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Rickf1985
05-29-2021, 09:08 AM
I have been looking for a burner and something I thought would be an easy find used is impossible to find. I see them listed new but there are so many that I don't know where to start. I can see some are obviously nothing more than stove burners in a frame and probably way to light duty. Prices are also all over the board. I can fab up a pot frame to hold the weight of the pot, I just need a decent burner. I am not looking to do 1000 lbs. at a time, 250 lbs. max probably.

para45lda
05-29-2021, 09:13 AM
I've been using a beefed up turkey fryer. My fish cooker burner wasn't hot enough.

I've got my eye open for an old plumber's pot.

Good luck

Wes

MOA
05-29-2021, 09:23 AM
I got a turkey fryer on Amazon.

https://i.postimg.cc/nzMrf2yG/20140517_091649.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGS4wf7r)

contender1
05-29-2021, 09:34 AM
I didn't need it,, but I recently bought a used, complete turkey frying outfit, in it's box, at Goodwill for $15. All it needed was to have the pot, the strainer & all that had been used cleaned. The inside of the pot was pretty clean,, but the outside had dried grease on it. But the burner & stand etc,, perfect condition. Heck, even the instructions were still in the box.
I have bought a few over the years at yard sales & Goodwill, for myself & others. Look for the ones with heavy legs etc to support the weight. I currently have 4-5 burners. Of course,, I also cook stuff in my pots etc. I have cast iron for my lead!

You just have to be willing to do a little hunting around. Yard sales & thrift stores often get such things.

NyFirefighter357
05-29-2021, 09:51 AM
I got a turkey fryer on Amazon.

https://i.postimg.cc/nzMrf2yG/20140517_091649.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XGS4wf7r)

One of my burners is like this one. I added vertical supports along the back of the legs through the existing bolts between the bottom & top rings making each leg more like an obtuse triangle.

I also found a NIB burner with solid pencil steel type legs.

From what I see online, you can probably get a decent unit for about the same price of just a burner. You might also want to pay attention to how many BTU's the burner you choose is. Also you might find a wind screen that directs the heat better to your pot very effective & efficient.

I also think you want to go over 60K BTU's

https://www.google.com/search?q=Heavy+duty+Propane+burner+&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiKl5-Bgu_wAhWNNt8KHeCxB1gQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=Heavy+duty+Propane+burner+&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQDDIECCMQJzIECAAQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABA IEB4yBggAEAgQHlDvtglY77YJYMDFCWgAcAB4AIABkwGIAZMBk gEDMC4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&sclient=img&ei=IkSyYIr-H43t_Abg457ABQ&bih=937&biw=1225&client=firefox-b-1-d&hl=en#imgrc=fIsHTWVrmx6EsM

Dusty Bannister
05-29-2021, 09:57 AM
Going back through some of threads came across one where a member suggested a particular maker. Here is a link that will show you several different burners that may presently be available. Key factors are a wide base to be stable, and a strong base to avoid collapse when hot. Beyond that, look for the red valve on the pressure regulator. If it is gray, it is low pressure and may not get hot enough for your needs. If two are about the same, but one rated for more BTU, buy the larger capacity. You do not need to run it full open, but if you ever do need it, you already have the capability. Follow the safety suggestions and avoid the aluminum pots.

https://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-SP1-Jet-Cooker/dp/B0002913MI/ref=sr_1_29?dchild=1&keywords=Jet+type+turkey+fryer&qid=1613660716&sr=8-29

Cast_outlaw
05-29-2021, 10:51 AM
I just use my roofing torch but a tiger torch would work to

bimus
05-29-2021, 11:00 AM
A burner out of a propane water heater will work

Burnt Fingers
05-29-2021, 11:16 AM
Crab cooker or turkey fryer.

You might/should strengthen the legs if you're going to do 250 lbs.

Kraschenbirn
05-29-2021, 11:19 AM
10-12 years ago, found an old, rusty (antique?) 2-burner plumber's furnace at a builder's salvage yard for (IIRC?) $25. Cleaned it up and converted from LP to natural gas by changing out burner orifices. Been using it, along with an $12 dutch oven from a yard sale ever since.

Bill

richhodg66
05-29-2021, 12:54 PM
I ue wood fire and an old Dutch oven.

Jeffrey
05-29-2021, 01:19 PM
Bimus beat me to it. Check with a home store for a contractor / plumber changing out a gas fired water heater. The contractor / plumber may let you pull the burner from the old water heater for a pizza, case of beer or even a "thank you".

Der Gebirgsjager
05-29-2021, 01:24 PM
I bought my current burner from Sportsman's Guide about 7 years ago. It's pretty sturdy, and I think they had in mind for it to be used for outdoor cooking. They still advertise them once in awhile. I take it outside my shop and hook up the hose, regulator, and propane tank and it does a great job.

DG

Huskerguy
05-29-2021, 02:52 PM
I have two friends with turkey cookers. Get one that sets the burner up a bit higher, saves on your back.

I have a plumbers melting set up and it works ok, doesn't get too hot for sure. It is much slower at getting up to heat and melting large amounts of range scrap. I use it if I have smaller amounts to melt down.

fc60
05-29-2021, 02:57 PM
Greetings,

I bought a Nolan LinoType ReMelter. Holds 600 pounds and runs on three phase power. It has a drain that enters a trough, like a cement truck, to fill the ingot moulds. Oh yes, I did get three LinoType moulds with the ReMelter.

It looks the same as this one...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/a86MbzTO9sCz_foZaBYpXetqEd-xpdzbhLGvglmZWFXbbQZSXZo5yAbr4ARSOim_Le-QGUxq-PbCmrIMOUQuPs3yP6ta7My-ovcj6-j5lk-p

Cheers,

Dave

rockrat
05-29-2021, 03:27 PM
Turkey fryer and a dutch oven. Can do about 150 lbs at a time. Have a 15 gal. propane tank from a forklift I am planning on cutting in two. Should do about 300 lbs then, but will use two turkey fryer burners, for the support and the amount of heat I will need.

Rickf1985
05-29-2021, 05:12 PM
Thanks for all the quick replies. I was looking at the Bayou stuff and they seem to have quality equipment. I did notice where it said that one of them "will get hot enough to melt stuff............. Don't do it, just don't". Is that the disclaimer that they are covered if you roast yourself using one of their burners to melt lead? :roll:
The stand is not really a problem since I will build one to go over/around the burner no matter what I get. I do NOT want a bucket of lead falling over on me. My left thumb is made up of skin from my butt due to a tipped over small pot and it poured right on my hand! I was 14 at the time and surprisingly you cannot tell it ever happened. It healed quite well. Of coarse that was 50 plus years ago. I had the lead cast of my thumb for a long time but it got lost in one of my many moves.

lightman
05-29-2021, 07:25 PM
I built mine from some scrap angle, a 1/2" pipe nipple and a valve. Having a propane hose made cost more than the rest of it.

chambers
05-29-2021, 07:27 PM
Turkey fryer, best value. I have a 13" wide diameter x 12" tall stainless pot with turkey fryer bottom pour and sliding tray assembly to pour, run about 1/2 5 gallon bucket at a time of wheel weights when I was doing them and skim off the top and keep filling up, could do about 1000# in a short period. Smokey and best done outdoors.

Oaks&Pines
05-29-2021, 09:17 PM
283695

This is what I use, auction find, lots of heat and with a good wind shield works well enough for me.
Made by Goss inc.

samari46
05-29-2021, 11:58 PM
I use a wally world turkey/crawfish setup. That an a old dutch oven that holds about 100lbs. I do have the old plumbers burner and pot though. Only problem is that the burner screws on top of a threaded fitting on the top of a 30 gallon propane tank. Haven't seen any propane tanks so equipped in years. That puppy actually had to be turned down to melt wheel weights. All it does is gather dust and rust now. Frank

John Boy
05-30-2021, 11:45 AM
Cast iron pot and a 30,000 BTU weed torch
https://www.harborfreight.com/propane-torch-91033.html?cid=paid_google%7C*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29%7CShop+Press%7C91033&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29&utm_content=Shop+Press&gclid=Cj0KCQjw78yFBhCZARIsAOxgSx3RGB_ZLLkek6QMMdEE aE-hjAywVpHB8dLfxJ537UJPCnEA0v0Ljp8aAiXsEALw_wcB

kevin c
05-31-2021, 12:48 AM
What I use:

https://www.bayouclassicdepot.com/products/sp40-bayou-classic-double-jet-propane-burner

What I learned:

Lots of BTUs help, but a good wind screen and some sort of heat retaining/insulating jacket around the pot help even more.

Cosmic_Charlie
05-31-2021, 07:47 AM
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/backyard-pro-stainless-steel-single-burner-outdoor-patio-stove-range/554BPSS16.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjwktKFBhCkARIsAJeDT0jgqcTL5vhB80XojboY 2wYin4cTP_8zYANbHOT-47zwnZ-R-hGmA88aArSBEALw_wcB

I have one like this but it is not stainless and was around $40. I bought a round bottom air tank pot from a member that is easy to ladle out of and heats quickly. I use a small cast iron ladle that holds about a pound and a half of lead and a couple of Lyman ingot molds.

lwknight
06-09-2021, 10:49 PM
A brewery supply is one of the best places to get burners of all sizes. Beer batches are usually 35 gallon drums so they have some serious burners.

farmbif
06-10-2021, 10:12 AM
agrisupply sells all kinds of burners, regulators and hoses and even all kinds of cast iron cookware, last time I was in one of the stores prices seemed pretty cheap.

gwpercle
06-10-2021, 09:06 PM
Louisiana ... lots of Crawfish , Shrimp and Crabs get boiled in big pots of water .
Deep Fried Turkey are a staple of Holiday cooking .
Every Hardware Store sells Propane boiling and frying rigs ... get one that has the word Jet Burner or Double Jet burners ... Yankee's don't know what crawfish are much less how to boil seafood .
I like Bayou Classic pots and burners ( high pressure Jet Burners are good) see their stuff
www.bayouclassicdepot.com
My HP Jet burner will melt down a large Dutch Oven of scrap lead in just a few minutes and will have a 82 quart pot of cold water boiling in 30 minutes for seafood boil .
Gary

William Yanda
06-11-2021, 06:51 AM
A burner out of a propane water heater will work

I would recommend selecting a cast iron rather than stamped steel burner if you go this route.

gunther
06-11-2021, 11:22 AM
Small stainless or cast iron pot, flat bottom is best; a heavy duty pie pan cut to be a skirt for the pot; electric hot plate. All yard sale or recycled items. Use another pie pan for a pot cover during melting.

Liberty1776
06-30-2021, 05:30 PM
Here's my writeup of acquiring and modifying a restaurant supply burner.

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?376383-Here-s-My-Big-Burner-Melting-Setup-(At-Least-For-Me)&highlight=

I got the burner for $60 Feb, 2019. It's now $78. (June, 2021) at
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/backyard-pro-outdoor-range-patio-stove-with-hose-guard-210-000-btu/554BPHP17.html

285413

Should have more thoroughly searched the local thrift stores for a turkey fryer.

Conditor22
06-30-2021, 05:43 PM
I got my turkey frier at a garage sale, you don't need a kazillion BTU to smelt lead, just a little patience.

Post #30 looks like a really nice burner

Bird
06-30-2021, 06:43 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Commercial-Tips-Jet-Burner-Natural/dp/B008HTCMSY/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Tips+Jet+Burner&qid=1625092905&s=home-garden&sr=1-2

JSnover
07-01-2021, 08:37 AM
https://www.amazon.com/King-Kooker-Propane-Outdoor-Package/dp/B07YSV5WFJ/ref=psdc_2474790011_t3_B0002913MI
This is the one I bought back in the 90s. It supports 8 quarts of lead, probably more but I'm not processing as much as some guys.

FISH4BUGS
07-01-2021, 02:56 PM
Many years ago I purchased a Buffalo Arms Burner. 60k BTU's.
https://www.buffaloarms.com/60-000-btu-single-burner-propa-63-6000.html
Easily holds 100 lbs of lead.
Cheap? No.
I have been using it for many years.
I even lend it to a friend that makes his own moonshine every year. :)

Bigslug
07-04-2021, 11:53 PM
If the Satan's Little Smelter people are still producing, their design is top notch. If not, the vids are still out there and the pattern is worth following. It's A LOT safer and less tiring than working a cast iron pot with a ladle, possibly over a stand not really designed to handle the weight.