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Stopsign32v
07-23-2021, 09:11 PM
Just curious, I plan to try out my "patina'd" MP mold tomorrow and wondering if I need to smoke it or not.

rancher1913
07-23-2021, 09:29 PM
I only smoke a mold as a last resort.

dondiego
07-23-2021, 09:47 PM
I can never keep mine lit.

Shanghai Jack
07-23-2021, 09:52 PM
I can never keep mine lit.
Leave a bad taste in the mouth as well.
Seriously same as rancher

RickinTN
07-23-2021, 10:02 PM
Very rarely. It has been my experience that brass molds like to run hotter than aluminum molds. I have to run some of mine up around 800 degrees. I usually run my aluminum molds just under 750. Just keep running the heat up until the mold acts right.
Good Luck,
Rick

high standard 40
07-24-2021, 07:33 AM
I never smoke any mold. I tried that early in my casting career and never found it to be a benefit.

dale2242
07-24-2021, 07:52 AM
I never smoke a mold.

Thumbcocker
07-24-2021, 08:31 AM
Nope

Wayne Smith
07-24-2021, 08:49 AM
Ditto, I haven't smoked a mold in years.

charlie b
07-24-2021, 08:51 AM
Same here. I used to do that a lot in the old days. Then I learned that just cleaning them well and finding the right temperature for them is a better way to go, even for my Lee molds.

Shepherd2
07-24-2021, 09:02 AM
I don't think I've smoked a mould in 25 years or more. I never felt it do anything to help and I learned that heat was the key to casting a good boolit.

JonB_in_Glencoe
07-24-2021, 09:03 AM
I don't smoke 'em. I heat cycle my new brass molds several times, which starts the patina process, I would think that smoke would obstruct that process.

BUT, if a mold doesn't start casting good after 2 or 3 casting sessions, I'll then give the smoke thing a try.

Lastly, a boolit caster I respect very much will say to put a very lite smoke (using a butane lighter) on a new mold, I don't think you'd even see any soot from that? He claims the lite smoke will last long enough for oxides (patina) to develop, hence not needing a second smoke application...I don't recall if he does the heat cycle thing first or not?

Tar Heel
07-24-2021, 09:07 AM
Like most above, I tried smoking a mold once but it really had no effect. Higher casting temp cured sticky bullets. Casting temp affects fill-out and diameter which can cause sticky bullets.

ourflat
07-24-2021, 09:09 AM
Yes!

Bigslug
07-24-2021, 10:00 AM
I can never keep mine lit.

I imagine the humidity from the bong water would rust the pins as well.

No. . .I never saw any benefit from mold smoking.

lesharris
07-24-2021, 10:11 AM
Not with my brass molds. Seldom with LEE aluminum molds.

lightman
07-24-2021, 10:56 AM
I never smoke any mold. I tried that early in my casting career and never found it to be a benefit.

Same here.

hermans
07-25-2021, 03:59 AM
Nope, especially with brass molds. If the mold and the alloy is at the correct temperature, there should be no need for smoking the mold as they will just drop from the mold with a light tapping.

Iwsbull
07-25-2021, 01:42 PM
Only time I smoked a mold was the first Lee mold I bought, since then I learned as others mentioned that clean and temp are keys.

stubshaft
07-28-2021, 02:38 AM
Only time I smoked a mold was the first Lee mold I bought, since then I learned as others mentioned that clean and temp are keys.

Well said! Smoking a mold and all of the related coatings (graphite etc.) are NOT needed.

cwlongshot
07-28-2021, 07:14 AM
I don't smoke 'em. I heat cycle my new brass molds several times, which starts the patina process, I would think that smoke would obstruct that process.

BUT, if a mold doesn't start casting good after 2 or 3 casting sessions, I'll then give the smoke thing a try.

Lastly, a boolit caster I respect very much will say to put a very lite smoke (using a butane lighter) on a new mold, I don't think you'd even see any soot from that? He claims the lite smoke will last long enough for oxides (patina) to develop, hence not needing a second smoke application...I don't recall if he does the heat cycle thing first or not?


100% agreed with this!!

What you need to do is simply just cast or better yet heat cycle the mold a few times. Then use proper heat on mold before tou expect good bullets from it. Another issue cannbe cleanly ness. I always advise people
To buy brake cleaner and literally hose out the mold. It will remove any oils they could cause issue to the quality of the bullets.
All molds are different some cast straight away others are as we are describing and require use (or heat cycling) to creat good bullets. But bottom Line is proper heat of the mold. (Get a hot plate and use it!)

CW

Lloyd Smale
07-28-2021, 02:53 PM
i dont put anything in a mold but lead

John Boy
07-28-2021, 03:37 PM
Bring the mold up to the temperature of the melt and lube the pins with parrafin… that’s it