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farmbif
06-14-2021, 09:42 AM
got a new project, a barn find, a first year, 1947, Farmall cub with belly mower. for some reasons I can't post pictures here anymore.
its got a couple problems but engine runs smooth, it smokes a little, but not too bad for a 74 year old machine. appears to still have all original 6 volt positive ground electric system. pto won't engage, at worst it needs new transmission shaft, if I have to dig in that far to fix it it will get new clutch and pressure plate. a few inches of rust on one rear rim but what look like original tires still holding air. the only real corrosion is battery box is rusted apart. but all the tin and front grill intact and real straight. once I get all the problems straightened out it will probably outlast any zero turn mower I could have bought for less than $5k

Evoken
06-14-2021, 09:57 AM
Agreed that it will outlast anything made today. Dad has a wide front super c no rear hydraulic unfortunately. I have my fil's 56' farmall 100 at our place now. Moved it when we moved them a few years ago. First year for the number series, single point spike hitch on the rear. It needs some love, a tree fell on it just before we moved it, and dad did not take care of it as well as he thought he was. Still fires up with a little finesse though.
Hard to beat the old machines even with their quirks.

farmbif
06-14-2021, 10:11 AM
I'm guess I'm one that keeps hoping American craftsmanship and manufacturing will return to what it once was. guess I'm living in the past. obsolescence was not built into those old machines they way it is engineered into stuff being built today. I thought I was going to get an old 130 Farmall but I think they advertised it at way too low a price, $1200 and stopped taking my calls when I told the dealership I'd be more than happy to pay their delivered price.
but one thing about the cubs is there are several places making replacement parts and prices are very reasonable.

country gent
06-14-2021, 10:19 AM
I had a 47 cub with hydraulic lift. If you have the 6' woods belly mower you really want the hyd lift. Also a 6' mower on the cub is really wanting for power. I had plow cultivators and mower for mine. Does yours have the wheel weights in the rims?

Cleat type tires are hard to find bu turf tires are available. Keep the coolant filled and add rust inhibitor yearly, The water jackets are known to rust out. Also the o ring in the oil filter cap should be replaced every change.

Pto engages with a sliding collar that where out until it wont engage not an expensive part and not hard to change out. Take care of the woods mowers drive belt they are long and expensive. One belt system all 3 pulleys on the deck back and over the 2 idlers then up to the pto pulley. The pto pulley is a taper lock remove 3 bolts,and put into tapped holes and use the to release hub from pto spline.

A great little tractor and fun to operate run. There was a front end loader for them cute little single arm loader. at 15-18 hp they are really wanting for power and with the non live pto you cant slip the clutch to slow down ground speed with out also slipping pto.

farmbif
06-14-2021, 11:33 AM
funny you mention front lift this thing has original Farmall lift brackets front and rear but only rear and belly mower are attached to touch control unit.front lift may have had a blade or bucket, don't have complete accessory manual yet to see which it is. upon closer inspection it has resistor mounted above distributor. I would like to restore to 6 volt system. got it running on 12volt but need to get a 6volt battery, battery box, carb kit, carb is leaking, float valve probably buggered,. maybe putting it all back to 6 volt is fools errand, will have to determine generator, voltage regulator and head light voltage. but without it running I was just messing with it and got pto engaged and turning pullet while in gear turned rear wheels a bit. might be simple fix. I'll order manuals and some basic parts and get into it. before this my smallest tractors are a super A and a yanmar 1500d. this should be a real fun worthwhile project

Evoken
06-14-2021, 11:45 AM
Another thing to keep in mind with these old machines is fuel. Any old rubber lines you will want to replace. Use ethanol stabilizer in every tank ( I like the stuff lucas makes that is green), also use lead additive. The valve seats need the lead to keep a good seal. Otherwise the compression is so low on them if you have old gas it will typically burn it.
This is what I do with my 8n, which is a 1950.

country gent
06-14-2021, 04:01 PM
On cubs the clutch and transmission have to be engaged Its not a live PTO when clutch is in everything stops

Wayne Smith
06-14-2021, 04:34 PM
I grew up in Maine with my Dad's Farmall 200 with front plow and a separate plow mount but two 2.5" steel rods sticking out. He would plow snow with the plow and move large rocks with the rods. He also had a 300 and an old 20 - that was a woods tractor before he got it and had the narrow front end - he would not let us boys drive it. That old 20 (hp rating?) could move, too. He used it for plowing and spring tooth harrow raking - of course we did it all with those tractors. Dad grew wheat, corn, at one time was the third largest dry bean producer in the State of Maine, and helped with the development of the Maine Yelloweye bean. Before I was 12 I was driving the 200, by older brother driving the 300, and Dad leading with the 20 to drive five or so miles to a neighbors farm where he was leasing the ground. We'd spend the day there and drive back in the evening. At various times we had two types of squash for pies and green peas for the local cannery too.

When I was 12 we moved to Northern Virginia and there was a Cub and a Super A there that I could drive.

Yeah, I have found memories of Farmall's.

B R Shooter
06-14-2021, 04:40 PM
Those Cubs are tough as nails. I had my grandfathers for a long time. It had a sickle mower since he bailed hay. But it did have front lifts cause he had front and back cultivators, and hydraulic.

Gewehr-Guy
06-14-2021, 04:46 PM
I have an old B Farmall with a 6' belly mower, and it could have used more power, and would get hot if you pulled it too hard. Would like to have a Cub, but really want an old L John Deere !!!

pworley1
06-14-2021, 04:52 PM
I have a 1976 1466 that still runs great. I had to put on new tires this year.

Idaho45guy
06-14-2021, 05:04 PM
My grandpa had one of those when I was a kid and I loved riding on it with him.

Those old tractors are worth their weight in gold out here now. Used old tractors simply don't exist out here on the market, according to my dad who has been searching for a few months for a decent used tractor.

He was told by a dealer that all of the Californians moving up here are buying up land and becoming "Hobbyists" in which they start raising goats, or Llamas, or some other hipster livestock and need a smaller tractor.

Dad has got by 50 years with his small horse operation with out a tractor by just renting one when he needed it for large jobs, or using his sons as forced manual labor, lol.

But, the last couple of years there has been a hay shortage and farmers have stopped producing the small bales and going to those giant rolls, so dad needed a tractor to move them around.

He looked all over the region from Utah to Canada and couldn't find anything under $20k.

Then, last week he happened to be driving by a local implement dealer and spotted a rough-looking `74 Ford 7600 with a hay spike, bucket, and scraper. Perfect! He found out it was traded in an hour earlier, so dad bought it on the spot for $5,000. It needs a lot of little things, but runs good and has good tires.

It's a tough market out here.

rancher1913
06-14-2021, 06:11 PM
not really a farmall guy but I do have a few. H, M, f-20 and some macormick/deering stuff as well

Mk42gunner
06-14-2021, 08:37 PM
Neighbor had a Cub when I was a kid, that's about s close as I have come to one. When I was looking for a small tractor with a belly mower the local used tractor dealer had a cub with a small mower 42" I think, it wasn't a Woods. The carb leaked on it like most Zenith carbs.

If you need a belt for yours, I have found that V belts for less dot com is a lot cheaper than buying locally. the one for my Woods was $34 or $38 plus shipping. It was made in India, but it has lasted several years.

Robert

labradigger1
06-14-2021, 08:50 PM
Farmall 504 here.

Texas by God
06-14-2021, 09:22 PM
1948 M that came to our farm around 1975ish. I once pulled the volunteer fire truck- and the duece and a quarter Kaiser that attempted it first - out of the mud in the creek bottom coastal field. And plowed field after field and moved a thousand ish round bales.
It's been dry and idle for years, but Lord willing I'll get her going again someday.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210615/3a39a0046805d42e311d30b7de5c4a45.jpg

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country gent
06-14-2021, 09:23 PM
I had a cub f series woods belly mower, plow cultivators and the wheel weights. ad had several over the years. He drew up with a F12 and a super H at home. He had a 400 with wide front conversion, 504 Mounted 2 row picker on it most of fall, 706, 1066, 74XX with front assist. He started on the original 40 acres with a oliver row crop on steel tracks, didnt do lot of cultivating or spraying then.

Bmi48219
06-14-2021, 10:52 PM
I was the proud and sometimes frustrated owner of a dealer sample Cub with hydraulic lift front blade, wheel weights, a swinging draw bar and later added Wood mower deck. The original paint color was white. I was told the white paint indicated the tractor was a dealer owned unit they would loan to perspective buyers. The carb bowl to carb top was warped from multiple gaskets and over tightening. Trued it by taping a sheet of 220 sandpaper on a glass plate and sanding until I couldn’t see daylight under the mating surface. Finished on 360 grit and then crocus cloth. It drug a dozen deer back to the barn, cut 5 acres of grass and plowed snow for 15 years before I sold to a collector when we moved.

ioon44
06-15-2021, 08:05 AM
I grew up with Farmall don't remember all of them but had a 1938 F-12, F-30, M, Super M, 1945 A with a 5' belly mower and the last one was a 674. Now all I have is a 30 hp Kubota with loader and finish mower.

Mal Paso
06-15-2021, 10:44 AM
I learned to drive on a Cub when I was 13. Mowed fields with the sickle bar, hauled rocks with the sled for a rock garden. Had to hit the starter and choke just right or it wouldn't start. The parking brake in the barn was a cinder block. In a hurry one morning I backed over and crushed the cinder block. I had an instant understanding how fragile cinder block is compared to concrete.

ourflat
08-02-2021, 08:25 AM
I absolutely love the Super M. Many hours working in the fields.

Frank

Soundguy
08-02-2021, 10:28 AM
cubs are neat. I also have a C and an H

ElPistolero
08-02-2021, 10:44 AM
LoL! I had a Cub with an exhaust-choke lift when I was in junior-high-school in Pa.
1955 IIRC. The tractor was more like 1945, but I don't remember that I ever knew the mfg. date. It WAS well-used when we got it.
Shucks, I learned to drive on that sucker and used it to plow & fertilize about 3 acres of truck. My Father and Ol' Man Rodale were buddies!
... even drove it into town one day with my brother and sister hanging on, to go swimming in the city pool; boy, did I catch it for doing that!

cabezaverde
08-02-2021, 04:40 PM
I have an IH 464 diesel that I use for mowing, snow, etc. Not a Farmall but a cousin.

B R Shooter
08-02-2021, 05:59 PM
My grandfather bought a Cub, plow, mower, cultivators, for $700. I saw the receipt for it all. Don't recall the year. The only tractor he could afford. He spent many hours plowing, discing and planting. He mowed pasture hay, but had a neighbor bale it. Amazing what that little tractor did.

A friend bought a used Cub, he and his father tried to find why it had no power, it ran, but wouldn't do anything. I went other there, started it,and started pulling plug wires off one at a time while running. It had two dead cylinders. They were getting fire, but dead. We pulled the flat head off, and there were two cylinders where the valves were seized. We rotated the cam so we had clearance, and started shooting solvent and working the vales loose. We got them all freed up, and went for a head gasket. In no time it was running and had all the power you could expect. Must have been sitting for a long time without being turned over.

Hard to kill those old tractors.

John Wayne
08-03-2021, 07:46 AM
Internet picture for ya. With belly mower seems rare. All old tractors are worth saving!
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scotth
08-03-2021, 09:10 AM
i have a 48 farmall cub best cultivating tractor for the veg garden. would like one of the old low boys with a loader for compost and garden work and a flail mower for mowing down the garden with maybe one day i will find one and bring it home.

white eagle
08-03-2021, 09:13 AM
not a farmall but I have a 1948 Ford 8N tractor and use it daily for everything
just mowed my field with it yesterday it does grading, tilling and planting duty as well
Love the fact it is 75 years old and still makes a living

B R Shooter
08-03-2021, 10:57 AM
I asked some family and the Cub my grandfather had was a 1952. My Dad's uncle bought a new Allis-Chalmers B in 1948. It stayed in the family until about 6 years ago. Still ran.

Alstep
08-03-2021, 10:13 PM
I mow all my lawn with a Cub Lo-Boy 154. Still running after 50+ years. I had a zero turn Husquvarna that was a piece of junk. This old IH just keeps going.

elmacgyver0
08-03-2021, 10:56 PM
My dad had an old tractor he called a 1020, I think it was a McCormick Deering or something like that.
He pretty much used it to only power a grain elevator that we used to put up rectangular straw bales into a loft.
Can't remember ever seeing a spec of paint on it, solid rust.
It had two fuel tanks, one big one oval shaped and one small round one that only held a couple gallons.
My dad said the small tank was for gas and the larger one for kerosene, you would start it with gas then switch to kerosene.
Never saw that done, my dad always used straight gas.
It had no tires, just steel wheels with triangular lugs.
You started it with a crank.
I was sad when my dad gave it away to some guy.

William Yanda
08-04-2021, 07:03 AM
I have an old B Farmall with a 6' belly mower, and it could have used more power, and would get hot if you pulled it too hard. Would like to have a Cub, but really want an old L John Deere !!!

Just like presses, some favor red, others green, blue, grey and so it goes. I once heard the reason IH stopped making "M's" was that they didn't wear out.

sharps4590
08-04-2021, 07:28 AM
Dad had one for few years, a 1949 I think. He had the belly cultivator, (is that right?) and a belly mower. Dad didn't dislike it, he just preferred his Ford Jubilee to the Farmall. When the wife and I were raising beef I always had Massey-Ferguson's. On the old Ferguson's and Massey's, change the paint and you could barely tell them from Fords.

richbug
08-05-2021, 08:49 PM
Super C and a 140 here. Fairly certain my son twisted off the axle on the Super C last weekend, it only moves if you hold down the right brake... Luckily there are lots of other tractors to do the work until I can look at it.

shdwlkr
08-07-2021, 04:46 PM
I grew up sitting in the seat of either a farmall H, M or super M, man that brings back memories. Those farms are all gone now due to taxes, no body wanting to farm, or kids wanting the money from selling.
They had to drill holes in the pedals and add wood blocks so my short legs to reach the clutch, and brakes back then I was short little guy that grew to 6 foot 4 inches until I broke my back then I lost 2 inches