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Carrier
06-02-2021, 01:56 PM
I have seen that some talk about sanding down the top side of Lee molds to remove any imperfections or gouges. Will doing this cause any issues as the vent lines will be removed? I do sand the sprue plate with 600 and higher to remove any on it but not sure about the top of the mold.
I have a couple of Lee molds that I first started casting with that are really gouged on the tops but still cast decent bullets.

bimus
06-02-2021, 02:54 PM
I have Lee mold that are the same way and I touch them up just because the looks bother me .

Mk42gunner
06-02-2021, 04:41 PM
My opinion only, but if it still casts decent boolits, I wouldn't mess with it.

Robert

Carrier
06-02-2021, 05:21 PM
283912

Just got these two but someone forgot to finish them

jim147
06-02-2021, 10:15 PM
Try casting with them first. Most of my Lee stuff is from years ago so maybe it has changed because I don't know why so many people crap on their stuff.

tankgunner59
06-02-2021, 11:43 PM
Almost all of my molds are Lee and I haven't had any problems with them in the years I've had them.

Carrier
06-03-2021, 12:22 AM
There are no vent lines anywhere on those two molds so I can’t see how they are going to work. I’m not crapping on Lee at all as I have lots of their stuff. The six other Lee molds I have cast really nice bullets and have very little amount of scratches or gouges but the two I first got when starting out casting are really rough.

Tar Heel
06-03-2021, 05:41 AM
Of my 24 Lee molds, I have never had to do anything to a Lee mold except fill it with lead. Any "finishing" you may do will void the warranty. I did replace a sprue plate on one that had an imperfect cutting surface. Cost me $4. I can live with that.

Tatume
06-03-2021, 06:57 AM
I wash Lee molds in hot water and dish washing detergent. Then I produce excellent bullets.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-03-2021, 07:45 AM
283912

Just got these two but someone forgot to finish them

Interesting.
While there doesn't seem to be any vent lines, there does look to be a "relieved" horizontal band that should act as a vent. Before I would modify a new Lee mold, I would clean them with Hot water, dish soap, and tooth brush...and then preheat the mold, then cast some to see if the mold is functional. If it proves to be troublesome, I'd call Lee first before decided on any modifications. If it needs better venting, that is easy to do. If the sprue plate scores the top of the mold, I'd search for the burrs on the plate and remove them. I can't imagine a case where I'd ever "sand" the top of a new Lee mold.
Good Luck.

lesharris
06-03-2021, 09:29 AM
Wash in Dawn and hot water and try the mold. It might surprise you. Lee has come aa long way over the years.

JoeJames
06-03-2021, 09:43 AM
Wash in Dawn and hot water and try the mold. It might surprise you. Lee has come aa long way over the years.

After that I have found that it does not cast real good boolits until the second or third bout of casting. In other words don't give up after the first or second casting session. I reckon it is kind of like seasoning a cast iron skillet.

Carrier
06-03-2021, 10:46 AM
I don’t think I should have put I the picture of the new molds. I originally was talking about two molds for 45/70 that I have when I first started casting. Needless to say I didn’t treat them very well and they have gouges on the top of the blocks.
My question was will it hurt if I sanded the gouges out as the vent lines will also be sanded down.
The picture is two new molds I had just received and there are no vent lines anywhere.
Lee has been contacted and I’m waiting for their reply.
JonB there is no vent or relief in the blocks it is just the angle of the picture.

robg
06-03-2021, 11:20 AM
my lee molds just get washed and used ,they all work fine.

Tatume
06-03-2021, 11:46 AM
JonB there is no vent or relief in the blocks it is just the angle of the picture.

Jon is correct. The vents are in the faces of the mold halves. They are clearly visible, and work very well. I have many similar molds; no trouble with any of them.


My question was will it hurt if I sanded the gouges out as the vent lines will also be sanded down.

If the gouges are interfering with the fit of the sprue plate, remove them. If the mold casts bullets with good bases and no flashing or finning, leave it alone.

If you sand the tops just enough to allow the sprue plate to sit flat, it is unlikely that you will produce an airtight seal. If you do make an airtight seal, add a vent. It is easily done by scribing a line or two from the edge of the cavity to the edge of the block. I doubt you will need to do so.

cuzinbruce
06-03-2021, 11:58 AM
I would clean them with alcohol or lacquer thinner or acetone, then smoke them with a butane lighter. I don't know if the sprue plate should be removed or not. I think I remember taking one off and it didn't seem like it was something to do very often. The Lee molds I used did well with smoking. Butane lighter is better than a candle.

MT Gianni
06-03-2021, 12:13 PM
Wash them up and let them dry. Find an old pencil with a wooden outer and go over every mm of it with the graphite tip. Break the tip off then burnish it well with the wooden part of the pencil. It might need some occasional lube from a Q tip and synthetic 2 stroke oil but that's all.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-04-2021, 02:54 PM
I don’t think I should have put I the picture of the new molds. I originally was talking about two molds for 45/70 that I have when I first started casting. Needless to say I didn’t treat them very well and they have gouges on the top of the blocks.
My question was will it hurt if I sanded the gouges out as the vent lines will also be sanded down.
The picture is two new molds I had just received and there are no vent lines anywhere.
Lee has been contacted and I’m waiting for their reply.
JonB there is no vent or relief in the blocks it is just the angle of the picture.
Oh, OK.

I wouldn't worry about "gouges" on top of the mold, UNLESS...it's galling right at the sprue pivot screw area, as this will cause a sprue plate to not sit flat or bind or lift. Of the 40+ lee molds I've had, I did have to remove galling in that sprue pivot screw area on two molds that I received from someone else...apparently they didn't use any sprue plate lube.

Carrier
06-04-2021, 06:00 PM
Oh, OK.

I wouldn't worry about "gouges" on top of the mold, UNLESS...it's galling right at the sprue pivot screw area, as this will cause a sprue plate to not sit flat or bind or lift. Of the 40+ lee molds I've had, I did have to remove galling in that sprue pivot screw area on two molds that I received from someone else...apparently they didn't use any sprue plate lube.

Thanks for the information Jon. I received an email from Lee stating that the two molds that I’m talking about not having vent lines like the other Lee molds I have say there are fine and to go ahead and use them. However they did not answer my question about them being a old or new design.
Those of you who have Lee molds like JonB and Tatume are these an old design? You are both right they appear to be vent lines but they sure are small.
It just seems odd that if they are an old design that they would still be in stock.

Bazoo
06-04-2021, 06:12 PM
Of my 24 Lee molds, I have never had to do anything to a Lee mold except fill it with lead. Any "finishing" you may do will void the warranty. I did replace a sprue plate on one that had an imperfect cutting surface. Cost me $4. I can live with that. I’ll bet you keep a Phillips screwdriver handy when casting though.


I’ve had lee moulds that work perfect out of the box. I’ve also had some that didn’t drop easy and needed burrs removed. I’ve also had spruce cutters that needed sharpening to keep from tearing or jumping the bump. And I’ve had spruce cutter pivots strip out and require repair. I’ve had handles come loose during casting, I’ve had handle pivot pins drop out during casting and require restaking. And I’ve had the old style alignment pins back out during casting. And, finally, like everyone else... I remind myself what a “good value for the money” they are. Guess I like activation, cause I keep using them.

toallmy
06-05-2021, 02:29 AM
I have found lee molds to be a wonderful piece of equipment to learn mold maintenance and repair with , as well as what to do & what not to do to a mold .
So I would remove the sprue plate and resurface the top of the blocks and the bottom of the sprue plate , after reassembly pay special attention to applying lube around the sprue plate screw , top of the blocks , and bottom of the plate .
Galling seams to do quite a bit of damage to aluminum molds .

Tatume
06-05-2021, 07:59 AM
Most of my molds are aluminum, made by Accurate or Lee. They are all going strong after many tens of thousands of perfectly good bullets cast.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-05-2021, 08:24 AM
Thanks for the information Jon. I received an email from Lee stating that the two molds that I’m talking about not having vent lines like the other Lee molds I have say there are fine and to go ahead and use them. However they did not answer my question about them being a old or new design.
Those of you who have Lee molds like JonB and Tatume are these an old design? You are both right they appear to be vent lines but they sure are small.
It just seems odd that if they are an old design that they would still be in stock.

Lee changed the mold block design of the 2 cavity mold in 2013. The mold in your photo has the new "post-2013" mold block design.
I assume that's what you are asking about, as opposed to boolit design?

here is a photo of the old block design, it has horizontal alignment pins instead of pins that are 90º to mold face, like the new style.
https://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/images/products/detail/LeadDbl.Cav.BulletMold.jpg

Carrier
06-05-2021, 07:45 PM
Well got to casting with those two new molds and they cast pretty decent bullets. They both have right hand threads for the sprue plate unlike the left hand threads on all the other Lee molds I have but they don’t seem to come loose like the left hand ones always do.