R-134a

[jim147]

R-134A is taking a price jump like R-22 did years ago. If you do your own or for a living, it's time to stock up like primers.

[shell70634]

New stuff is R1234 or sumptin like that. 3 times the cost of 134.

[jim147]

Yes and look into the machines to do it.

[Mk42gunner]

R-134A is taking a price jump like R-22 did years ago. If you do your own or for a living, it's time to stock up like primers.
Noticed that the other day. I was thinking of buying a can for my truck. then decided I can use the old 260 ac for a while this summer.

I mainly stay local with the pickup anyway.

Robert

[Finster101]

New stuff is R1234 or sumptin like that. 3 times the cost of 134.

R1234yf is the R134a replacement and yes it is quite a bit more expensive. Heck I remember how outrageous R12 got before it was fazed out of automotive.

[fixit]

If you look at the attitudes of the greenies, I suspect they have designs on denying any form of a.c., and limited heating for the masses.

[lylejb]

I work for a GM dealership, and our COST for r1234yf is $650 for.a 10lb can. R134a is a bit over $200 for a 30lb can. Last year, r134 was about $100 a can.

[jim147]

Noticed that the other day. I was thinking of buying a can for my truck. then decided I can use the old 260 ac for a while this summer.

I mainly stay local with the pickup anyway.


Robert

If you need anything HVAC or appliances let me know. You are close enough I will take care of you.

[too many things]

rural king has it for 3.99

[abunaitoo]

R1234yf is highly flammable.
It also produces toxic hydrogen fluorid gas when it burns.
So much so that German carmakers refuse to use it.
http://straighttalkautomotive.com/articles/r1234yf-refrigerant-dupont-honeywell-daimler.html

[bakerjw]

The funny thing is that the CFC destroying the ozone layer was pushed by companies with expiring CFC patents.
I have a handful of minisplit units in my house that use 134 so when I got them, I picked up a 10 pound can just in case I eve need to recharge one of them.
So far, no leaks at all.

[Finster101]

I work for a GM dealership, and our COST for r1234yf is $650 for.a 10lb can. R134a is a bit over $200 for a 30lb can. Last year, r134 was about $100 a can.


Not to mention the extra time it takes to recover and recharge a yf system due to the recovery machines.

[lksmith]

I usually pick up a few 12oz cans when they go on clearance at the end of the year. My truck has had a bent condenser (crow at 100MPH) for about 8 years, so far not leaking. My older vehicles (1995 Geo Tracker, 2003 Honda Pilot) generally use 1-2 cans per year between them. Not a lot, enough to be worth keeping around but not enough to get fixed.
I heard that propane can be used as a drop in replacement for R12, even safe to mix with R12. But not used due to flammability

[tinsnips]

We use a ton of 410a in my ac business 100.00 for 25 pds in the winter 350.00- 400.00 for the same jug during summer season.

[jim147]

Seeing my local johnstone at over $400 for a 30lb jug hit me. My main supplier is cheaper but still over $200. I remember getting a a pallet of R-22 for under $30 a jug.

[.429&H110]

My student worker and I were sitting on a staging with a recovery machine pumping 410a on the staging under us. A new YellowJacket hose blew off an end at 515 psi, flogged about for a minute. That finally convinced the kid to wear safety glasses, and inspired me to build a portable recovery can chiller to freeze a can in a five gallon pail of ice to 10F. A cold can will recover a lot of liquid all by itself...

R-1234 yf will burn. Any "freon" will decompose in a flame, but 1234 will burn with a flame making HF: our old friend hydrofluoric acid. That's not a surprise, R-12 made phosgene. So we recover refrigerant and purge with nitrogen so we don't poison ourselves or burn the copper.

R-134a is a mild anesthetic according to the kids that huff it. I have not tried that, but the EPA certified it as safe
non-flammable, non-toxic. I found 134a to be tough on valves, it's hot dry stuff. R-22 is a perfect refrigerant and the Chinese are still making tons of it for their own use. Alas, the patent expired. Who is running America? Dupont?

The cows do not need sunglasses, there is no ozone hole over Kennebunkport. The hoaxes persist.
I am glad I retired.

[Winger Ed.]

there is no ozone hole over Kennebunkport.


It was a miracle. After Pres. Bush Sr. left office, it cured itself.

[bakerjw]

I stand corrected. Mine is 410A and not 134.

[popper]

Most of the newer stuff is a solution, not a compound. EPA sucks.

[farmbif]

when global cooling kicks in prices will drop

[popper]

Quote today, 185$/# 410a.

[jim147]

Quote today, 185$/# 410a.

Holy it's about $450 for 25 pounds at my place. I might get out of this field earlier than planned. I'll go back to machine work.

[varmintpopper]

I have two 12 oz cans of R12 that has been setting on a shelf in the garage since about 1960, wonder if it is worth anything ?

Good Shooting

Lindy

[jim147]

I have two 12 oz cans of R12 that has been setting on a shelf in the garage since about 1960, wonder if it is worth anything ?

Good Shooting

Lindy

I still have some myself. Only people I know that still use it are classic car purists and I don't have any of those type around here.

[ruger1980]

I have two 12 oz cans of R12 that has been setting on a shelf in the garage since about 1960, wonder if it is worth anything ?

Good Shooting

Lindy

I have almost a fill case of 12oz cans and about a third of a 30lb. tank. I use it in my 92 dodge truck rather than try converting to R134a. I feel it works much better than the conversions.
It is worth quite a bit if you advertise it on CL or Ebay. The cans are usually $30plus with some asking twice that.

[Acorn]

I recently(2-3 weeks ago) saw r134 at Tractor Supply for $4.95/12oz. can.

[Brassmonkey]

Just use propane, or the duster in a can. To hell with what the gov says.