Pyrodex Pellets in 44 WCF

[Tar Heel]

Having several boxes of Pyrodex pellets on hand for the 44 caliber C&B revolvers, I decided to go ahead and try them out in some BPCR cartridges – namely the 44 WCF. I have read a few articles regarding loading cartridges with the pellets but was hesitant to do so based on the time honored rule of never leaving an airspace when using black powder or Pyrodex propellant. When I used these in the C&B revolvers, the ball was firmly seated onto the pellet and very little airspace was apparent surrounding the pellet. When these pellets are dropped into a cartridge case, the flop around in there and despite the assurances of both Hodgdon and authors like John Taffin and Mike Venturino to name a few, I was still reluctant.

My curiosity got the better of me so I ended up loading up a few test loads for the 44 WCF and fired them off in the Uberti 1873 revolver. As Mike Venturino indicated in his article1, muzzle velocity was respectable with my loads clocking in at 887.7 fps with a SD of 32.6 fps. The report and recoil were stiffer than black powder and muzzle flash was brilliant out of the 4.75” barrel. They all went bang and no issues were detected whatsoever with the load. Case ejection was normal and primers looked fine. Lots of bullet lube is suggested with this load and black powder loads so I think a new Accurate BP mold is in the works for the 44 WCF later this year.

If you have been hesitant about loading the Pyrodex pellets in your revolver cases, it seems that the pellets work just fine. I am still jittery about loading them into 45-70 cases but perhaps in the near future I may test that as well.


https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/ammunition_hodgdon_0728/100508

1Mike Venturino, “Using Hodgdon's Pyrodex Pellets For Cowboy Action Handloads”, Shooting Times, Jan 4, 2011

[Tar Heel]

This thread is amazing! All the replies are stunning! I took a shower this morning......eeesh.

[DAVIDMAGNUM]

I just saw the post. I think one problem with the lack of replies is the work PYRODEX. There are some passionate opinions about the stuff.
I am glad it worked for you. The 44WCF is easily my favorite cartridge.

[Tar Heel]

Well there are two of us alive! :-)

[Walks]

Nope, 2 1/2. I vacillate between .44WCF and .44SPL, even have some SA's with cylinders for both. Depends what's in my hand at the time.
I've tried the Pyrodex 30gr pellets in .44-40 with an OX-Yoke Wonder Wad. Shot fine in a 7 1/2" Revolver and 20"/24" Carbine and Rifle respectively.
Accurate make a nice #44-205C molds that holds plenty of Lube for BP shooting.

Pyrodex is all you can buy in Los Angeles County.

[Tar Heel]

Nope, 2 1/2. I vacillate between .44WCF and .44SPL, even have some SA's with cylinders for both. Depends what's in my hand at the time.
I've tried the Pyrodex 30gr pellets in .44-40 with an OX-Yoke Wonder Wad. Shot fine in a 7 1/2" Revolver and 20"/24" Carbine and Rifle respectively.
Accurate make a nice #44-205C molds that holds plenty of Lube for BP shooting.

Pyrodex is all you can buy in Los Angeles County.

Accurate has about 4 44-40 BP molds that all look alike. I'll have to pull the spec sheets on them to see the difference among them.

I have never had any problems whatsoever with Pyrodex either in powder form or with the pellets. If you clean your gun like you do with black powder, all is fine. I have several packages of pellets due to working at a large retail store where they were sold. They allowed customers to return the pellets when they discovered they had bought the wrong thing. I got them for a song that way. Now I have a good use for them in the 44 cartridges.

If Pyrodex is all one can get, the answer is simple! Shoot it.

[RyanJames170]

i know this is a old thread but glad i ran into this as it will provide a good use for some pellets i have laying around,

[TD1886]

i know this is a old thread but glad i ran into this as it will provide a good use for some pellets i have laying around,

Triple Seven is much better, little more power, far less corrosive, far less fouling. In my opinion Pyrodex sucks.

[RyanJames170]

Triple Seven is much better, little more power, far less corrosive, far less fouling. In my opinion Pyrodex sucks.

I have some pyrodex around, I prefer actual BP myself.

[TD1886]

I have some pyrodex around, I prefer actual BP myself.

I don't and I'll tell you why. First Pryrodex burns hotter then BP and more corrosive. I'm not going to go into the specifics. I've tested it extensively for years. I've also tested Triple Seven pretty thoroughly. I let my ROA Stainless set for 3 weeks after shooting it using 777 in a humid basement. No corrosion and the only thing I saw was beads of water on it. Then I went ahead and cleaned it. Did this to a new blues Pietta 1860 so and same thing except no water beads. Now I only spray it down after shooting with WD 40 thoroughly and it's been setting like that for a long time. I check it regularly. Am I telling you or others to do this? NO! Just telling you what I do. I am telling you 777 is the best out of them all UNLESS your really enjoy using BP. I use to be like that, but frankly anymore I don't like taking the guns apart to clean them. Why I don't convert them to cartridge guns and shoot smokeless I don't know.