed reloads … 100, 50 boxes of each of smokeless and black powder

[Outer Rondacker]

With primed empty brass and my cast 40gr bullets, I’m reloading at a cost of $0.03 a round and can do 50 reload under 20 minutes … nd my costs r it going to go up…
Inventory on hand:
2000 cast bullets
4800 primed empty brass
1 lb of either black or smokeless powders
50 round boxed reloads … 100, 50 boxes of each of smokeless and black powder

So what do you plan on shooting next month?

[farmbif]

case of 5000 mini mags found in stock on ammoseek $649 plus FAST but not FREE shipping,
I'm guessing with the price of copper 3x what it was just month or so ago we will never again see cases of 5000 armscor 36 gr 22lr ever again at $139 with free shipping