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soldierbilly1
09-28-2021, 01:35 PM
guys:
I know this has been asked before, I apologize in advance.

can I use LLA on Lyman grease groove boolits. 38 special Lyman 158 358477 (?)

My lubrasizer is pooped out!

heavy coat? possible?
TIA
billy boy

Walks
09-28-2021, 02:01 PM
Yes,
I've done it and couldn't tell the difference. Size the bullets first.

GregLaROCHE
09-28-2021, 02:18 PM
You can give them a second coat the next day if you want.

Beagle333
09-28-2021, 02:42 PM
Always light coats. One, maybe two if you're pushing them.

quilbilly
09-28-2021, 02:59 PM
You can give them a second coat the next day if you want.. That is what I do with most of my boolits from any mold. You don't really need to fillet the grooves with LLA is what I have found.

Castaway
09-28-2021, 05:46 PM
Walks, when you said you couldn’t tell the difference, what did you mean? Was using it like no lube at all or that using it was comparable to lubing conventionally?

gwpercle
09-28-2021, 06:27 PM
Two light coats if tumble lubing or you can hold the nose of the boolit and dip them , base first , up to first driving band , wipe off base and stand upright to dry , I call it dip lubing .
Gary

Hick
09-28-2021, 09:13 PM
I just tumble them in LLA then stand them on a piece of waxed paper to dry. One coat-- 38 Special, 357 Magnum Revolver, and even 357 Magnum at 1500 fps in my Henry rifle (plain base for the revolvers, gas check for the Henry). Never had any leading.

megasupermagnum
09-28-2021, 09:22 PM
Yes, it works on any bullet. Light coats. I usually do two coats. I coat-size-coat. Sometimes I do a third. You should barely be able to tell each coat is there, and the reason is that it dries and hardens the best this way. You often hear people complain about Alox being goopy, or messing up sizing dies, etc. If you apply it thin, and it dries, Alox is practically a no-bake coating that is not sticky at all. You can rub it off with a rag it you try hard enough, but it should not feel like a bullet coated in Carmel.

mr surveyor
09-28-2021, 09:28 PM
I don't cast my own, but I do shoot about 95% cast boolits that I buy commercially or have a buddy that trades me some of his casts. I do buy 1200-1500 commercial cast/pre-groove lubed a year, but they all still get one, or sometimes two tumbles in a lube mix of one part straight LLA and two-three parts of odorless mineral spirits. I just tumble 25-40 (depending on boolit size), with a few drips of the lube, at a time in a aluminum Coors screw on cap can/bottle, them dump them out on wax paper and stand them up in rows. Unlike straight LLA, these will air dry in 12-18 hours with nothing but a smooth, clear, goldish colored finish. I'm a big fan of the mineral spirit reduced LLA.


jd

Sasquatch-1
09-29-2021, 07:59 AM
My lubrasizer is pooped out!


What happened with your lube machine? Maybe it's an easy fix.

soldierbilly1
09-29-2021, 10:10 AM
Yes, it works on any bullet. Light coats. I usually do two coats. I coat-size-coat. Sometimes I do a third. You should barely be able to tell each coat is there, and the reason is that it dries and hardens the best this way. You often hear people complain about Alox being goopy, or messing up sizing dies, etc. If you apply it thin, and it dries, Alox is practically a no-bake coating that is not sticky at all. You can rub it off with a rag it you try hard enough, but it should not feel like a bullet coated in Carmel.



thanks to all for the great advice!

billboy

slowly recovering from Covid!

mdi
09-29-2021, 01:05 PM
I do quite often. I don't care for alox or 45-45-10 on the bullets' noses so I dip lube. "Cannot tell" for me is my dipped bullets are the same accuracy, lack of leading, general functioning as my wax based lubed bullets, just a tad more smoke...

Walks
09-29-2021, 03:19 PM
Accuracy wise, there was no difference.
Leading wise ? At 800fps there is none with either bullets from a Lube-Sizer or tumble-lubed.
Pushing bullets through a Lee bullet sizing die doesn't work well for me unless they have a bit of lube first. I place them on a clean hand towel and give a heavy squirt of cooking spray. Then pick up edges of towel and roll the bullets back & forth. I then size them and NEXT day tumble-lube them in 45-45-10.
I know TL works well, it just seems a longer messier way to go.

PC is not greasy, that's the part I like best. And that I color my 2 .32cal RN bullets different colors to tell them apart.

poppy42
09-29-2021, 03:31 PM
Yes! I recommend Ben’s liquid lube is supposed to straight alox! It dries faster, smokes less, overall it works better. For me anyway. It’s nothing more then he locks either Johnson’s or ludmarks liquid wax and mineral spirits.The actual formula is readily available here on the forum in the lube section.

Mk42gunner
09-29-2021, 06:30 PM
I'm late to the tumble lube bandwagon; but after trying it for the .32 S&W Long and .38 Special, I am satisfied with it at least for lower level handgun rounds.

I use BLL, a light coat followed by a pass through a Lee sizing die mounted in an upside down Lyman Accu-Press with a length of tubing leading to the catch can. After sizing, another light coat of BLL.

Other than the drying time, it is much faster than using the old Lubamatic.

Robert

GregLaROCHE
09-30-2021, 01:50 PM
Lots of people mix LLA with Johnson’s Paste wax. They claim they aren’t sticky that way.