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DCB
04-16-2021, 09:19 AM
I am going to try and find a mold for .358 dia. bullets to shoot in a 35rem tube magazine.
Either a flat point or a round nose.
What do you recommend or use. do you load and what about gas checks?
Thanks Dave

racepres
04-16-2021, 09:25 AM
One thing... If that is a regular "twisted tube" Remington.. no amount of point is ever a problem, because the nose cannot sit against the primer of the one in front anyway.
I bring this up, because the 150 condom, Remington PSP, really is one of the best in my 357 Herrett, and the 35 Remingtons around here.
But, having heard really good things about the RCBS 200 FPGC, I will be trying that .. As You Should.
Pistol Bullets don't feed too good in my personal 35Rem, maybe because it is a bolt action.
Good Luck

Larry Gibson
04-16-2021, 09:35 AM
RCBS 35-200-FN and H4895.

DCB
04-16-2021, 10:02 AM
thanks should have listed the rifle.
Its a Marlin 336, tube magazine?
If I keep velocities under 1800 feet/ sec. I should not need a gas check?
Thanks

RickinTN
04-16-2021, 10:38 AM
RCBS 35-200-FN and H4895.

This is the gold standard bullet for the 35 Remington. I doubt you can get anywhere near 1,800 fps without a gas check. Get the gas check bullet and use them if nothing else but for insurance for your accuracy. 1,800 fps may be about the top velocity you can expect with a gas check and the proper powder, which Larry has made an excellent suggestion. One thing of importance....is it an older Marlin with Ballard rifling? or is it a later Marlin with Microgroove rifling?
Good Luck,
Rick

racepres
04-16-2021, 10:42 AM
RCBS 35-200-FN and H4895.
That is the One .. I should Know very soon!!!

thanks should have listed the rifle.
Its a Marlin 336, tube magazine?
If I keep velocities under 1800 feet/ sec. I should not need a gas check?
Thanks
IDK about that high!! I can't do it...
Brewer 12345, is sending me some Accurate 36-180L, plain base 180's to try, and I do Not anticipate going over about 1400 fps.. seems like a good place for me to be with such a boolit, providing it Feeds, which I really think it will..

Edit; Looking over the Accurate offerings, I am going to try to source a 140 to 160 grain Boolit. Plain Based. That will do double duty as a 35 Rem. "Fun Load", as well as a load for my 357 Mag(s), loaded in 38 Spl Brass.... Wish me luck!!!!

NEKVT
04-16-2021, 10:54 AM
RCBS 35-200-FN and H4895.

This is a sweet combo for the 35 Rem Marlins. I have a '52 with Ballard rifling and my son's is a micro groove. Best groups ave been at or just under the factory load level of 1900-2000fps. If a micro groove you will need a large enough diameter to tightly fill the grooves and a GC at 1800. A bit harder alloy or HT/water dropped helps too. Never tried a flatbase or unchecked boolit in the Ballard rifled 336.

DCB
04-16-2021, 11:06 AM
Thanks for all the info and insight.
Molds are pretty hard to get.
Thanks Larry Ill look for a rcbs 200gr. GC.

earlmck
04-16-2021, 12:37 PM
I really really like Lee's copy of that RCBS flat point 205 grain boolit. And they make it in the 6-cavity. That's what I've been running for several flavors of 35 Remington: Remington, Savage, and Marlin. Yep -- I've got a Savage 99 that was converted to 35 Rem.

imashooter2
04-16-2021, 04:38 PM
The RCBS 35-200-FN over 31.0 grains of Alliant RX7 makes 1,932 FPS average from my Marlin. 5 shot groups average right around an inch at 50 yards with an elbows rest and my tired old eyes.

RickinTN
04-16-2021, 07:09 PM
Although I haven't looked, I'm sure Tom at Accuratemolds.com has the RCBS 35-200 cataloged. I think you would want the diameter such that you could size to .360", at least I have to for my 35 Remington Marlins. Better to be a bit big than even a little too small. If you order from Tom you can usually have your mold, a most excellent product, inside of a couple of weeks. I don't expect there is a shortage at Tom's place.
Good Luck,
Rick

smkummer
04-16-2021, 08:14 PM
I like Lee’s 35-200 FP GC and 12 grains unique. I believe about 1500 FPS out of my waffle top Marlin 336. Very nice combination and very accurate. Easy on shoulder as well.

DCB
04-16-2021, 08:42 PM
Rickintn, They have a ton of molds. thanks for the comment. now i will have to figure out which one I want.

NyFirefighter357
04-17-2021, 07:25 AM
MP 640-160 Cramer these have the penta HP .360 PCed Plain base over Unique/Red Dot

https://i.imgur.com/VSt8I7e.jpg

DCB
04-17-2021, 02:08 PM
Look like some nice bullets what is the bullet weight?
Have you shot any deer with that bullet and how did it perform What Velocity do you get.
Thanks Dave

NyFirefighter357
04-17-2021, 05:14 PM
Look like some nice bullets what is the bullet weight?
Have you shot any deer with that bullet and how did it perform What Velocity do you get.
Thanks Dave

Those average 162Gr with the Penta & about 170gr without any HP. I can't hunt deer with a rifle here

hornady308
04-17-2021, 09:40 PM
I use the Ranch Dog bullet that was designed for the Marlin, the noe 359-190-rf, about 188gr, wcww, 35gr Benchmark and Fed LR primer. This bullet and load works well in my Marlin and a Model 14 Remington.

DCB
04-18-2021, 09:31 AM
Thanks, the ranch dog bullets, are they tumble lubed or powder coated.
what powder and size groups are you getting. Does your Marlin have micro grove rifling?
Dave

hornady308
04-21-2021, 08:54 PM
The Ranch Dog bullets are designed for tumble lubing, but I just lube it in a Lyman at .359" and cast from air-cooled wheel weights. Load with 35-36 gr IMR 3031 and a standard rifle primer. My Marlin was made in the early 80's and has the micro-grooves. These targets are fairly typical of the accuracy I get with this load.

281705
281706

DCB
04-21-2021, 09:17 PM
thanks for the reply

fatnhappy
04-21-2021, 10:28 PM
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50922506841_0cf33c7afa_z.jpg
Saeco 200 grainer.
I've had pretty good results with 35 grains of IMR 3031 in my microgroove, not that my eyes are as discerning with irons anymore.

Rodfac
04-30-2021, 10:31 PM
RCBS 35-200 GC FN, ACWW + 2% tin, sized 0.359" for a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. SR4759 works well giving 1600 - 1700 fps. Rod

GooseGestapo
05-02-2021, 08:59 PM
I’m running the RCBS .358 200gr FNGC (218gr w/check and SPG lube) at .360” .
Over 34.5gr of H4895, it gets 1,950fps at 2.5-3” from my Marlin M336C.
Over 39.0gr BLC2, it gets 2,050fps and under 2”. It’s a real deer slayer!
For a Marlin Microgroove barrel, sized diameter MUST be .360 or .361”...
When I bought my mold +/-10yrs ago, the Lee wasn’t available. Now I’d just get the Lee mold.

RU shooter
05-03-2021, 08:25 AM
Another vote for the Lee 200 or the ranch dog 190 both do very well with top end jacketed loads of 4895

Soundguy
05-03-2021, 10:39 AM
I use a lee C358-200-RF It is a .358 200gr fp gas check mold. Dual and 6 cavity numbers are: 90449 90016. I use the 90048 lee push thru sizer to attach my gas checks.

Works fantastic in my and my buddies marlin 336's.

Ps.. it's the bullet I use as my avatar.

rbuck351
05-03-2021, 12:38 PM
The rcbs 200 or the lee copy is my favorite boolit. I have used RL7,3031 and 4320 all with good success at around 1900 to 2000 fps. wcww and checked in an old M8 Rem gets about 2 1/2" at 100yds.

high standard 40
05-03-2021, 01:19 PM
RCBS 35-200-FN and H4895.

I'm going to agree with Larry. This combination in both of my 35 Remingtons is hard to beat.

DCB
05-03-2021, 01:30 PM
Thanks.

racepres
05-03-2021, 01:58 PM
The RCBS 35-200-FN over 31.0 grains of Alliant RX7 makes 1,932 FPS average from my Marlin. 5 shot groups average right around an inch at 50 yards with an elbows rest and my tired old eyes.

Pretty much where I ended up...31.2 gr of RE-7, because i have a powder dipper that throws that, reliably.. and in my bolt action Mauser, I am pretty much right at 2100 fps.. But, my Chrono is only about 10 feet in front of the muzzle..
Best part is... it seems to shoot better actually (slightly) than the 150 Remington pointy condom..pushing 2400 fps
Gonna be very hard to beat, as I cannot shoot better than either of those!!
Hope you enjoy as much as I have been!!!