Anyone else keep bees?

[ryanmattes]

A couple years ago a coworker started telling me he wanted to keep bees. I wouldn't have thought much of it, but he was actively moving forward with having bees. He was going to keep the out at his family's land in Nacogdoches, which is about a 3 hour drive from Dallas where we both live. I told him I was much closer, only 30-40 minutes away, and had the space, so why not keep them here?

So that spring he set up three hives and started keeping bees in the pasture behind my house. We, and I say we because I started doing hive maintenance for him since he could only get over here every other week or so, did pretty well. The hives flourished, produced lots of honey, and seemed to be doing well. It kept me in honey (yum!) and beeswax (which I used for casting and lubing), and was really low effort.

The cold snap we had in February was worse than anyone expected, and killed all the hives. So we started again this spring, with all new packages of bees, and are basically starting over.

The bees are doing great this year do far, already producing honey and brood, and I look forward to many more productive seasons.

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[fixit]

Apiary work is fascinating! Once upon a time, I had dreams of having a hive or two. The rigid pecking order that exists in the bee world must be witnessed to fully appreciated!

[zarrinvz24]

I find this very interesting as well, what an amazing adventure that must have been. If this question is ignorant, apologies in advance: I've heard that killer bee's is the result of a virus that is slowly working its way through hives in North America. Is that something that one would need to be concerned with while raising a hive?

[farmerjim]

I have 4 now. I lost one to the cold. I caught 3 swarms in my swarm traps last year, but none this year. I gave one of the swarms to my friend who let me put the swarm traps on his property. His hive swarmed this spring. I got the swarm into a nuc, but they left and went to a swarm trap about 50 yds away. I have the hive at my place and will move it back to his place, (3 miles away) in a couple of days.

I see a bunch of drone cells there.

Bees are a lot of work, especially in the heat of the summer.

[farmerjim]

I find this very interesting as well, what an amazing adventure that must have been. If this question is ignorant, apologies in advance: I've heard that killer bee's is the result of a virus that is slowly working its way through hives in North America. Is that something that one would need to be concerned with while raising a hive?-

No problem, Just kill the Queen and re-queen the hive with a mated queen . In 6 weeks all the worker bees have died and been replaced with the new queens workers.

There are now (killer) Africanized bees all over the South.
The new threats to the bees are Varroa mites that spread viruses, and small hive beetles that lay there eggs in the hive and their larvae destroy the comb and honey.

[Plate plinker]

I don’t keep bees, but I do like bee juice! Love watching them work over the flowers, bees are amazing.

[reloader28]

I have a 4 box hive that is brim full of honey I got from a friend. The bees died for some reason, so I need to get some more.
He also gave me an electric extracter and said he has a cooler full of honey filled frames somewhere in his stuff. Hes just finishing moving so when he finds it I'll spin out the whole batch and see if I can still get some bees

[cephas53]

NWPA here. Any suggestions on how to protect the hives from black bears?

[jim147]

NWPA here. Any suggestions on how to protect the hives from black bears?

Electric fence.

[contender1]

Many years ago, some in my family kept bees. My Dad decided he wanted to get some, and we had a few hives. Sadly, the very first year of us getting some EXCELLENT, top quality Sourwood honey, (my Dad's favorite) he was unable to enjoy it. He was hospitalized & passed before he had the chance.
We let a friend get our bees after that.
But I've always remembered that, and thought how I'd like to get a few hives & such.

Black bears can & will destroy hives to get the honey.

Locally, we have a lot of bears, and it is a problem. As an Animal Damage Control Agent, I usually have folks build a PAIR of electric fences around their hives. Crank them up as high as they can, spaced about 1 ft apart, to where a bear has a seriously hard time trying to get into the hive area. Make sure the inner fencing is at least about 6'-8' away from all sides of the hives.

[memtb]

We only have two hives, which wintered quite well. We plan on doing a split soon. Our goal is 8 hives. Figuring that 8, gives us a good base to rebuild from, should we loose some for whatever reason the bees decide to die off!

Our bees don’t really produce much honey. As in real estate.....location, location, location! We average only about 4”to 5” precipitation annually.....which doesn’t give the bees a lot of flowers/blooms to work with. memtb

[bakerjw]

I have a hive. Several years ago I bought some bees from a shyster. He took a lot of peoples money including mine and I filed a claim against him with the state authorities. There is little I hate more than someone knowingly taking money when they have no product to deliver.

Anyways, I still have the hive and occasionally we get swarms in the area. I might get a swarm trap to put out and see if I can attract one.

Bees are a ruthless species. Workers will work the hive for the first few weeks of life and then start collecting nectar and pollen for the hive. when they die... Kicked out the entrance... Ruthless...

A former friend of mine used to raise them too. He said that a lot of beekeepers would put their hives on scales and weight them regularly. In peak flower time, they'd gain most of their weight in honey in a few weeks.

Gotta get this show started again.

They make mite filters where the mites shake off of bees when they enter or leave the hive. And Africanized bees are a genetic variety with a predisposition for aggression. My friends hive had a bee or 2 that were very aggressive. He caught it and sent it off to be tested. I can't recall if it had African DNA in it or not. But you can always kill the queen and start with a new one once she is properly introduced.

[EMC45]

My Dad keeps bees in Middle GA. He started about 6-7 years ago. He sells his honey and I get beeswax from time to time.

[bakerjw]

Alright... Now you've all gone and done it.

I have some lemongrass oil on it's way to try to capture a wild swarm...

[James Wisner]

Bees can be fun, and yes a lot of work also.
Dad started having bees back in the late 60's but lost his few hives to foul brood in the early 70's, what a nasty thing.

I started back in the bees in the early 1990's when we bought a piece of larger property, and when I got out in 2001 I had 48 hives, my back simply could not take it any more.

I think it was in 2000 I took in 70 gallons of honey in 4 varietys of blooms, white clover, wild berries, carrot, and mixed, amazing what differrent color and taste you can get and see depending on the flower bloom.

J Wisner

[TimD]

NWPA here. Any suggestions on how to protect the hives from black bears?

45-70 ?

[ryanmattes]

Great to hear about others doing it too!

When my coworker first started he set up 3 hives and installed packages in them. They did great the first year, got up to 4-5 boxes each. The next year one hive died. We think we probably rolled the queen at some point, digging around in there, and the timing was bad so they didn't replace her. The cost of learning on the job.

He was planning to split both hives this year, as soon as it got warm enough, but then that cold snap happened, and we just weren't prepared for a -14 degree wind chill. After it warmed up and we got in there to find out what happened, he got around 60lbs of honey.

We started 6 hives this spring from packages, 4 for him and 2 for me.

The property we're on has tons of mesquite, wild muscadine grapes, and blackberries. The honey we've gotten after the flow is noticably darker and more flavorful than what they produce while we were feeding them heavily.

When I have drawn comb that's not needed, or if we take honey, I make little pucks of raw wax for the casting pot or for making lube (just mixed with Vaseline).

It's been fun. It's definitely hot work in the summer here in Texas. But overall I haven't found them to be that much effort. Check on them a couple times a week, add boxes and address parasites as needed, and let them do what they do. We don't have any predators around here that go for honey, and the scavengers we have know better than to mess with a hive.

And my garden has looked excellent since we started keeping pollinators.
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[farmerjim]

ryanmattes
Do you wear a full suit, half suit. veil only, or nothing ?

I wear a full suit and still get stung from time to time. I wish I could do like most of the beekeepers on youtube and work with no protective gear.

[ryanmattes]

ryanmattes
Do you wear a full suit, half suit. veil only, or nothing ?

I wear a full suit and still get stung from time to time. I wish I could do like most of the beekeepers on youtube and work with no protective gear.

I wear a half suit, with my jeans tucked into my work boots. Before I got proper gloves I was just using work gloves like you get from home depot, and I got a few stings through the thin back of those.

Mostly, though, they're not very aggressive. We have Italian bees, except he got one package of Sasketraz this year (Canadian bees are better at handling cold snaps, eh?).

With the Italian bees they're really only aggressive when you're actively working inside the hive. Pretty much as soon as you put the cap on, you can walk right up to the hive in a t-shirt and they won't sting you.

And smoking the hives helps keep that aggression down. I believe we both got stung the one time we tried to do hive maintenance without a smoker. We now have several smokers, so we never have to do that again.

There's almost always someone out there with us with no protective gear on at all, usually just standing 10-15 feet away, and none of them have been stung yet.

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[memtb]

I haven’t tried the Sasketraz yet, but have Carnolians.....which seem to handle our winters just fine with little to no winter precautions, other than reduce the opening size! memtb

[Cast10]

Yessir

[rockrat]

Friend of mine had two hives. Real docile bees. He kept working the hives and found queen cells, so moved them, now he has 10 hives and is selling off the extra bees/queens. He offered a complete hive to me, and would love to have one, but I don't react well to a sting.

[bangerjim]

Would like to have a hive or 2 but living in town would raise a stink! I just paid to have a bee exterminator kill a nest under my storage shed of over 3+ thousand Africanized bees. Vicious little buggers. They would attack me 30 feet away and chase me in the house! Glad to see those things D_E_A_D! The ordinary honey bees we have in our nine citrus trees will fly right into your face and not even bother you. The trees, when in bloom in the spring, hum like big machines with all the thousands of bees busy with the citrus flowers.

[Handloader109]

My neighbor got into it two years ago. he dropped by the other day with a quart and some engraving work he wanted me to do. He said the exterminators about killed him last year. Arkansas law won't let them kill bees in a house, they have to be removed alive but the removal can't be paid to remove the bees. stupid law., he removed a bunch in eves and walls last year. one 25 feet up on second floor. He didnt lose any from the cold, but didn't want to add more hives.

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[Ural Driver]

I began last year with a single hive given to me by a nephew who has many, many hives. I plan on splitting that hive into others this year.

[Mitch]

I Got my fist hive 21 years ago.My Grandfather was a beekeeper.When my he Paaed my Dad and Grandma kep the bees for a long time.So i thing it runs in our blood.At one time i had 30+ hives.About 10 yras ago bees got hart for me to keep alive thru winter.Now i have 4 hives includeing the swarm a caught yesterday.The bad news is i had 11 hives going into winter and only 3 made it.I am hopeing to do a few splits and get them going again.I am 21 years older and do not want alot of hives now days but will allways have a few hives.Bees are like guns and casting lol adicting.Just like a great deal on lead or powder,there is now way you can not go catch that swam you see or someone calls you about.You think you are only going to have a few hives but they multipie fast.

For bears i read once that some would put up and electric fence and there bears would walk right thu it and never feel a thing from them have thick fur.The cure for this was sad to be half cook beacon so it is tuff and tie it to the electric fence.It was said the bears did not return.Imagin that.

Good luck to everyone in there beekeeping

[abunaitoo]

Over a year ago, I had a bee nest in a fan, in the back.
Had a cloth over the fan, big floor fan, and I guess the bees thought it was a good place for a home.
At first they didn't bother me, but I guess, as it got bigger, I couldn't see it, more bees started to swarm around.
I couldn't have it there.
Had the hardest time finding someone to come and get it.
I searched for weeks,and weeks.
Some crooks wanted ME to pay them to take it away.
I told those clowns, "why should I pay you, when a few cans of bee spray is so cheap"
I was ready to spray it and just so happened a guy that was doing fire ants eradication came by.
He works for the city, and a neighbor had a problem, so they treated the whole area.
He belonged to a bunch that has hives and saves bees.
He came later with his gang, and saved the hive.
Called later and told me the little honey they got was very good.
I'm just glad I didn't have to eradicate the hive.
Fan was trashed. It was a good fan.

[Mitch]

abunaitoo
sorry to here you had a bee probem they take up house most anywhere wanted or not.
Now for the removal part no crook there in my book it is like any other problem you may have. for some reason if you are a beekeper you are supose to be a carpenter or house handy man to and work for free to boot.I have had calls where onone wanted me to remove sideing eveing bricks and take out a hive of bees.Then pot everything back together just like it was for free.All that work takes alot of time.then they get all upset if i want a few bucks to cover the gas and a few buck for my time.I ma happy you found some one to take the bees and not chage you anything but i dont do it for frre and dotn chage alot either.Last time i checked a package of bees is 125 to 150 bucks and i only have to pic them up.they are going to have a queen and be ready to go.the swarm in your wall may not be all that great.you run the risk of not getting the queen that mkae more work or you just caught worthless bees.

For thoses of you that may be wanting some help removeing some unwanted bees.you can look online for a lacal beekepper that will do the work.the next best places to check would be the local ag office.Polices or Sheriff they would all have a list of beekeepers that would help youi out.

[C-dubb]

I had bees for a few years till the beatles invaded. The thing I miss most is how they improved my garden yields. Had the hives next to my garden and it really made a difference.

[Cast10]

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[quilbilly]

We do mason bees. This is their busy time with our Asian pears just finishing and apples just starting.