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NyFirefighter357
05-04-2021, 06:14 PM
World Record Open Sight Shot 2240 yards Ernest Jimenez Unmodified K31 Swiss - 7.5×55mm Swiss

Shooter sets iron sight world record with 2240 yard shot

Ernie Jimenez used an unmodified K31 Swiss 7.5x55mm Swiss rifle to set the official Guiness World Record for longest open sight shot.

He was aiming at a 36″ pink buffalo target 2240 yards away.

For this incredible shot, Ernie used 190 grain Sierra Match King rounds firing at 2470 fps.

It takes dozens of shots, but Ernie managed to strike the target four times.

https://youtu.be/eqwG2caxNo8

charlie b
05-04-2021, 07:59 PM
That was done in 2015. Don't know if anyone has tried to beat it or not.

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DougGuy
05-04-2021, 08:17 PM
Save the tatas? Nice shooting!

cwtebay
05-05-2021, 12:25 AM
Wow!

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stubshaft
05-05-2021, 02:16 PM
Great shooting.

0verkill
05-18-2021, 04:53 PM
One more reason to keep my K-31.

john.k
05-18-2021, 07:40 PM
In fact I find this hard to believe......the British army fired at targets at 3200yds ,and scored a certain number of hits in the 1890s.....this was using the long range sight on the side of the rifle ,which counts as iron sights IMHO......and Ive no doubt every army did long distance firing trials with their new small bore rifles in the 1890s.

RU shooter
05-25-2021, 01:11 PM
I don't know , I know what a 36" black Bullseye target looks like at 600 yds with open sights and it's not very big ! Same 36" at 2240 yds . He may have scored a hit but I have a hard time believing that was his aiming point at that range, can't hit what you can't see

Adam Helmer
05-25-2021, 06:35 PM
I had to laugh when I read the OP said, "It takes dozens of shots." OK, I get it, a guy "shoots until he hits."

That is what I would call, "Good Shooting" by the dozen... How many dozens was that? LOL.

Adam

green mountain boy
05-27-2021, 01:30 PM
and i had the same thought....so i guess i can take my K-31 and go shoot at a mile untill i hit it and proclaim that i am the best cast shooter in the world? i dont think so !!

Adam Helmer
05-30-2021, 12:43 PM
green mountain boy,

It was a jacketed 190 grain Sierra Match King bullet and not a cast boolit for the "volley fire" in this example. Take your K31 and a wheelbarrow full of ammo and "shoot until you hit." LOL.

Be Well.

Adam

35 Whelen
05-30-2021, 11:46 PM
I had to laugh when I read the OP said, "It takes dozens of shots." OK, I get it, a guy "shoots until he hits."

That is what I would call, "Good Shooting" by the dozen... How many dozens was that? LOL.

Adam


and i had the same thought....so i guess i can take my K-31 and go shoot at a mile untill i hit it and proclaim that i am the best cast shooter in the world? i dont think so !!

If either of you have ever shot at extended ranges, you'd understand that the difficult part is doping the wind. I've a 600 yd. range here at the house and that's as far as I've shot. Due to the way my property is situated I had to lay it out east/west, and our prevailing with is from the south. So even at that relatively short range, if I misjudge the 90° wind by 5 mph it calculates into roughly a 15" error in impact at that range, using the 190 gr. Sierra bullet. And doesn't include variables such as if the wind shifts, or decreases or increases. If the fella that set the record misjudged a similar crosswind by 5 mph at 2200+ yds., then we're talking a 21 FOOT shift in POI. And that doesn't even take into consideration such things as shooting the rifle properly.

Your average trigger yanker, self included, would do good to get a bullet to hit within 100' of a target at that range.

35W

WinchesterM1
06-01-2021, 02:36 PM
I have shot with him in Piru Ca, he is an amazing shot!

Earlwb
06-01-2021, 09:37 PM
That is some super fine shooting done by that fellow. I think that the Boers during the Boer Wars with the UK might have matched him in range or even beat him. But they didn't have Guiness Records at the time. Here is a story about the Boer Sharpshooters making hits at amazing ranges. They used 7mm Mausers for most of it too.The British just weren't prepared or equipped to counter it.
ref https://bjmh.gold.ac.uk/article/download/592/714/

I should add that anyone successful at hitting their target at these extreme ranges has some incredible eyesight. Almost like having a optical scope built into their eyes. I remember when I was young using iron sights, I thought it was hard to see the targets at the 1,000 meter range when I was in the USMC at the time. I probably couldn't see them today.

444ttd
06-02-2021, 10:23 AM
ppphhhhhttttttt!!!! 2240 yards, why i can shoot that blindfolded with both of my hands are tied behind my back!!!!!! now 6000 yards is what you would challenging, 12,000 yards is what i use on a daily basis!!!!


great shootin!!!!!!!!



i'm just babbling on, no need for youse to read it.


i shot 1200 meters(1300 yards) with a m60e3(7.62x51) at three 1/2 man targets. i got them, after 4 or 5 times(9ish rounds=1 time)[smilie=l: wish i was 18 or 19yo again.......

when i was 30ish yo, i fired my friend's 1917 enfield '06 at 1000 yards(my best 6 out of 10 rounds where on the 44" black circle(3 or 4 rounds was average fer me)

when i was 41-42yo, i did a 22-250ai with a 75gr bullet at 600 yards(it was a field behind my shop) and it averaged 4" or 5" group(10 shots) with a 24x scope.


i am happy with a 3" group(5 shots) at 100-150 yards with cast boolits. a 2" group, then i'm beyond happy. a 1" group, then i'm ecstatic!!!!

maybe thats why i hunt? i used to be a guy that hated anything over a inch at 100 yards(scoped of course;) ), but as i got older(not wiser, def. NOT wiser) and i got into cast boolits, i guess my limits have changed, or my eyes:veryconfu. i do low power(6x and under) scopes and aperture sights. i can't do iron sights, there is something about my eyes that can no longer do three things at once (back sight, front sight and the deer/target). no way!!! nope!!! not my eyes!!!!!! i don't need no optometrist!!! no sir!!!

Jim22
06-02-2021, 12:52 PM
A Lead Sled with 75 lbs of steel on it to keep recoil off his shoulder. How many people have done that and broken the rifle stock through the wrist?

444ttd
06-02-2021, 03:24 PM
A Lead Sled with 75 lbs of steel on it to keep recoil off his shoulder. How many people have done that and broken the rifle stock through the wrist?

he doesn't have the rifle strapped down on the lead sled. if he did, he'd be replacing the stock. i use a lead sled with 45-50lbs of sandbags put on it. i use the lead sled for trying new loads.

Castaway
06-02-2021, 04:37 PM
john.k, the purpose of the long range sight was for a unit to provide plunging fire on an enemy at a distance. Developed before practical machine guns, the sights continued to be standard into the 20th century. Imagine a regiment on line, using indirect/plunging fire at a designated target 1500 meters or further down-range. In theory it’s devastating but haven’t come across any references where it was used effectively, or even used at all

Earlwb
06-02-2021, 05:21 PM
john.k, the purpose of the long range sight was for a unit to provide plunging fire on an enemy at a distance. Developed before practical machine guns, the sights continued to be standard into the 20th century. Imagine a regiment on line, using indirect/plunging fire at a designated target 1500 meters or further down-range. In theory it’s devastating but haven’t come across any references where it was used effectively, or even used at all

I remember some WWII veterans telling me about some of their battles in the Pacific. When the Japanese massed and started their suicide charges, they would start firing at around 1200 yards or more. The machine guns would kick in at around 800 yards or so. But volley fire pretty much died out after WWI. After millions of solders were killed doing mass charges through artillery fire, barb wire and machine gun fire. The military leaders finally figured it out that it didn't work very well. When I think about it, the Germans and Russians probably were using long range volley/plunging fire due to the long open steppes they were fighting in. I do also remember some of the guys talking about how their M4's were being out ranged by the AK47's in Afghanistan and Iraq. Where the enemy would stay out around 800 yards or so to take pot shots at them. All they had were M4's for the most part and it had their officers scrambling to find sniper rifles or M14's to use against them.

But the various militaries sure did love to include those extra long range sights on their rifles though. I think it wasn't until the 1960's that they quit putting them on the rifles.

I always wondered if those anti-aircraft sights on the Japanese rifles actually worked to hit an airplane.

Capt.Red.44
06-02-2021, 05:23 PM
Castaway... I may be a hair off topic. But almost all Naval gunfire is plunging fire through WW2. Same principle though, rifled barrel, projectile and powder, elevation hold. Devastatingly effective. See sinking the Bismark and the running battle that it took to bring it down.

Finster101
06-02-2021, 05:33 PM
It may have taken him dozens of rounds but I couldn't do it given hundreds of rounds.

Castaway
06-02-2021, 06:43 PM
Capt.Red.44, you are right, and so is the fire from artillery pieces. No argument there. I’m talking about 2,000 riflemen dropping lead bullets over hills or into defilade positions from a distance that point accuracy isn’t practical. Whether from single shots or a SMLE at rapid fire, it would take the morale of the bad guys down a peg or two

Larry Gibson
06-03-2021, 09:48 AM
Interesting........

But 58 shots to 1st hit......a "world record"...........:rolleyes:

waksupi
06-03-2021, 11:59 AM
With that many shots, were I doing it, I would call those fortunate fliers without a lot of skill involved on my part.

Txcowboy52
06-03-2021, 12:20 PM
That would be an incredible shot with optics ! I can't even see that far, lol.