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Ohio Rusty
09-11-2021, 09:37 AM
Page 593 of Speer #13 load manual. Shot shell load data for the 38/357, 44 special, and 44 magnum is listed there. Does anyone have a copy of that reloading manual that they can scan that page or make a xerox copy and send it to me please.
Thanks ...
Ohio Rusty ><>

farmbif
09-11-2021, 09:56 AM
I can't post pictures. what powder? ill post loads here if you want
here's unique and bulls eye

38---357, unique. 5.5gr. bullseye. 4.5gr

44spl. unique 6.7gr none for bullseye, hp38-5.8gr

44mag. unique 6.8gr. bullseye 6 gr

Ohio Rusty
09-11-2021, 11:33 AM
I have several bottles of Unique. That will work. I wonder if you can use Green dot or red dot ... I have that powder also. I have 3 12 gauge shells with 9 shot in them. That size 9 shot is what I will use for the shot capsules. Interesting that there is only a 10th of a grain difference between .44 special and.44 magnum.
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Minerat
09-11-2021, 11:45 AM
From Speer #9

288518
288519

NEKVT
09-11-2021, 12:21 PM
This is from Speer #10 if it helps:

288520

Ohio Rusty
09-11-2021, 02:10 PM
Thanks Guys for the load data. That will help alot. I appreciate it.
Ohio Rusty ><>

jmorris
09-14-2021, 08:10 AM
#12

https://i.postimg.cc/PxSJgbJt/Screenshot-20210406-111535-Drive.jpg
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Electrod47
09-14-2021, 10:58 AM
Interesting that there is only a 10th of a grain difference between .44 special and.44 magnum.
Ohio Rusty ><>
Remember with pistol shot shell there is a point when to much powder just blows the shot pattern apart and you gain little from increased velocity.

Dale53
09-14-2021, 02:22 PM
I have experimented a good deal with shot cartridges. I found that the best patterns (and effectiveness) came using #12 size shot. It can be difficult to find and a bit expensive but worth it. Getting a buddy or two to order together helps with the cost. Ballistic Products is where I bought my #12.

I have used them on snakes a good bit. They also work well on rats and mice in a barn. The fine shot minimizes any possible damage to the building inside. They work well on pigeons inside also.

Just a thought or two.

Dale53

Rfeustel
09-14-2021, 11:22 PM
From 13

288728

288729

Alferd Packer
09-18-2021, 05:20 AM
What Dale 53 said!
The no.12 shot really is worth it to make snake hamburger.
A larger amount of no. 9 will do in a pinch at closer range, but the no.12 is tops also for rats,mice and are slightly less dangerous as rickochettes and bounce back and also won't destroy background of target.

Dale53
09-18-2021, 10:40 AM
Back inn the day, I did a LOT of backpacking in rough country. The #12 shot minimizes "backsplatter" as Alferd states from hard, rocky ground where snakes are often found. Plus, it is just more effective at close range (the place where poisonous snakes are dangerous!).

FWIW
Dale53

RugerFan
09-20-2021, 08:49 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/3JXxNSbR/SS-data.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

j4570
09-29-2021, 03:53 PM
I load all my shot loads in 44 Special and 38 Special cases. That way they can be shot in a 38/357 or 44 spl/mag. Oddly, CCI used to make them in 44 mag, but you will see all the factory 44 shotshells are now specials as well. That way they fit more stuff.

Rick459
10-04-2021, 11:50 PM
Ohio Rusty...don't have a scanner but here are two photo's from page 593 and 594 speer#13289704289705

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ddixie884
12-18-2021, 07:36 PM
This is from Speer #10 if it helps:

288520

Good stuff, thanx.............

Alferd Packer
02-11-2022, 06:32 AM
I think even if you have to get ballistic products 11 pound lot, you could make up some ziplock bags and peddle it at gunshows.
It's the only way to go for the best performance.
Also you can readily load the smaller caliber pistol shells like .32 and make a viable round using the 12's.
Good selling point right there.

HillbillyJim
02-13-2022, 04:04 PM
Great info I have been looking for this info. Now to get a couple of pounds of no 12 shot.