38 caliber jackets from 30 cal Carbine

[Kragman71]

Hello,
I recall a post,somewhere,about using 30 Cal Carbine cases to make jackets for 38 caliber bullets.
Is there any truth to this?
Thanks,
Frank

[MIBULLETS]

Here is one post about it. There may be more out there...

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=41381

[kawalekm]

Hello Frank
If you look at the lower center of Corbin's website, you can what looks like a .35 or .375 caliber spitzer.
http://www.corbins.com/howto.htm

If you want to make .357 caliber bullets for a handgun, then the 30 carbine cases are too long. You can either trim them to the proper length, or use them to make a very, very long bullet. Me, myself, I am trying to make a cheap draw die to reduce the diameter of .380 auto cases down to .355" so they can be used for jackets. I'm using a reloadind die and have to anneal it first because I have no drill stock hard enought to cut it.
Michael

[waydownsouth]

to drill hardened parts and spring steel use a new masonry drill i think they are r2 bits, the carbide tips need to be reground to suit steel, they need to be run at a higher speed than standard drills and keep the preasure on

[kawalekm]

to drill hardened parts and spring steel use a new masonry drill i think they are K2 bits, the carbide tips need to be reground to suit steel, they need to be run at a higher speed than standard drills and keep the preasure on

Nope! I already purchased an expensive cobalt tipped set and I already broke one trying to drill the die. I will anneal before trying anything else.

[45 2.1]

Hello,
I recall a post,somewhere,about using 30 Cal Carbine cases to make jackets for 38 caliber bullets.
Is there any truth to this?
Thanks,
Frank

I've used the 30 Carbine cases to make 348 bullets. The 38 Special case would make a better true 38 caliber (0.375" to 0.380") bullet.

[Buckshot]

............I made a manually operated (mallet) 2 die set for a friend of mine. He'd read and article in an old American Rifleman (I think it was) about some of the stuff they had to do until the ammo makers got back into making ammo and components for 'civvies' after WW2. One was using 30 M1 brass as jackets for bullets in the 35 Whelen. SInce he had a 35 Whelen he felt it his responsibility to check it out.

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This is the core expanding die, operated with a lead mallet. Or a hydraulic press if you (or he) had one. What he did, since he didn't have lead wire was to use a 38 Special case as a lead dipper to pour hot lead into the carbine case. Once cooled you set it on the central stem of the baseplate, and then set the die down over it.

The drive piece goes down into the die and into the mouth of the carbine case. Then you whale on it with the mallet to upset the lead and expand the upper end of the case. Not shown is the nose forming die. All it was was a round bottomed hole. There was a hole drilled through from the nose for and ejector rod (#20 drill bit shank). You dropped the carbine case in nose down and set another compression stem similar in design to the core expander.

Give it a couple licks and it closed the carbine casemouth down. Invert and insert the ejector rod. Smack it on the workbench and the new 'Bullet' would pop out. IIRC they weighed about 200 grs or such a matter. This was about 6 years ago and details dim. He was in the process of moving to Prescott, AZ at the time and the shooting was done over there. He said they shot pretty well to about 50 yards but at 100 they weren't real predictable.

His issues were weight consistancy and lack thereof :-). He said he'd easily shoot a deer with it at 50 yards and it definetely was NOT anything to be taken lightly.

.................Buckshot