AR hog killing options

[Mr_Sheesh]

Hi all.

In trying to figure out moving, I have one option that has some advantages that I'm looking at, moving to an area that has feral hogs. None of those in this state so I am not displeased :)

I could use a 30-06 or 308 for those, with CB's I imagine it'd work nicely, but may be overkill? (Heresy, I know.)

If you were in a wild hog area and could dedicate an AR to the task, what caliber(s) seem to be the most applicable for folks?

Terrain is largely open from pics I have seen, with a few lone and clumped / thickets trees/brush. So I suspect longer shots are possible.

I have a good "organic rangefinder and ballistic computer" so I'm not afraid of a slower round with some drop, I've eyeballed rockchucks and coyotes out a long ways so 200 yards with a 300 BO should be easy. Not sure I'll get much further out than that, more to learn.

[tai95]

I think any rifle caliber would work for what you are wanting to do. It would all come down to personal preference. Before it sunk in a boating accident my 50 beowulf was a fun rifle. The only problem now would be sourcing brass for it. A 7.62x39 would probably be my choice at the moment. Just because I don't have one in the caliber. You already have a 308 so you could skip an AR10, but those are nice too.

[SeabeeMan]

I've come to the conclusion that 300 Blackout is one of the most versatile chamberings there is. For northern WI whitetails, it is what I have settled on over 30-06, 30-30.

[white eagle]

I think if you could find one in 30 carbine you would be set

[DDriller]

.458 Socom, .375 Socom, .30 HRT, .300 Ham'r just to name a few.

[rockrat]

7.62x39 is what I would go with as first choice and maybe 6.5 Grendel for second. Course, nothing wrong with a 458 Socom either;-)

[popper]

300BO or hamr would do fine. Very economical to shoot. Makes a good truck gun. I'd go for 1:10 barrel in BO. Many have gone to 6.5 for long shots. 200 yds may be pushing the BO with heavier bullets. Wide open means long shots IF you have food around and NV. Hogs are pretty nomadic unless in a food plot. Lighter bullets are good for yotes too. You won't often get a second shot if using a bolt rifle.

[mrmachinist]

6.8 spc is great for hogs and deer. I have 3 ars in 6.8. And a 4th I’m building as a wildcat with a 6.5 bullet in a 6.8 case. Should be fun.

More velocity than the BO. The blackout was designed to be suppressed, if you are not doing that the 6.8 is a better round. The 350 legend shows promise as well I would choose that over a blackout any day. Loaded ammo is scarce but can be found brass and bullets are fairly plentiful. The only somewhat difficult part to find is a bolt.


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[Mr_Sheesh]

Yes, AR was my thought for fast repeat shots, though I can cycle a good bolt pretty fast, semi-auto is faster :)

Been thinking 7.62x39 for something else, interesting but it'd do for hogs, definitely.

[longcruise]

On a hog hunt last year there was quite a variety of guns in the group and everything was working great. Not all cast boolit shooters though.

Several AR styles in 450 bushmaster accounted well for themselves.

[beechbum444]

Been researching this same topic, kinda thinking a 45 raptor would be a good option

[gumbo333]

In years past I have put together AR's in 223, 6.8 spc, 300 BO, 7.62x39, 452 bushmaster and 458 socum . likely all would do the job. 223 may be minimum. My 7.62x39 functioned better and was more accurate than the 300BO. The 7.62 was sweet. With a 458socum you would need bullets suited for a 45/70, many 458 bullets would require much more velocity. The 452 bushy uses .452 bullets, or thereabout, more common with handgun velocity. I really liked the bushy also. I didn't have the 6.8 long enough to use it a lot but again bullet selection may be a problem as many may be to hard for the slower velocity. So anything from a 6.5 on up that tickles your fancy likely would work just fine. And if not, change it. That's the fun part. Just my thoughts. Can't go wrong.

[Gone_rabid]

We have been to Texas twice for hog hunting. We had .223 w/Barnes bullets, 6.5 grendel with hornady sst’s and 350 legend w/federal 180’s. The 350 legend absolutely slayed them compared to others.

The 50 Beowulf works very well too. Haha

Variety is the spice of life. Get them all.

[reloader28]

I figure the 450 bushmaster would be perfect. 45 cal boolits and basically equal to the 444 marlin

[Ural Driver]

I have a friend that kills hogs with a scoped .22lr semi auto rifle. He does headshots (eye or ear) on them from a blind 25 yards away from a feeder. Pretty much almost always drops em in their tracks. It's a bunch cheaper too.

[Cast10]

I live and have a ranch in Texas. Lots of hogs. My main rifle for hunting hogs, dogs, cats, and deer is a AR-15 in 6.8 SPC II. I reload my own. Push a 110gr bullet over 2700 fps from a 18” bbl. Very accurate and lots of available rounds. No overpowering: more penetration and upset. I have a 308 and /06. They will kill them but overpenetrate. I prefer the 6.8.

[Goofy]

Hogs aren't hard to kill.

https://i.imgur.com/lw7duvS.jpg

[everybodydiesintime]

I haven't found my hog yet I'm in central Florida but I'm still hunting for him.I'm carrying 300 blackout 230 grain cast n powder coated ford light blue on top of imr 2447 sub rounds.Their shooting around 1040 fps and group pretty good.It's the ''Elvis ammo load''. I did have to get a pistol length gas system 16in barrel for them to work but for only 6 cent a round hell yeah!

[poppy42]

I’ve killed more than my share with a 22lr or 22 mag when I lived in Florida. 223/5.56 head shot will be more than adequate, without destroying a bunch of meat. I’ve never used one but I’ve been told that 300 blackout is actually an ideal cartridge especially if you’re going suppressed subsonic . That way you don’t disturb the rest of the Sounder! As others have said they’re not really that hard to kill and any rifle caliber will be fine. The trick being keep it as quiet as possible so as not to disturb the rest of them and you should be able to take out quite a few out of the sounder. Good luck, have fun, and be safe.
Poppy42

[Cast10]

Don’t know if a 22LR or Mag wouldn’t done it.....


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[Winger Ed.]

I had a buddy that went after them rather aggressively .
He got permission to hunt on a ranch that had a decent size stock pond on it.
He'd wait until a herd of them came down to drink.
He'd start at the back, and work towards the ones in the water.
He'd get 5-7-8 of them with a standard AR in 5.56 with the max. load for 55 or 60 grain spire points.

[Mr_Sheesh]

Cast10 - Can't see that one yet, sadly?

Lots of good info :)

[Finster101]

Fellow up the road from me does crop damage for a local watermelon farmer. He uses a thermal scope on a suppressed 6.8 and is very successful with the night hunting. To my knowledge he doesn't use any for meat, just leaves them lay for the farmer to bury. I don't why. Could be what they are feeding on gives them a bad flavor. I might try and go with him sometime just to watch. I don't have a thermal or night vision setup to hunt.

[brewer12345]

My one and only hog hunt thus far was with a 35 Rem lever. It was like the hammer of Thor on the hogs. That being the case, I would opt for 350 Legend which is pretty similar.

[SeabeeMan]

I don't think you could go wrong with any caliber out there for hogs. I've settled on 300 Blackout as the best round I've come across in a while for whitetails, but I still like to break out the 450 Bushmaster and the 350 Legend is growing on me. If you want something different, the big bore's are fun (450, 458, 50) but more expensive to shoot.

300 Ham'r isn't nearly as mainstream or you could go really off the wall and get into the 7 Raptor or 257 Raptor.

[Cast10]

Cast10 - Can't see that one yet, sadly?

Lots of good info :)

Try this....trying to get this IMGUR down.
https://imgur.com/UqO7xlg

[jaysouth]

At HOGSWAT down in GA, they give guests an AR in 7.62X39 with a can on the end. Last time I was down there, the AR had a high Pulsar thermal imaging scope. They kill thousand of hogs every year.

[Mr_Sheesh]

Big hog, Cast10! Thing I was concerned about is the shield in the front quarters but head shots are doable so that works.

[KMac]

Here in Texas, the guys that kill hogs for a living mostly shoot the 6.5 grendel or the 6.8 spc II.
There ain’t much difference between the 2 within 300 yards. The 6.5 grendel does better at longer ranges. The 6.5 grendel just has way more variations of ammo made for it.
Not that any is available right now.
I built a 6.5 grendel over the last year and will take it on my first hog hunt in July . I have a buddy coming down from NJ and we are going to hunt in the Hill Country north of San Antonio.
I stocked up on 90 gr Speer TNT, 120 gr Speer Gold dot and 129 gr Nosler ABLR. Just need to work some loads up for it. Have not been to the Range since the COVID. But it is about time to go.

[Lloyd Smale]

never shot a pig but have shot 9 deer with mine using the 100 nos bt. But i think that bullet is discontinued. Its hammerd them all the closest was about 50 yards and the furthest around 250.

[Texas by God]

I kill hogs when I see them on my farm with whatever rifle I have with me- usually a 22-250. It works just fine. I have three friends who hunt them at night with thermal sights and suppressed AR15s. None of the three use subsonic ammo. They use the 6.5 Grendel, the 7.62x39, and the 6.8 SPC. I went one night last week with the 6.5 guy and he let me shoot his rifle- very cool- to kill a 150 lb boar. With a shoulder hit, it ran about 40 yards and died. Hunting from a stand over corn, I use my .223 or my .300 BO with full velocity soft points. Canoeing the Trinity River, I use (by law) a 12 or 20 gauge with buckshot. To dispatch pigs in our traps, usually a handgun is used- .22 to .45acp.
Like Popper said, they follow no pattern unless you feed them, even then they don't show up every day. They are currently fixated on our wheat fields, but that will change soon ( or not)!

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[WestKentucky]

6.8 is an incredible hunting round. I am not overly enthused with ARs but I will not sell my 6.8 rifle. Ever. It’s a tack driver, it looks incredible, and it puts some serious smack on the target. I haven’t shot a hog with it but it is a deer anchor.

[Cast10]

I’ve been building/shooting 6.8’s for over 9 years. It’s all I use, except at night, the 10mm MechTech steps in with NV. Good shot placement is true with ANY caliber. The x39, 6.8 and the likes are good cause they are mid-powered and seem to not overpenetrate as much. The Hornady SST round is a mini handgrenade and will usually dispatch any hog with a ‘decent’ shot. I shoot Horandy 110 OTM (HPBT Match) bullets. That’s what this big boy was shot with. 90 yards in the neck and he went straight down.

[white eagle]

I have a ar based on the 6.8
it's a 224 Valkyrie shoots 75 grainers to the same hole at 100 yds
it would be a perfect match for your operation

[popper]

I don't shoot subs but this works. Anything from 110 to 170, light and easy to carry.
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[Cast10]

Big hog, Cast10! Thing I was concerned about is the shield in the front quarters but head shots are doable so that works.
Thanks. I’ve shot them thru the shoulders, no difference. Hit the vitals and they go down. My preferred shot is behind the ear to the tip of the shoulder, midway. Otherwise, low on shoulder.

[Harter66]

Been on a couple of hog hunts .
65 yd with a 100 gr Game King in a 257 Roberts was a little more than needed .
Feet to 50 yd a 1050 fps 45 Colts 255 SWC was plenty .
30-30 with 150 gr Silver Tips was up to the task .
222 needed better shot placement with a 50 gr SP .

Given your range and desire for an AR I would definitely recommend the 6.8 SPC . The NOE 279-124 was made for it and with rifle gas in a 20" ARP 5R will deliver 2200+ with H4198 and data for a 130 gr jacketed . It carries 1000+ ftlb at 100 yd and will break both shoulders .

[Mr_Sheesh]

More good info :)

I'm well aware of the 224 Valkyrie, was thinking of that as a rockchuck / coyote round, more to think on :)

[lar45]

Hi Mr Sheesh, I have a Ruger AR in 450 bushmaster and right out of the box would put 5 Hornady's under .5". I try for head shots, no tracking. It hammers them pretty hard.
Last year I got an AR Pistol in 7.62x39 for hunting out of blinds. I tried lots of cast bullets but didn't get anything fantastic. It has a .308 barrel and a.311" throat. I tried several.308 bullets with okay results, but then tried .310 Barnes TSX and got sub 1" groups right off the bat. 2 years ago I got 11 hogs with a wide variety of calibers, 6.5x55, 300 win mag, 45acp, 450 bushmaster, 54 cal muzzleloader... all worked well.
This past year we had a big group of tresspassers come through our lease with dogs and ATVs and drove most of the pigs outing the summer. So last year I only saw pigs once and only got 1 shot off.
Most of my pig hunting is at dusk or night and 50 yds is a max shot, but I have seen them in the day. The 300 win took a 160# boar through the head at 268 paces.

[derek45]

6.8SPC or 6.5 Grendel

They are pretty evenly matched out to 400yrds.

the 6.8 feeds smoother, the 6.5G has cheap steel cased WOLF FMJ

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[Mr_Sheesh]

I'm still gathering more info, found out more about WA laws from another forum, and worst thing is, finding an upper, they're sorta rare on the ground as you'd expect in this shortage.

[405grain]

I used to hunt feral pigs in Mendocino county many moons ago. I've seen pigs shot through both lungs with a 308 run for a hundred yards and bury themself in a blackberry thicket, then take half an hour to die. Once I shot a pig that was charging me 5 times with a 44 magnum before it went down, (3 rounds were head shots). Then there are other times where I've seen a pig do a bang/flop after one round with a 357 mag. Yes, you can kill a pig with a 22lr, but that sure wouldn't be my first choice. I ended up using a bolt action 30-06 and trying for head shots when possible, and never felt under gunned. If I were going to hunt pigs with a semi-auto, 7.62x39 would be my first choice.

[Goofy]

Be a sport; put a bayonet on your AR.

[derek45]

Be a sport; put a bayonet on your AR.


WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW

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[derek45]

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[badguybuster]

300Blk will do anything you need. Ive been on the band wagon since its inception and still think its the cats ***

[Moonie]

I have 3 AR-15's, I'd take any of them, 22 Nosler, 300 BO and 50 Beowulf.

[Norske]

Lots of experienced good suggestions above. But you may want to Google "hog hunts gone bad" before making your personal decision. I hunt black bear from a ground blind. I use a 45-70 because their strength is scary. I do know of a hunter that successfully used a 243 to kill a big black bear, but he was the teen-aged son of an outfitter.

[Mr_Sheesh]

I'd rather err on the side of overkill than underkill, my knees are shot so I won't be climbing any trees in record time or the like, period. Semi Auto does mean that a repeat shot is (If everything goes right) available almost instantly, a good thing.

[Half Dog]

WHAT MAKES THE GRASS GROW

https://i.imgur.com/Q82NnvH.jpg

BLOOD. Blood makes the grass grow.

[Mr_Sheesh]

I could back myself up with a good boar spear... Bayonets just seem to turn a rifle into a clumsy spear, boars are pretty fast.

[Dinny]

Red commie blood makes the green grass grow! I have used a 300BLK in the past with great success. These days I prefer the 6.5 Grendel. https://youtu.be/awF2IaoUxVE

Thanks, Dinny

[slim1836]

I hog hunt off the porch at my friends place. If they charge, I'll go in the house. The feeder is 67yds away. AR10 does well but follow up shots are harder to do.

Slim

[Beaverhunter2]

If you're planning to shoot cast- one of the larger calibers like .350 Legend, .450 Bushmaster, 458 Socom. Those should get you to 150yds or so. If you're planning to use J-words (mostly)- 6.5 Grendel without question. Don't believe me- go on the 65grendel forum and check out the hog hunting videos on the hunting page. You can see there that Grendel has plenty of power but the reasonable recoil lets you see what's happening downrange. Also, it has more range capability than most folks can accurately shoot- supersonic past 1000 yards.

I say "mostly" j-words because I'm doing some experimentation with the NOE 126 FN. Certainly accurate enough (1" or so at 100yds) and I'm getting 2300fps with PC'ed ACWWs sized to .265" and 26gr of IMR3031. I'm thinking it has some medium game potential.

So many choices. So little gun money....;-)

[Mr_Sheesh]

A 308's recoil doesn't bug me much. 180 Gr SPBTs with BLC(2) was my load back in the day, shortish barreled rifle, no muzzle flash even at night (Couple specks of hot carbon, thats not bad.)

7MM Rem Mag, mind you, 40 rounds in a day of 160 Gr SPBT's over compressed 4831 is enough for my shoulder to gripe loudly; For a couple days. But that round would mess hogs up.

But 308 in a semi auto is relatively light for this old bush yeti LOL

[Beaverhunter2]

A 308's recoil doesn't bug me much. 180 Gr SPBTs with BLC(2) was my load back in the day, shortish barreled rifle, no muzzle flash even at night (Couple specks of hot carbon, thats not bad.)

7MM Rem Mag, mind you, 40 rounds in a day of 160 Gr SPBT's over compressed 4831 is enough for my shoulder to gripe loudly; For a couple days. But that round would mess hogs up.

But 308 in a semi auto is relatively light for this old bush yeti LOL

I also shoot a .450 Marlin with 420gr WFN's at 1700 fps but I never get to see the bullet hit. Of course- one shot and whatever I'm shooting at is done.

With my Grendel- the critter never leaves the scope. I know a lot of hog shooters are trying to get multiple animals out of a sounder so quick follow up and limited recoil would seem to be helpful.

I don't hunt hogs- none in my area. (Thank God!) But I think if I was trying to get "every deer in a herd"- my .450 would probably be one of my last choices. One of my Grendel ARs would be my first. Probably followed by my M1A (with iron sights)....

Like I said- So many choices and so little gun money! The research and decision process is half the fun buying of a new gun! Enjoy!

John

[Rapier]

I live in big hog country. 5-600 # big, and we can hunt day or night with lights or thermals, cans, etc. I have several hog adequate rifles for the farm. Prefer the AR-15 platform with big cartridges, like the 358 MGP (necked up, blown out 6.8) with the 200 RCBS cast Powder Coated. I also use the TAC 30 and 30x39 with powder coated cast. 1680 makes a good powder for super sonic and H-110 for subs. With the Armalite AR-10 I use the 308 or 260.

[warren5421]

I have not hog hunted but might get it done this year. I am looking at a Trapdoor because, but will have a '86 Remington 870 Police Express Magnum. I have been told to watch for the Russian bore hogs as they take more gun than domesticated wild hogs. Don't know if true but hope to find out.

[Loudenboomer]

Mr Sheesh If you care to venture off the AR the beaten path a bit. I do like my SS Ruger mini thirty with a red dot sight for close up shooting.

[white eagle]

Hi all.

In trying to figure out moving, I have one option that has some advantages that I'm looking at, moving to an area that has feral hogs. None of those in this state so I am not displeased :)

I could use a 30-06 or 308 for those, with CB's I imagine it'd work nicely, but may be overkill? (Heresy, I know.)

If you were in a wild hog area and could dedicate an AR to the task, what caliber(s) seem to be the most applicable for folks?

Terrain is largely open from pics I have seen, with a few lone and clumped / thickets trees/brush. So I suspect longer shots are possible.

I have a good "organic rangefinder and ballistic computer" so I'm not afraid of a slower round with some drop, I've eyeballed rockchucks and coyotes out a long ways so 200 yards with a 300 BO should be easy. Not sure I'll get much further out than that, more to learn.

nothing beats a 30 carbine

[Mr_Sheesh]

ARs can shoot 7.62x39 as well. I haven't seen a 30 carbine upper for an AR but at least one probably exists.

[popper]

The grendel is nice for longer shots due to better BC of the longer bullets. Cast probably wont give the same performance. That is one advantage of the BO or even the 308, so many options of load. AR10 is much heavier than AR15 and gas guns restrict you load somewhat, not a major problem. 30 hamr is equl to x39. Figure the BO is like 30/30 for range, grendel is like 308W.

[Lloyd Smale]

no pigs but ive taken deer cleanly out to 200 yards with the bo using 110 barnes x bullets and out to 350 with the grendel shooting 100 ballistic tips. Going to give the hamr a work out in a couple months. Should be a killer. I get an easy 300 fps more with the same weight bullets in the bo. Probably would along with the 762x39 be as good as it gets in an ar15 on pigs out at 200 yards.

[bluebird66]

I would love to take my Grendel hog hunting.

[fastdadio]

nothing beats a 30 carbine

except my AR in 350 Legend.......
[smilie=1: :popcorn:

[popper]

30 carbine - 110gr @ 2k fps - easy for the BO with 40% heavier bullet.

[Wolfdog91]

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My night vision rig heavy but works lol
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[Lloyd Smale]

30 carbine - 110gr @ 2k fps - easy for the BO with 40% heavier bullet.

yup my blackout will do 2200 with a 110. 130s to 2000 easily. All with bullets that have MUCH better bc then the typical 30 carbine bullet. No comparison. Personaly i think youd be better armed with a 556 shooting barnes x bullets, partitions or a even a bonded bullet. That and back when i played with them i never saw a book level reload for the carbine do 1900 fps. Most were lucky to do 1800 out of a carbine. Not saying it wont kill a hog but its not on the same level as the rounds being discussed here.

[BamaNapper]

223/556 is probably the most common in this area. Most folks I know keep the meat so hogs in the 100-150 pound range are preferred. Smaller is better, but much bigger and you're stuck burying or burning the carcasses. I hope to have access to some hog hunting land this year and I'd probably go with 223 since shots will be less than 100 yds. If I was shooting 300 yds I'd choose differently.

[BobT]

I have killed hogs with several different cartridges and as said in a previous post a .22lr will kill them stone dead, if everything is perfect. It's when everything is not perfect that things can get dicey pretty quick. A few years ago I was getting ready for a safari so I was hunting everything with my .375 H&H, late one evening a large (300 # +/-) boar walked into the field I was watching, I put the crosshairs high on his shoulder and touched off a 270 grain softpoint, the hog dropped in his tracks, I scanned the field for more hogs and as I came back around the boar was getting up with both front legs under him. I shot again and put the boar down for good with the second one but it took 2 good hits from that .375 to keep him planted. If I'm sitting watching a bait pile then a suppressed AR chambered in .277 Wolverine is my gun of choice. If I am walking around looking for hogs or if we are doing drives then I take something bigger, one of my mediums gets to go, either the afore mentioned .375 H&H or my 9,3x62 or .350 Remington magnum. IMHO bigger is better for hogs!

[Whole Bunches]

I live in big hog country. 5-600 # big, and we can hunt day or night with lights or thermals, cans, etc. I have several hog adequate rifles for the farm. Prefer the AR-15 platform with big cartridges, like the 358 MGP (necked up, blown out 6.8) with the 200 RCBS cast Powder Coated. I also use the TAC 30 and 30x39 with powder coated cast. 1680 makes a good powder for super sonic and H-110 for subs. With the Armalite AR-10 I use the 308 or 260.

Hey Rapier, I'm also NW Fl in Santa Rosa County. Doing hog control for several farmers and ranchers. I use a suppressed Ruger SR556 Takedown in 300 Blackout with handloaded Barnes 110gr blacktips and a FLIR thermal. Killed my 55th hog a few nights ago. Here she is:

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Here's #52: The hole in the neck and then the bullet broke a leg were from a finishing off shot through the head. The sows grow big from all the peanut crops they eat.

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[lksmith]

Hogs aren't hard to kill.

https://i.imgur.com/lw7duvS.jpg

Some Arkansas hogs are! I had a sow about 150# that took a shoulder shot and 2 head shots from a 300blk sub (240gr cast) to knock her out.
Went back to get the ATV and when I got back she was up for more. took 6 more shots to the head with a 45 to put her out for good. Dang glad she was in a trap and not charging!

[lksmith]

Hi all.

In trying to figure out moving, I have one option that has some advantages that I'm looking at, moving to an area that has feral hogs. None of those in this state so I am not displeased :)

I could use a 30-06 or 308 for those, with CB's I imagine it'd work nicely, but may be overkill? (Heresy, I know.)

If you were in a wild hog area and could dedicate an AR to the task, what caliber(s) seem to be the most applicable for folks?

Terrain is largely open from pics I have seen, with a few lone and clumped / thickets trees/brush. So I suspect longer shots are possible.

I have a good "organic rangefinder and ballistic computer" so I'm not afraid of a slower round with some drop, I've eyeballed rockchucks and coyotes out a long ways so 200 yards with a 300 BO should be easy. Not sure I'll get much further out than that, more to learn.

For quiet, hard to beat a 300blk with subs. You can do supers in 300BO as well 125grbullet at 2300FPS is quite effective.
I have built 2 AR's specifically for hogs One in 300BLK with night vision and a 458 socom. At about 100yds with subs and a suppressor, you can pick off hogs well with a 300blk. The ones I have shot that weren't aware dropped, and didn't squeal until I got up to them. The others just ran a little way and came back.
Haven't shot one with 458socom yet (only gun I didn't lose in the boating accident ;) ) but I have a pretty stout load of 300gr cast @ 2030fps that puts it firmly in 45-70 range in a light 10shot semi auto. should anchor about anything pretty well. Just have to do some accuracy testing on it, but low variation and no pressure signs are promising. My 405's have been all over the place and the 500 subs are a work in progress

[lksmith]

With the Armalite AR-10 I use the 308 or 260.

I had built a 6.5CM "for my wife" was wanting 260 since I already had Brass, bullets and dies from when I had bought out an old guy that was getting out of reloading. But the barrels were $100-200 more than 6.5CM and both are nearly identical in ballistics.

[Dom]

My 260 Rem & Barnes 120gr TSX/TTSX have been taking elk every season for years. Complete penetration thru both shoulders. Should handle pigs. The 260 Rem is available in an AR style rifle.

[popper]

G.S. got a 200# sow last weekend with 223, don't know the details but it worked fine.