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c0wb0y84
04-15-2021, 11:59 PM
I know now isn't the time to get into a new caliber but I've been wanting a 41 mag for some time now. So much so that I bought reloading dies a while back for a good price in anticipation of one day owning one. I'm pretty sure its normal to buy reloading dies for guns you don't own so that you'll have an excuse for buying the gun later on. Anyway I found a NM Blackhawk the other day at a pre-panic price and figured now was the time to pull the trigger. Only down side is trying to find brass/bullets/and/or a mold.

I'm patiently awaiting its arrival at the FFL but thought I'd get some advice on what mould or boolits to be looking for. It also has a hogue monogrip so I'll be looking to replace that when it comes in as well.

I'll update with pics when it gets in but until then just close your eyes and imagine what a 6.5" Blackhawk looks like and that's what this one looks like.

littlejack
04-16-2021, 12:44 AM
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Bravo, and congratulations. I've been shootin the .41 for 52 years. Great cartridge. Started with the Ruger BH w/4 5/8 barrel. Then about 1972, bought a S&W 57/6". Early last year, I bought a Ruger SBH Hunter w/ 7.5". Took a couple deer in the mid 70's with the 57. At that time, my load back then was 8 grains of Unique under the 410459 swc. Running about 1000 fps. 50 yards, shot through and through the doe just behind the front leg. She walked a few steps and fell over.
The Lyman 410459 swc is a very fine design. They've gone plum out of sight on flea-bay. I saw one there last week for 165.00. Normally you can pick one up for around 50.00. I also use the Ranch Dog 265 grain. Those are very hard to come by. Not being manufactured anymore. There are also some very good designs from vendors here on Castboolits. Componants are around, just hang in there, be patient and keep looking around.
Regards

Wheelguns 1961
04-16-2021, 12:52 AM
I shoot 2 different bullets in my blackhawk. The first is an mp-411 hammer. The large hp comes in at 215 grains, and it has a large meplat. The other comes from a NOE mold 411-237 WFN. This bullet is more like a LFN to me. When loaded in the crimp groove the c.o.l. is 1.695”, so it is long. I use the NOE bullet for hunting as it seems to have better long range accuracy for me. An interesting thing with my blackhawk, when I first got it, I thought that I may have had a bad chamber. When loaded with slower unique loads, it seemed to always throw one a little off the group. When I went to faster 2400 loads, everything tightened right up.

jetinteriorguy
04-16-2021, 06:30 AM
Check with SNS for bullets. I just picked up a thousand Hitech coated not too long ago. Given current prices they were very reasonable.

Tatume
04-16-2021, 06:59 AM
My 4-5/8" 41 Magnum Ruger NM Blackhawk is the most accurate single action revolver I've ever owned, and I've owned two Freedom Arms revolvers.

tigweldit
04-16-2021, 08:59 AM
I have been shooting the same Ruger Blackhawk .41 magnum since 1968. The only repair/updates have been Pachmeyer grips and a Beltmountain base pin. Love that super accurate old model. Glad I never sent it back to Ruger for the transfer bar upgrade. It's favorite load is Lyman 41032 210 grain with 8-10 grains of Unique. It will shoot through a large whitetail deer at 125+ yards (broadside) with wheel weight alloy. I have not found a load that this gun will not shoot with some degree of accuracy. Some loads are good, some are fantastic. Hope you have fun with your new .41.

Lefty Red
04-16-2021, 09:00 AM
No secret I think the 41 BH is the best thing since sliced bread!
Congratulations on your snag.

I have a couple sets of dies and stashing away some brass until I get another one.

The three I had, all shot the Lee 210gr boolit accurate. In the TL and lube groove design. Did mess around with some very heavy for caliber bullets (265gr) and Paco Kelly amounts of Blue Dot, and glad I still have a hand. Would have to recover my base pin a couple of times trying to get through a cylinder of that stuff!

Great pistol, great caliber. I will never let another slip by me. If this last run/shortage has taught me is that common calibers don’t mean poo and just stock up and keep the odd ball stuff.

Lefty

Texas by God
04-16-2021, 09:52 AM
The .41 Remington Magnum is my favorite powerful revolver round and the Blackhawk is a good home for it. My brothers and friends went nuts over the .44 Remington Magnum ( and I’ve had several) but I’ve always returned to the .41- love it. Every .41 user should have a Lee 410 TLSWC 210 mould to supplement the upper crust moulds- because they shoot great in every .41 that I’ve had. If the rain( thank God for it) lets up, I’ll shoot my 6.5” .41 Blackhawk TODAY.

MrWolf
04-16-2021, 11:11 AM
Try it with the grip before you decide to replace it. I went with a Hogue grip due to nerve damage in my right hand. I couldn't really shoot her until I replaced the grip. Now I love it. Deadly accurate and a joy to shoot. I don't cast for her yet.
Ron

dougader
04-16-2021, 11:38 AM
I know now isn't the time to get into a new caliber but I've been wanting a 41 mag for some time now. So much so that I bought reloading dies a while back for a good price in anticipation of one day owning one. I'm pretty sure its normal to buy reloading dies for guns you don't own so that you'll have an excuse for buying the gun later on. Anyway I found a NM Blackhawk the other day at a pre-panic price and figured now was the time to pull the trigger. Only down side is trying to find brass/bullets/and/or a mold.

I'm patiently awaiting its arrival at the FFL but thought I'd get some advice on what mould or boolits to be looking for. It also has a hogue monogrip so I'll be looking to replace that when it comes in as well.

I'll update with pics when it gets in but until then just close your eyes and imagine what a 6.5" Blackhawk looks like and that's what this one looks like.

Ellis, I sent you a PM about brass.

I have some of wheelguns' bullets. They look great, and i need to load some up and get out to shoot 'em!

c0wb0y84
04-16-2021, 02:27 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I'm really excited about getting this one.

Doug, PM replied to. Thanks a ton! That is one of the reasons I love this site! Such great people here ready to help and share knowledge and experience.

c0wb0y84
04-16-2021, 02:28 PM
Try it with the grip before you decide to replace it. I went with a Hogue grip due to nerve damage in my right hand. I couldn't really shoot her until I replaced the grip. Now I love it. Deadly accurate and a joy to shoot. I don't cast for her yet.
Ron

I believe I'll heed your advice and try it out before swapping it. You never know, I may like it.

c0wb0y84
04-16-2021, 02:35 PM
If I can find a 210 lee mold I imagine that's what I'll start with but I've read a bit about the MP hammer and that sounds like a fun one but the other day they were showing out of stock on their molds.

I had been watching that 410459 on eBay for a while but the price was way out their for me. Not much else showing available anywhere else.

I got some 2400, 296, and 231 so I'll have to play around to see what it likes once I have the rest of the components gathered up.

Tatume
04-16-2021, 02:40 PM
Not a cast bullet, but a https://shop.hodgdon.com/reloading-data-center maximum charge of H110 or W296 and the Sierra 170 gr HP is very accurate, and kills like lightning. It is also very, very fun to use on water bottles!

c0wb0y84
04-16-2021, 10:47 PM
If the rain( thank God for it) lets up, I’ll shoot my 6.5” .41 Blackhawk TODAY.

Hopefully the rain held off long enough for you to exercise the .41 today.

dougader
04-17-2021, 12:47 AM
I've loaded with 231, Blue Dot, 2400 and H110/W296. I have yet to open my 8# keg of AA9.

Blue Dot used to be loaded way too hot. Now that loading data is checked more accurately, and the data has been toned down to reflect that, it's clear there are better powders available. So, when my Blue Dot is gone I'll be looking more to Longshot, Power Pistol, VVn105, etc for that velocity range.

megasupermagnum
04-17-2021, 05:13 AM
The arsenal molds 220 grain is a winner. My 41 loves 11 grains of 800x.

RJM52
04-17-2021, 08:01 AM
Welcome to The Cult...

This is over in the Favorites section:

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?276144-41-Magnum-41-Special-Load-Data-Center


As to what cast bullet, any of the Keith designs work. One of my favorites is the older original Keith 220 from MP molds with HP and PentaPoint pins. NOE has the later version of the Keith bullet that is 230 grain and also available with HP pins. 8.0 grains of Unique with any bullet shoots like a laser and is just downright pleasant to shoot.

If you want a heavy, the Accurate Molds 41-250L has been an excellent shooter in all my guns. 22.0 grains of H110 runs 1444 fps from a 6" barrel. They do recoil a bit however.

Don't know what grips are on the version of the BH you bought, but if they are the new checkered black plastic ones...you won't like them, especially with loads with any recoil. They are too narrow and the checking will remove your palm prints.

Have a great time with your new find...

Bob

JonB_in_Glencoe
04-17-2021, 09:32 AM
The arsenal molds 220 grain is a winner. My 41 loves 11 grains of 800x.

^^^ that RF boolit is one of my fav's as well.

I am a big fan of Lee molds, I really like the Lee 41 SWC with lube groove...but not a big fan of the Lee's 41 TL boolit. One thing that's a bummer about 41 cal Lee molds, is they only make them in 2 cavity blocks :(
with that said, now is not the time to buy Lee equipment, prices are nuts, but sooner or later prices will come back down.
...NOW is the time to buy a New mold from one of the higher end manufacturers, like NOE or Arsenal or Accurate or MP Molds.

Texas by God
04-17-2021, 10:03 AM
Hopefully the rain held off long enough for you to exercise the .41 today.
Thanks! It was windy and cool so I plinked instead of paper targets. Lots of fun. I found out that even with my current play load of 6 grs of AA#2; the NOE 220 gr hp will go through a gallon jug of ice and stick in the 1x4 pallet slat at 20 feet. I terrorized some cans as well with the 195 SWC Lees as well with the same load. Both of these boolits came from members here- wonderful people!

Texas by God
04-17-2021, 10:08 AM
Sorry for the upside down pics- I need more coffee.

Lefty Red
04-17-2021, 10:04 PM
Sorry for the upside down pics- I need more coffee.


What mount do you have your sight on?

Texas by God
04-17-2021, 11:13 PM
Lefty it is a #61 Weaver base. (For flat surface) I drilled and tapped my frame and loctited it as well. The FastFire3 hasn't moved even with my seldom used 210gr/1400 fps loads.

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Lefty Red
04-18-2021, 07:39 AM
TX by God

Thank you sir! Will have to try that when I get a longer barrel one.

Lefty

Tar Heel
04-18-2021, 09:32 AM
Been a fan of and shooter of the 41 since '75. Love the cartridge! Use it on sod poodles through boar. Casting has allowed a full range of hunting.

https://youtu.be/piROUTy0Qsk

rbuck351
04-18-2021, 11:06 AM
I bought mine in 1984 as I have always liked the less common rounds. I have two molds, the Lee 195 which I don't care for and the Lyman 410610 220 gr. A few years back a fellow showed me how to make a 270 gr jacketed bullet from 40 S&W cases using some common dies and a couple of lathe turned punches. I have always used 16 grs of blue dot with the lyman boolit for 1480 fps even though blue dot is now not recommended for the 41. A caseful of H116 works well with the 270gr. Please don't use either of these loads unless you are willing and able to safely work uploads. They are both at the top end.

Tar Heel
04-18-2021, 02:41 PM
I have always used 16 grs of blue dot with the lyman boolit for 1480 fps even though blue dot is now not recommended for the 41. A caseful of H116 works well with the 270gr. Please don't use either of these loads unless you are willing and able to safely work uploads. They are both at the top end.

Blue Dot will give "pressure excursions" in the 41. That's an industry way of saying don't use it. It is no longer recommended because time has shown how "techy" Blue Dot is in the 41. I am one of the shooters who has seen a pressure excursion with Blue Dot and the 41. In fact, I don't use Blue Dot at all anymore in ANY cartridge cases. I do use it in shotgun shells where it works just fine - as advertised.

Larry Gibson
04-19-2021, 10:12 AM
My Ruger BH Bisley 41 magnum which is really my favorite hunting handgun for Deer/pig hunting. Mine uses a thin flat Weaver base with the Ruger D&T'd for it. The Burris Fast Fire can easily be removed if there is a problem with the FF and the iron sights are there still zeroed for instant use.

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Texas by God
04-19-2021, 01:18 PM
Larry Gibson, does that Weaver base have a number on it? My #61 flat base blocks the use of the iron sights- I like yours better.

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RJM52
04-19-2021, 06:16 PM
Larry...that is a GREAT looking way of mounting a dot sight...

Larry Gibson
04-19-2021, 06:36 PM
Larry Gibson, does that Weaver base have a number on it? My #61 flat base blocks the use of the iron sights- I like yours better.

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It's a #46. I filed the bottom flat which gives about the lowest base possible.

dougader
04-19-2021, 06:40 PM
I like my Raptor mount, but Larry's set up is a real good idea in the event of low battery or any other misadventure with the red dot sight.

Uncle Grinch
04-19-2021, 09:56 PM
As much as I love my stainless flattop 44 Special, it doesn’t hold a candle to my BH 41 6.5”. Doug honed the cylinders and now is shots very consistent size groups... if I do my part! I started of with a S&W 57 in 8 3/8” back in the early 70’s. It was a very nice revolver, but once I got my hands on a BH I was won over. Have a Marlin 1894 that was rebarreled to 41 Mag and its sweet too. Been looking for a Charter Pug 41 to complete my collection.

Texas by God
04-19-2021, 10:04 PM
It's a #46. I filed the bottom flat which gives about the lowest base possible.Thanks! I probably have one of those Mauser 98 bases. Copy Cat mode engaged.....

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Lefty Red
04-20-2021, 06:12 AM
Thanks! I probably have one of those Mauser 98 bases. Copy Cat mode engaged.....

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Please post pictures and techniques involved! Got to do this for my 357/9mm Convertible!
Lefty

Larry Gibson
04-20-2021, 10:57 AM
A vertical mill would be the best and easiest way to flatten the bottom of the #46 base. But if you've a vise and a good mill bastard file, a little skill with it and patience filing it flat isn't all that difficult either.

dougader
04-20-2021, 11:19 PM
I have a little skill. Very little... Seriously, I would need to send the job out to a gunsmith or machinist.

c0wb0y84
04-21-2021, 12:00 AM
Well, Picked it up today! I quickly decided that I didn't like the hogue monogrip as it just didn't feel comfortable. first the grip just felt too big in my hand, and I wear an XL glove so its not like I have small hands. The other thing is that the palm swell just sat in an uncomfortable location on my hand. So for the time being its borrowing some grips.

The gun is in pretty good shape except for two things. The first is a disappointment in that the front sight has a pretty good ding that happened sometime between buying it and receiving it. I drew a red arrow to it in the pics below. Its mushroomed out pretty good on the side and kinda messes up the sight picture.

The other issue is that it appears that someone tried to modify the pawl as the edge of the top tooth has some metal removed on the corner similar to the free spin pawl mod. Except it doesn't free spin. I'm not sure how big of an issue this is as everything seems to function as it should. In fact it cocks very smoothly and has a light crisp trigger pull so... Not really sure if this is something or nothing.

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littlejack
04-21-2021, 12:43 AM
Sounds like everything is either repairable, or replaceable. You could call Ruger, and ask if they can do something with the front sight. If not, find someone who is very proficient with tig welding. The material can be replaced then filed to it's original shape and cold blued. Can't really make out the damage very well, but it can be repaired. The front sight blade can be milled off, and a groove machined in the base for a replacement blade and a couple set screws from the side. The pawl can be replaced. But, if it ain't broke, dont fix it. Enjoy your new toy.

arlon
04-21-2021, 02:11 AM
41s are really nice as long as you're a reloader and bullet caster. I did manage to get a number of boxes of jacket .41 bullets at a local sporting goods store during the ammo crisis. I guess they are so unpopular that the only bullets on the shelfs were .41 and they were clearance priced.. I've had several
.41s over the years. Most have come and gone. A 4 5/8 NM Blackhawk and a S&W 58 are the only ones I still have. Few I wish I'd kept but these will do for the time being. Good luck with lead and the Blackhawk.

RJM52
04-21-2021, 06:42 AM
If the damage isn't too bad you can dress the metal down with a stone or fife and see how the sight picture is...then just some touch up cold bluing...

MrWolf
04-21-2021, 08:17 AM
Well, Picked it up today! I quickly decided that I didn't like the hogue monogrip as it just didn't feel comfortable. first the grip just felt too big in my hand, and I wear an XL glove so its not like I have small hands. The other thing is that the palm swell just sat in an uncomfortable location on my hand. So for the time being its borrowing some grips.

The gun is in pretty good shape except for two things. The first is a disappointment in that the front sight has a pretty good ding that happened sometime between buying it and receiving it. I drew a red arrow to it in the pics below. Its mushroomed out pretty good on the side and kinda messes up the sight picture.

The other issue is that it appears that someone tried to modify the pawl as the edge of the top tooth has some metal removed on the corner similar to the free spin pawl mod. Except it doesn't free spin. I'm not sure how big of an issue this is as everything seems to function as it should. In fact it cocks very smoothly and has a light crisp trigger pull so... Not really sure if this is something or nothing.

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I should have clarified, I have the Hogue rubber grips with the finger swells to stop the grip from twisting on me with my nerve damage.

c0wb0y84
04-21-2021, 11:43 AM
I will also add that if any of you that have swapped grips out still have your factory walnut or laminate grips lying around, taking up space, getting in your way and are willing to let them go I just so happen to know a guy in the market for some. 8-)

DougGuy
04-21-2021, 11:46 AM
I will also add that if any of you that have swapped grips out still have your factory walnut or laminate grips lying around, taking up space, getting in your way and are willing to let them go I just so happen to know a guy in the market for some. 8-)

Hey! That sounds like the Ruger factory! I bet they have a BUNCH laying around in the way! I bet if you call their best-in-the-industry customer support in Newport, and tell them how GOOD they are and how they are the BEST in the industry, and that every gun maker should take a lesson from them, and that you bought a used Blackhawk with Hogue grips and you would like to have some factory grips, they'd likely send you a pair for free! :bigsmyl2:

They might send you a free spin pawl too! But I'd think seriously about telling them someone modded the existing one, unless you get someone that is in a good mood and you buttered them up pretty good already, then you might ask if they ever send those out and if they do, then tell them someone butchered yours..

gwpercle
04-21-2021, 01:01 PM
Here are two moulds every 41 magnum owner needs to have .
The first one is great range / target / general use accurate boolit that I and my model 58 S&W just LOVE ...one ragged hole groups are expected . Both moulds are from NOE www.noebulletmoulds.com

1.) 413 - 215 - WC (413432) a full wadcutter that is Awesomely Accurate shooting !

2.) 412 - 237 - SWC (KEITH) Elmer Keith's classic design re-created exactly as Elmer designed it .

You may not be able to order them now...seems like everything is out of stock ... but place an order and wait ... at least write down the numbers and do look at 413-215-WC (413432) it is a winner and about all I cast for now .
It does a number on wild hogs !
My avatar is my model 58 - 41 magnum w/ rosewood Ahrends retro combat grips ...they are sweet !
Gary

foesgth
04-21-2021, 01:45 PM
41mag is not a gun it is an addiction. I have an old Lee single cavity mold. It is labeled 90331. If I remember right (these days my memory is as good as a discount used parachute) it is a 240g SWC. I don't use it any more. If you PM me your address I will send it to you as a gun warming present.
Welcome to the club!

Randy

DougGuy
04-21-2021, 01:57 PM
You fellas might want to check cylinder throats, see if the boolits you want to use will slide through the throats or if they will be downsized upon firing. I get sent quite a few 41 cylinders down in the .409" range, obviously smaller than any 41 barrel, just saying...

gwpercle
04-21-2021, 04:04 PM
41mag is not a gun it is an addiction. I have an old Lee single cavity mold. It is labeled 90331. If I remember right (these days my memory is as good as a discount used parachute) it is a 240g SWC. I don't use it any more. If you PM me your address I will send it to you as a gun warming present.
Welcome to the club!

Randy
LIKE !!!

Addiction ...yes that is the word ... Describes it to a " Tee" !
When Lyman dropped all 41 moulds from their line I had a minor Panic Attack untill the boys here turned me onto NOE Moulds ... Swede Nelson does an excellent job of taking up the 41 mag. mould slack left by others ... even Lee , they only make 1 conventional and 1 tumble lube designs ... finding moulds for the addiction is getting harder every day .

DougGuy , thanks for the shout-out ... the 1969 made model 58 I have , surprisingly , has all the correct dimensions and tolerances , was LEO carried a lot - shot very little and is a tack driver .
Whats strange is it groups light , mid-range and heavy loads all pretty close to the same place ...
That's just weird ... but I'm not complaining . That 215 gr. cast NOE WC and 7.5 grs. of Unique is "The Load" in this gun . You need to try it .
Gary

megasupermagnum
04-21-2021, 05:41 PM
You fellas might want to check cylinder throats, see if the boolits you want to use will slide through the throats or if they will be downsized upon firing. I get sent quite a few 41 cylinders down in the .409" range, obviously smaller than any 41 barrel, just saying...

I lucked out big time on my model 57. The throats are .410", but the barrel groove diameter is just over .408".

c0wb0y84
04-21-2021, 06:02 PM
You fellas might want to check cylinder throats, see if the boolits you want to use will slide through the throats or if they will be downsized upon firing. I get sent quite a few 41 cylinders down in the .409" range, obviously smaller than any 41 barrel, just saying...

This and slugging the barrel will be one of the first things I do before trying to work up a load. You know where its headed if they're tight.

I may give Ruger a call and see if they can help before I try anything else with the sight. I will mess with it myself as a last resort. I'm not gonna hold my breath on free anything from them though. I've heard of it happening for some lucky souls but mine doesn't tend be that good.

foesgth
04-21-2021, 07:13 PM
It looks like Grafs has some Starline 41Mag brass in stock. I would jump on it fast while it is still there!

LUCKYDAWG13
04-21-2021, 07:39 PM
I was just up at Cabelas today they had a used Ruger 41 magnum 4 5/8 looked nice going for around 450 bux if someone is looking
I dont need two of them

RJM52
04-21-2021, 09:36 PM
...that is a great price...

Cary Gunn
04-21-2021, 10:48 PM
Hey Wheelguns and Texas,

I like the grips on both your Rugers.

I wonder from what material Wheelguns' grips are made. Mammoth ivory, maybe? I'd appreciate, just for the eye-candy aspect, some more photos of your gorgeous Bisley handles.

The stag grips on Tex's Blackhawk also make me jealous. Elk antler, maybe?

My pet loads for the .41 Magnum -- over the last 40+ years -- include 6.5 grains of Green Dot, 7.8 grains of Unique, and about 20 grains of H110, all behind the Lyman 410459 slug (220 grains with my mold and alloy).

The Green Dot load is a pleasant, accurate every-day plinker and fun load.

The Unique recipe produces a reduced-recoil, low-end game load that I've been forced to go to recently because of an orthopedic injury to my right wrist and hand.

In the decades prior to the paw injury, my field-game load was the Hodgdon 110 charge that produced better than 1300 fps from my 6 1/2-inch Blackhawk.

To say that I've enjoyed the .41 over the years is a terrible understatement.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --

c0wb0y84
04-21-2021, 11:17 PM
That is a great price for the blackhawk. Slightly better than I got and probably more so considering the issues with it. Although I really wanted the 6.5 in barrel so I'm still happy.

I will have to look into that green dot load. Got plenty of that.

c0wb0y84
04-21-2021, 11:19 PM
It looks like Grafs has some Starline 41Mag brass in stock. I would jump on it fast while it is still there!


It is still there!

Wheelguns 1961
04-21-2021, 11:31 PM
Hey Wheelguns and Texas,

I like the grips on both your Rugers.

I wonder from what material Wheelguns' grips are made. Mammoth ivory, maybe? I'd appreciate, just for the eye-candy aspect, some more photos of your gorgeous Bisley handles.

The stag grips on Tex's Blackhawk also make me jealous. Elk antler, maybe?

My pet loads for the .41 Magnum -- over the last 40+ years -- include 6.5 grains of Green Dot, 7.8 grains of Unique, and about 20 grains of H110, all behind the Lyman 410459 slug (220 grains with my mold and alloy).

The Green Dot load is a pleasant, accurate every-day plinker and fun load.

The Unique recipe produces a reduced-recoil, low-end game load that I've been forced to go to recently because of an orthopedic injury to my right wrist and hand.

In the decades prior to the paw injury, my field-game load was the Hodgdon 110 charge that produced better than 1300 fps from my 6 1/2-inch Blackhawk.

To say that I've enjoyed the .41 over the years is a terrible understatement.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --

The grips on my bisley are from buckeye burl, and were very affordable.

Cary Gunn
04-22-2021, 08:26 PM
Wheelguns,

Thanks for the second look at your Bisley grips. I'm amazed that wood can get that pretty.

Happy trails,

-- Cary Gunn --

Texas by God
04-22-2021, 09:25 PM
And mine are elk antler from Sack P., thanks.
I'd carefully file that ouchie from the front sight as mentioned above. And I know a fella as well that will take your tired old Blackhawk grips.....


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c0wb0y84
04-22-2021, 11:50 PM
I called ruger today and talked to a very nice girl who set it up for me to send it in and they’ll make it right.

LUCKYDAWG13
04-23-2021, 09:25 AM
That's great news i sent them a SBH that had the front sight put on wrong they put a new barrel on it and rebulued it

Tatume
04-28-2021, 12:04 PM
My Ruger BH Bisley 41 magnum which is really my favorite hunting handgun for Deer/pig hunting. Mine uses a thin flat Weaver base with the Ruger D&T'd for it. The Burris Fast Fire can easily be removed if there is a problem with the FF and the iron sights are there still zeroed for instant use.

My 4-5/8" Ruger BH 41 Magnum is my favorite single action revolver, and is also the most accurate single action revolver I've ever shot. To say I like it would be an understatement. Upon seeing Larry's post I promptly acquired a Weaver #46 base and milled the bottom flat. Alas, I discovered that the top strap of my Ruger is not flat. It is significantly concave up. When I discovered this I cancelled my plan to D&T the Ruger. Too bad, as I would have enjoyed the dot sight.

Larry Gibson
04-28-2021, 03:38 PM
The top strap isn't flat in front of the rear sight hump?

Tatume
04-28-2021, 04:43 PM
The top strap isn't flat in front of the rear sight hump?

No. It looks flat, but as soon as it is compared to a true flat the curvature becomes obvious. It is "dished out," possibly when the frame casting was being prepared for polishing.

Larry Gibson
04-28-2021, 05:28 PM
You could still D&T it then put some release agent on the top strap. A dab of Steel Bed on the bottom of the base and screw it in place. When the Steel Bed "sets" remove and trim up. The base will be a perfect fit to the top strap that way.

Tatume
04-28-2021, 07:05 PM
Yes, I'm considering that approach. My plan was to use Marine Tex, if I decide to go that route. Thanks for your help.

badwolf
04-29-2021, 10:15 AM
You fellas cost me money, got a ruger Blackhawk coming thanks to Luckydawg, brass coming from Grafs. Now i need to find a mold and dies, here we go again!

c0wb0y84
04-29-2021, 10:52 AM
You fellas cost me money, got a ruger Blackhawk coming thanks to Luckydawg, brass coming from Grafs. Now i need to find a mold and dies, here we go again!

Yep. I probably would’ve never even heard of a 41 mag had it not been for this site. And then I go researching and reading everything about them and realize I “needed” one.

Did you get the one from Cabelas?

Tatume
04-29-2021, 10:59 AM
Today I was looking at this again, and noticed for the first time that one of the screw holes falls above the barrel threads. This will require a blind hole and a bottom tap. However, I don't like weakening this critical area, and I'm considering relocating the hole closer to the other hole so as to drill through the top strap for both screws. That will put the two holes very close to each other. It will probably be fine, but I'm going to think about it some more (as in "measure twice, cut once").

badwolf
04-29-2021, 06:42 PM
Yes cabelas

RJM52
05-03-2021, 08:59 AM
If you don't want to D&T, I have been using this one for years on a 6.5" .41 BH and it has never moved...

https://www.ebay.com/p/2254394634?iid=253832337087

Tatume
05-03-2021, 09:06 AM
If you don't want to D&T, I have been using this one for years on a 6.5" .41 BH and it has never moved...

https://www.ebay.com/p/2254394634?iid=253832337087

The Weaver and Weigand bases require removal of the rear sight. The objective here is to be able to use the rear sight or red dot, as desired and without re-sighting.

iron brigade
05-05-2021, 06:20 AM
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Picture of a 100 yard group shot yesterday with my .41 magnum black hawk.
7.8 grains of power pistol with the arsenal mold 220 Keith style bullet.
One click down brought the poi into the black. Sorry for the poor picture quality, took off my phone with my Kindle fire.
I had the cylinder holes bored to .412 by a gent on here, does great work but can't remember his name. Very accurate revolver and cartridge.

iron brigade
05-05-2021, 08:27 AM
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Picture of my .41 magnum
I remembered that Doug guy did the cylinder work. Highly recommend him.
Oh yes, forgot to mention... Grips by altmont. They are excellent and fairly priced

c0wb0y84
05-05-2021, 09:03 AM
Nice! I received an email with tracking # this morning. Should have it back Friday and then it’s time to get to work. Those grips look good. Looking around I think I like the lighter toned grips on the blued gun. Like the Birdseye maple grips they put on the special edition 357 mag. Too bad ruger doesn’t sell them on their site.

iron brigade
05-06-2021, 08:11 PM
Did you get it back yet?

c0wb0y84
05-06-2021, 09:17 PM
Did you get it back yet?

Tracking says it should be here tomorrow.

c0wb0y84
05-07-2021, 11:58 PM
Well it came in this afternoon. When I opened the box I could hardly believe my eyes! If I didn't know better I'd a thought they sent me a brand new blackhawk. The note said the front sight had been repaired and the pawl and cylinder latch had been replaced. Well the repairing of the front sight was putting a new one on and call me crazy but the barrel looks new as well. The pawl and cylinder latch was probably because somebody messed with the old ones with a file or something and I mentioned on the note I sent with it that I was concerned about the timing because one of the cylinder notches looked to be peened and had a little burr from it. They cleaned it up and reblued the cylinder as well but the factory note didn't mention anything about it but it looked good as new like it had never been fired with no turn line at all. They also polished the flats on the side of the hammer and re-finished the ejector housing. I hope to slug the bore and check cylinder throats tomorrow but so far Ruger has gone above and beyond on this one.

iron brigade
05-08-2021, 07:46 AM
Hey that's great news and excellent service from Ruger!
I just put a one ragged hole peep sight on my 41. Going to see how it does.
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LUCKYDAWG13
05-08-2021, 08:55 AM
When I sent mine back to Ruger to fix the front sight they did replace the barrel and yes rebulued it and looked better than it did when it was new
Congratulations ��

LUCKYDAWG13
05-08-2021, 08:57 AM
I tried the one ragged hole didn't work for my eyes but the Bowen sights helped me

c0wb0y84
05-08-2021, 11:47 PM
So I know that I've seen it somewhere but now I'm coming up short in my search. On the face of the cylinder that has the "S" stamped what is the purpose of a dimple being stamped next to one of the chambers?

c0wb0y84
05-11-2021, 04:25 PM
So I know that I've seen it somewhere but now I'm coming up short in my search. On the face of the cylinder that has the "S" stamped what is the purpose of a dimple being stamped next to one of the chambers?

No One? Dougguy, are you still reading this thread? I'm sure you've come across this and probably have an answer.

Texas by God
05-11-2021, 08:03 PM
So I know that I've seen it somewhere but now I'm coming up short in my search. On the face of the cylinder that has the "S" stamped what is the purpose of a dimple being stamped next to one of the chambers?I dont know about those marks, but is the last 3 #s of the serial stamped there? Just curious.

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c0wb0y84
05-11-2021, 09:26 PM
Nope, just the S and a single dimple next to one of the chambers.

I’ve read about some with the last three but I thought those were typically conversions or older guns. Or was it the newer ones?

Texas by God
05-11-2021, 10:55 PM
Mine has the 3 numbers on it and it's a 2018 model.

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c0wb0y84
05-11-2021, 11:06 PM
Mine has the 3 numbers on it and it's a 2018 model.

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Are they stamped or etched?

This one is '99 vintage.

Texas by God
05-12-2021, 09:14 AM
Looks like etched to me. I don't recall if any of my other Blackhawks over the years were so marked- but I like that it shows that it is the matching cylinder.

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c0wb0y84
05-12-2021, 09:18 PM
It does seem to make sense to have it on there for that reason. Kinda makes you wonder why they didn't always put it on there.