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Idaho45guy
06-02-2021, 07:44 PM
Got a touch of it today. I'm usually pretty good about slowing down before overdoing it, but since having Covid, I'm just not 100%.

92 degrees today, which is the hottest day of the year so far. Had to mow my double lot, by hand, and was just about done when I bent over to re-fuel and about fell over I was so dizzy.

Went inside and stuck my head under the kitchen faucet, drank a couple quarts of water, and went back outside to finish. Got done and now dizzy again and nauseous, so looked up signs of heat exhaustion and checked off all the boxes, lol.

Sitting inside and stripped down under the ceiling fan, so finally cooling down and feeling better. No AC in my house, but it usually stays reasonably cool. Currently 78 degrees.

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Anyone else had heat exhaustion or heat stroke?

I was roofing in Iowa in the 90's and it was July, with 100 degree heat and high 90's humidity. All of us on the crew were in our 20's and bulletproof, except one tubby guy that drank too much the night before. He turned beet red, stopped sweating, and started mumbling incoherently before he collapsed. We started dousing him with a garden hose and called an ambulance. He spent a couple of days in the hospital. They said he was very close to permanent brain damage.

DDriller
06-02-2021, 07:59 PM
Be careful from now on in case it was a heat stroke. Once you have had a heat stroke your are more prone to have them. My MIL can't work outside if it is over 80 degrees after she had hers 2 years ago.

Mk42gunner
06-02-2021, 08:05 PM
From what I remember, heat exhaustion is bad; but heat stroke can kill you. I can't remember the differences now, but if you stop sweating, it is serious.

Robert

MOA
06-02-2021, 08:10 PM
I got hit with it the first 2 months in mobile alabama. Moved from Tucson to mobile in July
Was outside at a neighbors sighting in a couple of 22's. 90 degrees, 88%humidity. Sweat all over my arms but no evaporation due to the high humidity so no body cooling. Got a wicked stiff neck in about 30 seconds , nausea about 20 seconds later. Went an sat down under the carport and passed out. They got me into the house large glasses of ice water and sitting under a ceiling fan for one hour.

Been living in the desert for 3 or 4 decades. Factors that later made it a no brainer for this to happen. Now over 60, humidity over 80 %, and temps above 85. Our older biological systems take longer to kick in and for us by the time they do we're already in trouble. I'm back in Arizona now but have not forgotten the lesson.

And yes, heat stroke is worse an it can kill you without medical attention quickly given. Heat exhaustion left unchecked will end up as heat stroke. Take it from someone who was roiling out roofs in the Valley of the Sun in Phoenix in July and August at 125 degrees when I was a young 28 year old.
.:drinks::drinks::drinks:

richhodg66
06-02-2021, 09:05 PM
If it had been heat stroke, he'd have been in a hospital. You've stopped sweating before that point.

I've always been a lot better at dealing with heat than cold. God knows the army had me in some hot places for extended periods of time. It really is about drinking water and staying out of direct sun as much as you can. I'll take triple digits over single digits any time.

Someone mentioned when heat gets the better of you to drink a few swallows of dill pickle juice, I've done that, also salt water with some cider vinegar in it, sure seems to snap me out of it quicker than Gatorade and such. Straight water is what you really need to prevent it, though.

MUSTANG
06-02-2021, 09:16 PM
I remember back in the 1970's the military pushed salt tablets to avoid heat stress related problems. There would be bowls of salt tablets in the chow halls at places like 29 palms California. By the mid 1980's they (the military medical establishment) had moved to "Over Drink" as the methodology to prevent heat stress illness. The truth is; stay in the shade when possible, drink lot's of water (and Gator Aide too if you got it), wear clothing that keeps your limbs covered to protect from sunburn and to lessen the water being driven out of your skin by the sun.

Idaho45guy
06-02-2021, 09:20 PM
I remember back in the 1970's the military pushed salt tablets to avoid heat stress related problems. There would be bowls of salt tablets in the chow halls at places like 29 palms California. By the mid 1980's they (the military medical establishment) had moved to "Over Drink" as the methodology to prevent heat stress illness. The truth is; stay in the shade when possible, drink lot's of water (and Gator Aide too if you got it), wear clothing that keeps your limbs covered to protect from sunburn and to lessen the water being driven out of your skin by the sun.

I did training at Fort Irwin in the Mojave desert years ago and it was 128 degrees. We were told to drink a gallon of water every hour. We did, and still did not have to urinate more often than usual, and perhaps less so. We had a couple of guys go down to heat exhaustion there. Miserable place.

jim147
06-02-2021, 10:06 PM
Hand it once. Now i need to be very careful doing HVAC. If I get too hot I am done for the day. The leukemia sure doesn't help.

rockrat
06-02-2021, 10:17 PM
Friend of ours has a son stationed at Ft. Irwin!! Been by there many a time traveling down I-15

WestKentucky
06-02-2021, 10:36 PM
Not me but I have seen plenty of it. I’m a safety manager now, have been a safety professional since 2008 so 13 years in and I have took plenty folks to cool down, rehydrate, and a couple to get checked by an ER doc. Heat is like alcohol, in many ways. You don’t feel it until your too far along. Others can see it in you before you can. Staggering, dizziness, mumbling, mood swings... Be careful and you will be OK. Be stupid and you won’t be. Be in between and you get situations like was described in the start of this thread. Caffeine, sugar, alcohol, and pretty much every ...ine that’s in energy drinks makes it harder on somebody. Avoid those within reason and you significantly reduce your risks. Occasional breaks in shade further decreases risk. Cool water during a break is great. Cold air or cold water is bad as it can put you into shock, and the body can’t use cold water, it has to warm the water up a bit before it starts helping. Sure cold air and an icy drink feel good at the moment but it takes longer to get actual relief than shade and water that’s just a few degrees cooler than the air.

tankgunner59
06-02-2021, 11:39 PM
Earlier this spring I was helping my FIL try to load an old AC tractor and a few other items he was given and heat started to mess with me. I knew the signs as I had suffered from heat exhaustion back when I was working and again in 2019. Both of those times it was extreme and I though it was heart attack. So be very careful, if you don't catch it early it can at least scare you bad, at worst it can be life threatening. So happy you caught it and cooled yourself down.

Winger Ed.
06-02-2021, 11:56 PM
During my Summer at Parris Island, SC--- they told us all about, and we had to watch each other for signs of it.
If someone went into heat stroke, they'd run ya over to sick bay and dunk ya in a tub of ice & water they kept for just such occasions.

Most people don't know how much blood is in your head, and how good of a radiator/heat exchanger it is.
In the classes I gave new flight crews for flying over cold water-- the first thing to tell them was not to take their helmet off.
It trapped enough body heat to put off hypothermia and extend their chance of surviving the cold water by about another 50%.

Years ago we had this horrible little punk working in the shop. He'd argue with a post.
One of those people that won't let ya be nice to them.
He got heat exhaustion one day, I told him to go run his head under the cold water at the deep sink.
After listening to his nonsense a bit, I told him, "Go ahead and get brain damage--- nobody will notice the difference anyway".

samari46
06-03-2021, 01:00 AM
Learned the salt tablet routine when our ship made the Westpac cruise '66-'67. Upper level in the pump room was minimum of 140 degrees and could only stand 2 hour watches. Swapped out with the messenger in the engineroom. Now I wear heavy long sleeve shirts, hydrate before I go out and bushog the back section. Heavy sunglasses to protect from UV. Frank

QuackAttack24
06-03-2021, 01:20 AM
I had it one day when I lived in Phoenix. I was in my late 20's and during the hot summer months, you could play all the golf you wanted for $4 at Papago Park, which is a good tournament quality public course. I didn't rent a cart and carried my bag. It was 110 degrees that day. After about 16 holes I felt like I was going to pass out. Suddenly I got weak and shaky, so I decided to quit and walk in. I literally had to drag my golf bag behind me down 17 and 18. Got back to the clubhouse and laid down under a shade tree. I fell asleep and woke up an hour later. One of the more stupid things I've done in my life.

Monday, I decided to melt some range scrap into ingots and it was 92 degrees outside. Sitting by that pot scooping out the dross for a couple of hours I realized I was soaking wet with sweat and starting to feel shaky, so I called it quits before getting all the lead done. It sneaks up on you. Don't forget to HYDRATE!!!

imashooter2
06-03-2021, 01:27 AM
Was at a USPSA match in 2012 or 2013 on a day well over 100 degrees. I want to say 107, but that is really hot for this area, so let’s just stick with well over 100. Anyway, this particular range is all white gravel and white concrete "pit" walls… basically a huge reflector oven. We were all drinking much water and I didn’t see anyone hit the head. On stage 6, a half a dozen squad members walked up to me one at a time and asked me if I was alright.

Pro tip… after the 3rd or 4th guy asks if you are alright, you probably aren’t alright. They got me into some shade and put some towels soaked in the cooler on the back of my neck and head. After a few minutes I felt good enough to limp to the car and turn the AC up. Another 15 minutes and I drove home. Was feeling much better by the end of the 40 minute trip.

After that incident, I won’t go to a match when the temperature is supposed to hit 100.

MrWolf
06-03-2021, 08:56 AM
If it had been heat stroke, he'd have been in a hospital. You've stopped sweating before that point.

I've always been a lot better at dealing with heat than cold. God knows the army had me in some hot places for extended periods of time. It really is about drinking water and staying out of direct sun as much as you can. I'll take triple digits over single digits any time.

Someone mentioned when heat gets the better of you to drink a few swallows of dill pickle juice, I've done that, also salt water with some cider vinegar in it, sure seems to snap me out of it quicker than Gatorade and such. Straight water is what you really need to prevent it, though.

I am the same way. I also don't tan, but turn a reddish-brown. Finally wised up and stopped the burn/peel routine. Love the heat as I can move a lot easier but stuck with long sleeves, hat, and yea even gloves when using ride on lawnmower. Ex had given my one of my rx creams and had put some on the back of my hands. Of course the ones that say no direct sunlight. Got a very nasty burn that even 20 years later I can feel in direct sun. Be careful folks and for the younger ones, Newsflash - you are not bullet proof and will eventually have to pay the price.

Garyshome
06-03-2021, 09:18 AM
Not for a while now since 2019. Dangerous stuff there. Always wear a hat and a long sleeve shirt when it's really hot.

Txcowboy52
06-03-2021, 12:35 PM
I experienced it 3 times, first time when I was a teenager hauling and stacking hay, the other two times after I became a welder. Welder and Texas heat is a tough combination. Hasn't happened in years now, guess I'm a slow learner but I finally catch on, it put me in the hospital once. Contractors used to make fun of the big yard umbrella I carried on my truck, right up to the time they stepped under it, then I couldn't get them out from under it !!

fixit
06-03-2021, 01:37 PM
I've experienced early heatstroke symptoms once. I was loading brush into my trailer for a lady I do automotive work for, and it was approaching 100°, so I should have been more mindful, but I had not drank anything but coffee that morning before going to the task. Got a good sweat going, working hard for about 45 minutes, when I realized I was chilling, so I planned to take a break after the armload I had at the moment, then I blacked out for a spit second! I dropped everything and went to the water spigot and spent the next 30 minutes cooling off and hydrating. I was 56 or so at that time, and I have become more serious about hydration because of it. My wife, a nurse, gave me considerable, deserved grief over that episode!

William Yanda
06-03-2021, 02:54 PM
Take a little Gatorade or other electrolyte with equal amounts of water. When I was working, I found I needed to up my salt intake in hot weather. Advise about susceptibility to repeat events is accurate.

Geezer in NH
06-03-2021, 03:49 PM
I have had both. As a career Pro-Firefighter. Keeping hydrated helps but at times wearing 75-80 pounds of gear and summer heat 90's and above never mind the temps involved in a building fire it happens.

Cooling the body off is the treatment. You were still functioning get in a cool shower. In the city I lived and worked water temp equaled the reservoir temp any where from 70-80 degrees That will work for heat exhaustion

Heat stroke is transport time to Hospital as you will need fluids and real cooling in an ice water bath under care. Care needed asap.

Don't play with it cause if you are by yourself you may just collapse and fry your brain.

Riverpigusmc
06-03-2021, 06:00 PM
I got it in South Korea humping up a mountain, full pack and gear. Woke up in a huey with an IV in my arm

white eagle
06-03-2021, 06:14 PM
I have had it
Puking,slurring speech,fighting to stay awake,headache.
Was within an eyelash of dying
was working on a Walgreens as a mason out in the sun for 8-10 hours
once you have had it you are never the same
I get headaches when in the sun without a lid
Pace yourself it aint no fun

jsizemore
06-04-2021, 01:36 PM
When you get older you probably should start hydrating the day before strenuous activity especially on warmer days . If you take or consume diuretics, you need to drink a little extra as you go. They'll up the amount you sweat.

Burnt Fingers
06-04-2021, 01:50 PM
I've never had it. I've always drank water a lot.

Back when I was delivering mail it was common for me to go through two gallons of water and a gallon of Gatorade in six hours. A couple of the medications I take increase perspiration, I can sweat a puddle in minutes here in Texas. I can drench a bath towel in a couple hours in the summer if the humidity is up.

I always have ice water and electrolytes handy.

I have seen many cases of heat stroke and heat exhaustion over the years.

When I was a teenager I bucked hay bales in Utah and Idaho. It wasn't bucking the bales that got ya, it was stacking them in hay barns. I watched several guys go down.

While in the Corps, during the time of "two canteens" per day we had a few guys go down on Okinawa during the summer.

While carrying mail we had a couple of bad heat stroke cases. Coffee or soda aren't good for ya. You need water and electrolytes. Even when you tell people this it goes over their head till they end up in the intensive care unit. It got to the point one summer where we had a union steward and supervisor driving around with a cooler full of Gatorade. They would locate a carrier and hand them one of those 20 ounce bottles and make them drink it while they watched. Then off to find the next carrier. That pretty much stopped the problem.

If you don't have to pee you're not drinking enough. Unfortunately for me I can't put it in faster than it's coming out during the humid summer. Couple that with the leaky valve on the bottom end and I can't tell if I've hydrated enough. So my default is to just keep sucking it down. As long as I'm sweating I'm good. If I quit sweating I'm in danger.

If you've got diabetes then you really need to watch this. You're a LOT more susceptible to heat issues. Thankfully they've come out with sugar free Gatorade. I've got a shooting buddy with diabetes, he sometimes gets tired of me forcing him to hydrate during the summer. Then a couple years ago he fell off his riding mower due to heat exhaustion. Now he listens to me.

I don't care how "manly" ya are, whether you're young or old. Just keep drinking water and electrolytes. Something I keep on hand and use is Elete. https://elete.com/shop/

This stuff works. There are many similar products on the market. Find one you like and use it. I add Elete to every other bottle of water I drink during the summer.

lksmith
06-04-2021, 06:02 PM
Heat exhaustion is rough! I have never handled the heat/humidity here. Even though I grew up working on a farm and played football up to college. However when we went to Death Valley and it was 120F outside I was actually kinda comfortable, felt about like 90F at home since there was no humidity there vs near 100% humidity here most of the year

kootne
06-04-2021, 07:39 PM
If you are in a low humidity area, a wet cotton bandana around your neck is real performance enhancer.

Texas by God
06-04-2021, 09:09 PM
50 years of working in the Texas sun here and my tip is to run cool water over your wrists and elbow pits first when you start to feel it coming on. Camp out by that water and get in that precious shade. I've been oh so close a few times.

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Mal Paso
06-05-2021, 01:37 AM
Shoveling sand out of a JD 555 bucket in 110F weather did it for me. Blasted tractor fans blow forward increasing the heat and I spiraled right into the ground.

I've since done truck mechanics in Phoenix at 115F. Slow down and stay relaxed along with hydration.

Shooting in 115F takes more guns, they literally get too hot to handle but at that temperature you don't have to wait in line for a shooting bench to open up.