McDonald's or Trucker? Nearly same pay here.

[Idaho45guy]

Was looking for a local trucking job and Busch Distributors had an ad for a bulk truck driving job. Needed a Class B CDL, tanker and hazmat endorsements, had to be able to lift 100 lbs, and occasionally 400 lb barrels. Started at $16 an hour.

Just went through the local McDonald's and they had a sign saying they needed help and started at $15 an hour.

Crazy to think that some 16 yr old kid slinging burgers can start the same as a man driving a fuel truck. Seems wrong to me.

[cwtebay]

"occasionally 400 lb barrels"!!!!!!!
Holy flying monkeys!!!!

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[Idaho45guy]

"occasionally 400 lb barrels"!!!!!!!
Holy flying monkeys!!!!

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From their website:

Occasionally: Lift 120 pounds

Rarely: Lay down/stand up 400 pound barrel (there is a technique, not dead lifting 400 lbs.)

[megasupermagnum]

I'm pretty sure there is a typo. It must be $26 an hour. Truck drivers are in huge demand, nobody would take that job.

[Idaho45guy]

I'm pretty sure there is a typo. It must be $26 an hour. Truck drivers are in huge demand, nobody would take that job.

That's how it is around here. Wages have always been suppressed for some reason. And the town that company is based in just set a new record for the median home price of $400k.

[Idaho45guy]

I'm pretty sure there is a typo. It must be $26 an hour. Truck drivers are in huge demand, nobody would take that job.

The same company has Class A fuel tanker positions available at their Spokane office, 85 miles North, starting at $27 an hour. It's just this area with two colleges that they can pay horrible wages because of an endless supply of educated temp workers that are easily replaced and are happy making enough to pay rent and buy beer.

[Thumbcocker]

Our local McDonald's is closing early because they can't get employees for all shifts.

[sparky45]

Our local McDonald's is closing early because they can't get employees for all shifts.

I'd say that might be a "community service".

[rondog]

Yeah, $16/hr for that? That'd be a hard no from me. Guess where I won't be living?

[dverna]

My friend started at $20/hr with Holland Freight a couple of months ago, and he has great medical and 401k. He does not have a CDL and is driving a box truck and doing "local" deliveries within 50 miles or so of town. He loves it. Expects to be over $25/hr when he gets his CDL and the company is paying for his training.

McD's here is starting at up to $13/hr.

[farmbif]

regardless of pay what about quality go life though a job. if you ever worked in a restaurant it gets really gross after a while the nasty rank smells will permeate your clothing and run a foul of your senses. never been a truck driver but it gets you out and about in the world, moving and lifting can help keep you in good physical condition. 400lb barrel on a proper barrel dolly is not a big deal if your in decent physical shape

[JSnover]

Many moons ago I worked at MacD's and it's really not much of a job. More like mind-numbing repetition and too much junk food. In a few more years I'll retire from my current job of Industrial Service Technician and I won't miss the heavy lifting or the filth but I'll be damned glad I didn't waste 40-plus years at McDonalds.

[Ed K]

Local restaurant chain is advertising on the radio for dishwashers @ $19/hour including medical, 401K and signing bonus. Hard to imagine anyone working for less than $20 in this neck of the woods.

[BJK]

Central Maine has help wanted signs up everywhere one looks. Burger flippers start at $15 or $16/hr. Pizza delivery started at over $20. That's what happens when the feds pay people to stay home. But the America hating mentally deficient fraudulently elected president says that's not what's doing it.

[megasupermagnum]

That's how it is around here. Wages have always been suppressed for some reason. And the town that company is based in just set a new record for the median home price of $400k.

I just randomly picked a town south of Spokane, Moscow in this case. The second job on Indeed is a Library assistant, $22-$27 per hour. I then looked for "drivers", and there are all kinds of CDL driving positions in the area in the mid to upper 20's and hour. "The man" isn't keeping you guys down, it's simple supply and demand. Thankfully skilled labor is in high demand. I'd be thankful no-skill jobs like McDonalds is offering such a reasonable wage.

[Finster101]

regardless of pay what about quality go life though a job. if you ever worked in a restaurant it gets really gross after a while the nasty rank smells will permeate your clothing and run a foul of your senses. never been a truck driver but it gets you out and about in the world, moving and lifting can help keep you in good physical condition. 400lb barrel on a proper barrel dolly is not a big deal if your in decent physical shape


Never wanted to work in the food service industry. Something about it always grossed me out. I was okay with being up to my elbows in grease and oil though.

[DocSavage]

You have to take in the " living wage " idiots into account. When I was working I got into the minimum wage argument with one of the die hard union guys. Who's to determine what a fair minimum wage is,my argument was I thought that $50 an hour seems fair but when you take in account that all your prices for consumer goods,tradesmen and will have to go up considerably to pay that wage $50 an hour especially for mom and pop businesses that hire the majority of workers they just go out of business.

[reddog81]

My friend started at $20/hr with Holland Freight a couple of months ago, and he has great medical and 401k. He does not have a CDL and is driving a box truck and doing "local" deliveries within 50 miles or so of town. He loves it. Expects to be over $25/hr when he gets his CDL and the company is paying for his training.

McD's here is starting at up to $13/hr.

Same here. Just looked up a few ads and CDL drivers can easily get $26+. Local fast food is around $13 per hour.

[white eagle]

Was looking for a local trucking job and Busch Distributors had an ad for a bulk truck driving job. Needed a Class B CDL, tanker and hazmat endorsements, had to be able to lift 100 lbs, and occasionally 400 lb barrels. Started at $16 an hour.

Just went through the local McDonald's and they had a sign saying they needed help and started at $15 an hour.

Crazy to think that some 16 yr old kid slinging burgers can start the same as a man driving a fuel truck. Seems wrong to me.

seems to me that anyone with the skills needed to be a bulk truck driver
would even work for 16.00 an hour
a bunch of requirements even to drive and they do ad to the employees resume and skill set
seems like someone is trying to hire and not pay qualified workers what they are worth
like you said anyone can flip burgers

[jonp]

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[hoodat]

Wages for driving jobs vary greatly depending on many variables. Local route drivers are pretty much at the mercy of the local economy and demand. Teamster gigs pay well no matter where ya are. How hard you work physically, is absolutely NOT a factor in how much you make.

I work for a locally owned building supply company (picture a small Home Depot). We have to be competitive with other suppliers in the region, and provide the same or better service. I've been doing this for the same outfit for over twenty years, and love the job. I've delivered over a thousand whole house builds, from the foundation to the roof.

I'm pretty proud of what I do, because I've seen a lot of guys do a bad job of it. The money I make is fair considering the area I live in, but it's nothing to brag about. I have to have a Federal Crane Certification to do part of the job, and would make twice the money in the public sector, union jobs, etc.. I give my employer a good deal, and they keep me pretty happy.

285516285517

Here's my two main rigs, One is brand new, drives like a limo, and is exclusively mine. I'm about to turn 65, and starting to work a little shorter hours, and easier jobs. I still find myself reluctant to retire. jd

[jonp]

seems to me that anyone with the skills needed to be a bulk truck driver
would even work for 16.00 an hour
a bunch of requirements even to drive and they do ad to the employees resume and skill set
seems like someone is trying to hire and not pay qualified workers what they are worth
like you said anyone can flip burgers

Anyone can flip burgers buy what if they can't get the burgers?

[jonp]

Wages for driving jobs vary greatly depending on many variables. Local route drivers are pretty much at the mercy of the local economy and demand. Teamster gigs pay well no matter where ya are. How hard you work physically, is absolutely NOT a factor in how much you make.

I work for a locally owned building supply company (picture a small Home Depot). We have to be competitive with other suppliers in the region, and provide the same or better service. I've been doing this for the same outfit for over twenty years, and love the job. I've delivered over a thousand whole house builds, from the foundation to the roof.

I'm pretty proud of what I do, because I've seen a lot of guys do a bad job of it. The money I make is fair considering the area I live in, but it's nothing to brag about. I have to have a Federal Crane Certification to do part of the job, and would make twice the money in the public sector, union jobs, etc.. I give my employer a good deal, and they keep me pretty happy.

285516285517

Here's my two main rigs, One is brand new, drives like a limo, and is excessively mine. I about to turn 65, and starting to work a little shorter hours, and easier jobs. I still find myself reluctant to retire. jd

When I was doing roofing and masonry everyone wanted to see that crane truck show. I got pretty good leg muscles hauling shingles up a ladder

[Duckiller]

Have you ever watched the people working at a fast food store. They are constantly on the go . It is one of the jobs I glad I never had. #2 son worked for Starbucks for about 6 months 20 years ago. He still can't stand the smell of coffee. Had a cousin whose son worked at McDonalds in high school and all through college. He was good at it. Any time he was home from school he could flip burgers. When at school and it was late at night and he was tired but needed to study for another hour he just thought about those burgers and kept on studying. He is now a successful engineer.

[guy_with_boolits]

average truck driver wage in USA $66,356 https://www.indeed.com/career/truck-driver/salaries

lowest 10% down to 38k
median $56k
highest 10% up to 78k

seems about right to me. Can definitely make more than that with a) bonuses b) add'l certs or skills c) business partnering

[rancher1913]

those career pages like that never factor in the time your having to sit in the truck waiting on either your log, unloaders, or other down time, me if I am being held hostage in a truck, I believe I should be paid for it. when you factor in all the unpaid time you are expected to put in, yah you might make 50k but hourly its less than 20 bucks. also factor in the fact that you only get to see your family maybe every 2 weeks, have to shower at truck stops and have to deal with all the hostile little car drivers.

[444ttd]

keep voting demoncraps. sleepy joe will put on the government dole and you don't have to work.

[kevin c]

The local In&Out is advertising starting hourly wage of $19.50. This is the heart of the Left Coast, though.

From what I see looking into the kitchen, you'd work hard for the money, learn efficient individual and team work and how to treat the customer right. I don't know whether the corporate business model is based on high turn over, so no idea on long term prospects for moving up and making more.

[Handloader109]

Friend of my daughters is working for nursing home driving van at $15 an hour. They have bus and he's to get cdl to be able to drive that. Local bus drivers are at 17 to $19. Dump truck at $22 and up.

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[JSnover]

The local In&Out is advertising starting hourly wage of $19.50. This is the heart of the Left Coast, though.

From what I see looking into the kitchen, you'd work hard for the money, learn efficient individual and team work and how to treat the customer right. I don't know whether the corporate business model is based on high turn over, so no idea on long term prospects for moving up and making more.
That's the thing about entry-level jobs; they prepare entry-level workers for their first 'real' jobs, whether they stay in fast food or move on to another field. If the company can afford that wage and the menu isn't overpriced, it's a model that works.

[Butzbach]

regardless of pay what about quality go life though a job. if you ever worked in a restaurant it gets really gross after a while the nasty rank smells will permeate your clothing and run a foul of your senses. never been a truck driver but it gets you out and about in the world, moving and lifting can help keep you in good physical condition. 400lb barrel on a proper barrel dolly is not a big deal if your in decent physical shape

I can tell you've never been a trucker. If you think working in a restaurant can make you feel trapped, wait 'till you learn about dock schedules, loading fees, speed and location tracking, permits, and shift regulations. There's also an old country song you need to listen to about coffee, Doan's Pills and Preparation H. [smilie=f: