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THG
06-11-2021, 06:06 PM
Got a good deal on a Glock 30SF. Those of you that cast for the 45ACP what mold do you recommend for economical practice and shooting my local match. IPSC targets range from 5 to 20 yards.
Thank you for your time.

gwpercle
06-11-2021, 07:08 PM
I don't shoot IPSC Match or Glocks but boolits cast from the Lyman #452460 200 gr. mould and fired in a Colt Gold Cup helped win 4 trophies in some old school NRA Bullseye Matches , you shoot 22- 38- 45 in slow timed and rapid fire legs . They may call it Precision Match now .
The same boolit in a Service Grade 1911A1 won a first place trophy in a G.I. Service Match ...
With it's pet load the Gold Cup would keep 10 shots inside 1 1/4" group at 25 yards .
I have never had any feeding problems with this design in 5 different 45 acp pistols over the years ...2 full size Colts , 1 Colt Commander , 1 Star model PS and one Taurus 1911 .
This design is an oldie but it works .
Gary

Mk42gunner
06-11-2021, 07:36 PM
I too use the Lyman 452460. Mainly in my Kimber 1911, but it also works in the ACP cylinder of my Ruger Vaquero.

It does look awful short when loaded right, but I don't have any feeding issues.

The H&G 068 seems to get all the glory, but the Lyman 452460 works just as well for me. Whether it will in your Glock, I do not know.

Robert

dswancutt
06-11-2021, 10:24 PM
Neither my Glock 21 or my Glock 37 in 45 GAP will shoot semi wadcutters. I'm just starting to collect the equipment to cast bullets, but have been shooting commercial cast bullets for years. 225 gr truncated cones run great in my 20, as do 200 gr RNFP, which work in the Glock 37. I tried different overall lengths, but no success. Others may have had success with SWC in a Glock, but for me it didn't work.

jcren
06-11-2021, 11:06 PM
Oddly enough, my 2 45 pistols and hipoint carbine all prefer the lee 200rf designed for 45 colt over the tc or hg-68 style molds I have. I powder coat and I have to seat just past the grimp groove to get them to plunk in my shortest throated pistol, but they are much more accurate. I assume it has to do with bearing surface to length ratio, kinda like a wadcutter for target shooting.

sghart3578
06-11-2021, 11:32 PM
Lee 200 gr SWC over a healthy load of Bullseye.

Burnt Fingers
06-12-2021, 05:56 PM
My choice is almost always a 200-210 gr SWC.

BUT!!! If there is any doubt whether those will feed I use a 200 gr flat nose. Accurate 45-200E. Everything so far gobbles it up.

Some pistols aren't going to run with a SWC. The original XD45 is one of them that's problematic with SWC boolits. I've tried a lead SWC boolit in five different ones and haven't gotten one of them to run.

What happens is that when the slide is moving to the rear the brass of the fired round hits the case mouth of the top round in the magazine and peels the case mouth back.

Of course that round will fail to chamber and it ruins the brass.

Conditor22
06-12-2021, 07:32 PM
Lee Precision 452-200-SWC 6 Cavity Bullet Mold

richhodg66
06-12-2021, 07:56 PM
Dad was an avid Bullseye shooter for decades and had a ton of state trophies to show for it. His favorite bullet was the Lyman 452488. Works very well in .45 Colt revolvers too.

derek45
06-12-2021, 11:04 PM
For a Glock, get a 230gr round nose


3.8-3.9gr CLAYS makes a wonderful IPSC load, accurate, affordable, economical, low flash, shoot major, but feels minor.

something like this ...

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/452-454/454-237-rn-ac4/454-230-rn-5-cavity-pb-hg-34/

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/454-237-RN_PB_AC4_Sketch.jpg

samari46
06-13-2021, 12:24 AM
`All I've shot in my two 45's is the basic 230 gr round nosed bullet. I get great accuracy and once I had a load developed never looked for anything else. Frank

Polymath
06-13-2021, 12:53 AM
Yep same here, Lee mold 230 gr round nose (hardball shape) L2 alloy. Tumble lube.

Taterhead
06-13-2021, 02:32 AM
Glocks are notorious for being disagreeable with SWC profiles, esp the smaller frames.

pworley1
06-13-2021, 07:07 AM
The Lyman 452460 or any of the other H&G 68 clones have always performed well in all of my 45's.

derek45
06-13-2021, 11:31 AM
Glocks are notorious for being disagreeable with SWC profiles, esp the smaller frames.

+1

All you guys recommending SWC's,....have you tried them in a GLock ????


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Burnt Fingers
06-13-2021, 02:37 PM
+1

All you guys recommending SWC's,....have you tried them in a GLock ????


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Some of them just like listening to their own voice.

Drydock
06-13-2021, 07:56 PM
Either of the Lee 230 Truncated Cones. Have not found a pistol or revolver that does not shoot them well. Have both, like both, use both. 1911s, New Service, SAA, Webley, Schofield, Marlin 94, Uberti Henry.

lightman
06-14-2021, 12:19 PM
The H&G 68 and its clones usually works well in most pistols.

Gar10
06-14-2021, 12:36 PM
Go with a round nose cast bullet like the Lyman 452374. I use this mold and it feeds flawlessly.

I too have a Glock 30 and it will not feed semi wadcutter bullets. I've tried it with the factory barrel and an after market Storm Lake barrel.

gwpercle
06-14-2021, 02:08 PM
One round nose mould you may not wish to buy is Lee452-228-1R ... that 1R nose profile is just not right ... at least in Colt 1911's and a Star model PS...had feeding troubles !
Only mould I ever sold , $2.00 and I felt like I cheated the guy .
It's a Wonky Boolit in self loads I had .
Lyman 452460 is the feeding champ .
Gary

jim147
06-14-2021, 05:49 PM
I would need to look to see if I still have a roundnose mold but I know the only one I pull out to cast with is the Lee 230 TC. I feeds in all my autos and shoots well in my SAA.

wilecoyote
06-14-2021, 05:57 PM
Yep same here, Lee mold 230 gr round nose (hardball shape) L2 alloy. Tumble lube.

same mold here, tumble lube, fine in the Heckler & Koch .45_

THG
06-14-2021, 09:43 PM
All suggestions appreciated. I have a friend who is sending me a some boolits from his Accurate 200M and 230M molds. I'll give them a try and go from there. Since he's shooting them in a Glock 30 I have high hopes that they will shoot well in mine. I that proves true I'll be ordering an Accurate mold or molds.

bruce381
06-19-2021, 11:40 PM
Glocks will have a stupid fail to feed jam with most SWC. The rear of the ejecting brass will get stuck on the SWC full band that is coming up from the mag. This I think can be overcome with a change in OAL and or load or bullet speed, I did not want to fool with it so went to a
Lee 200 FPRN

Castaway
06-20-2021, 06:40 AM
At the risk of melting down the internet with my opinion, I’d go with a 6 cavity Lee mould. Borrow some SWC’s or buy a $30, 2 cavity in SWC to see if the feed. If not go with their round nose You’re not shooting long distance like a rifleman and I seriously doubt any of the pistoleros can really tell the difference in different moulds at 20 yards. As long as the base of the bullet is filled out properly your accuracy will be consistent. A 6 cavity allows you to make a lot of bullets in a relatively short time. If the SWC’s don’t feed, Lee makes three different 230 grainer a, two truncated noses and a round nose

lesharris
06-20-2021, 09:26 AM
LEE 6 cavity 230 grain round nose has worked for me in several Glocks and Colts over the years in NRA and IDPA matches.

Burnt Fingers
06-20-2021, 03:55 PM
Glocks will have a stupid fail to feed jam with most SWC. The rear of the ejecting brass will get stuck on the SWC full band that is coming up from the mag. This I think can be overcome with a change in OAL and or load or bullet speed, I did not want to fool with it so went to a
Lee 200 FPRN

The first Springfield XD45 pistols had a similar problem.

The extracted brass would come back and hit the case mouth of the top round in the magazine and peel the brass back.

I've had three XD45 pistols and everyone of them did this when using a SWC bullet.

The XDM doesn't have this problem.

I'm a huge SWC fan for the 45 ACP. But I'll be one of the first people to say to get a RN or round nose flat point if you're not absolutely positive that your gun will feed a SWC.

I also agree with the poster to stay away from ANY Lee 1R design.

xringshutr
06-22-2021, 12:10 AM
If you can get your hands on one.......the best all around mold for me has been the MP 452-200RNHP. Feeding and accuracy in one package. I have a brass 4 cavity and it's beautiful to cast with. I like the hex hollow-point, but probably just because of the looks of the cavity; the round HP and the solid nose pins come with the mold. Any good boolit out of the mold shoots wonderfully if the trigger puller does their part.

If you don't want to spend that much on a mold or have a hard time finding one, just buy the 452374 Lyman. Won't give you feeding problems in the "plastic fantastic" G30. As was mentioned prior, SWC's can be finicky to feed in Glocks and Springfield pistols. Ensure you size to .452+ and you won't have issues with leading. 45 ACP is very forgiving.