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rintinglen
03-19-2021, 12:57 PM
Although the current ammo shortage gets a lot of attention, handgun prices are also waaaaay up there. I bought a Ruger 44 Spl Gp100 about a year and half ago, New, for $569 + tax out the door. Now, if I could find one, it would be at least $300 more. Glocks that were 479 bucks not long ago are now touching on 700 dollars. Even the forgotten 38 Special S&W model 10's are running near to five Benjamins. A Super Black Hawk for $1,000?
Yikes! sure glad I bought mine when I did.

jdfoxinc
03-19-2021, 01:01 PM
Just bought 2 high cap. Kel Tec pistols for slightly over MSRP. Will be kept NIB until I see which way the winds blow.

Froogal
03-19-2021, 01:16 PM
Just recently I paid $450 for a brand new Cimarron single action army in .357, and around $750 for a Ruger PC carbine. Pretty much what both of those were priced at a few years ago.

SSGOldfart
03-19-2021, 01:22 PM
I guess it depends on where you shop I picked up a Ruger American for under$350 In 7mm-08.(new)

beagle
03-19-2021, 04:30 PM
Was in a LGS about a month ago and ran into a shooting partner. He was looking at a USED Blackhawk .357/9mm convertible with a price tag of $900 on it. He's not into pistols so I kicked his shin and we went out and talked. He came back in enlightened and passed it up. Same guy had an 03A3 Springfield for $1600 on the rack. It's still there as far as I know. Some sellers are nuts./beagle

VariableRecall
03-19-2021, 05:31 PM
Although the current ammo shortage gets a lot of attention, handgun prices are also waaaaay up there.
Even the forgotten 38 Special S&W model 10's are running near to five Benjamins. A Super Black Hawk for $1,000?
Yikes! sure glad I bought mine when I did.

I paid $450 for my Model 10-5 around August 2020. Paid less for it with all the finish wear on it but I'm darn lucky to get one for that price AND in perfect mechanical shape to begin with.

Also, 38 Special is now teetering around 90 cents a round on Ammoseek. These are troublesome times.

uscra112
03-19-2021, 06:25 PM
Just wait until the general inflation sets in due to all this insane spending the evil party is doing. Gas is already up. Staple foods already up. Electricity is already up. We are in for some "interesting times".

yovinny
03-19-2021, 06:38 PM
I paid $450 for my Model 10-5 around August 2020. Paid less for it with all the finish wear on it but I'm darn lucky to get one for that price AND in perfect mechanical shape to begin with.

Also, 38 Special is now teetering around 90 cents a round on Ammoseek. These are troublesome times.

And to think,, back in 96' when we closed the gun store,, I passed on boxes full of model 10 Smiths,, because they were hardly worth the $25.ea to put on my NY license...

I still have a half dozen older 10's,, victory models, etc, that were just too nice to pass up.
But after everybody and their brother trading them in for glocks,, we had them coming out our ears and were down to trading a max of 2 boxes of 9mm ball for them....

Winger Ed.
03-19-2021, 07:11 PM
I don't know if it was a good deal or not, but a week or so ago I bought a 1980 issue NIB Ruger MKI .22 target model
with a 2nd. mag. original box & paper work, and was out the door for $500.

I didn't think it was a great deal, but I always wanted one, and just couldn't leave it there.

uscra112
03-19-2021, 07:13 PM
Holding tangible goods is the classical hedge against inflation.

Drm50
03-19-2021, 08:07 PM
Exactly right, back in 70s Wall Street Journal had article about guns, gold and real estate being a hedge against inflation. This is unique time in history to by guns that will be quasi collector items.
The milled and forged older stuff , name brand and hi condition will rise in value enough to break even.

uscra112
03-19-2021, 08:10 PM
Sometime around 2006 I realized that my lead holdings had appreciated more % than gold.

Art in Colorado
03-19-2021, 08:38 PM
Local gun store has a Single Action Ruger 44 speceal in the consignment case for $900. Benn ther for quite awhile.

sharps4590
03-19-2021, 09:04 PM
Sometime around 2006 I realized that my lead holdings had appreciated more % than gold.

I know. Last lead I bought was 20 cents a pound and I bought 500 lbs. Shoulda bought 5,000, whooda thunk it. The junk dealer probably had 50,000 lbs. as one of the local hospitals had completely rebuilt their X-Ray room. That would have been in the mid to late 90's.

Cargo
03-19-2021, 09:10 PM
Yesterday a lgs had a Blackhawk Convertible 45/45 for $1495.00

dimaprok
03-19-2021, 11:01 PM
Just recently I paid $450 for a brand new Cimarron single action army in .357, and around $750 for a Ruger PC carbine. Pretty much what both of those were priced at a few years ago.Nah, about 3 years ago I bought Ruger Carbine PC9 for low $400. This was before they came out with new handguard.

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Texas by God
03-19-2021, 11:23 PM
The $200 Ruger Wrangler is a very good deal in my opinion. My latest S&W model 10-7 .38 Special police re-import cost me $425- and I was glad to get it. Two years ago I got a S&W model 15 for $300. The inexpensive police trade in revolvers seem to be gone. You have to need the money bad to lose money on good guns- in the past and especially now.

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samari46
03-19-2021, 11:59 PM
I bought my S&W model 10 heavy barrel when I lived in NY. No one wanted them as the wonder nines were all the rage back then. Cost?, $100. If I had known then what I know now I would have bought a bunch of them and squirreled them away. But that was then and this is now. One only has to see some of the junk being imported from Ethiopia and what RTI is getting for said junk. Frank

Cosmic_Charlie
03-20-2021, 04:32 AM
There was a Glock 34 gen 5 mos on GB a few days back for $750. Was tempted because all the other ones were $850 - $900. But I'm going to cool my jets on new guns until this ammo situation is resolved. Was getting 9mm for $188 shipped a year ago.

GasGuzzler
03-20-2021, 06:00 AM
Kel-Tec Sub2000's have gone stupid too. They used to be for sale everywhere for $459 new, $400 used. Now no used to be had and new ones are $700.

Guess that's because they're scary.

uscra112
03-20-2021, 06:15 AM
And Deedee Feinswine wants 'em banned. BUT if you get yours before the new law kicks in, it'll be grandfathered.

Targa
03-20-2021, 08:27 PM
They are only that expensive if you buy it. As for me? I’ll wait.

uscra112
03-20-2021, 08:31 PM
Wait until you aren't allowed to buy one at all?

dtknowles
03-20-2021, 11:38 PM
Wait until you aren't allowed to buy one at all?

If you aren't allowed to buy one, they nobody can sell one either. You can't get a penny for one.

Tim

VariableRecall
03-21-2021, 02:44 AM
And to think,, back in 96' when we closed the gun store,, I passed on boxes full of model 10 Smiths,, because they were hardly worth the $25.ea to put on my NY license...

I still have a half dozen older 10's,, victory models, etc, that were just too nice to pass up.
But after everybody and their brother trading them in for glocks,, we had them coming out our ears and were down to trading a max of 2 boxes of 9mm ball for them....

I was still in diapers then! If only I could get my hands on a Victory model for a reasonable price! My preference with a 5in Barrel w/half moon sights, originally chambered in .38 Special, few to no import marks, and without looking and operating like it took a ride in a cement mixer.

I'm very much satisfied with my 10-5 since it's by most mechanical means identical, but it would be neato to have in a collection.

charlie b
03-21-2021, 09:03 AM
You can buy guns now. Most Sportsman's and Cabela's have them in stock. And for 'normal' prices. They might not have exactly what you want, ie, model/cartridge. I can get a J frame or Glock or Sig right now if I am not picky about caliber or model. Same with ammo. They have most calibers, just might not be the exact load you want.

Why anyone would pay inflated price for gun stuff today is beyond me. Maybe they think guns and ammo will be banned? Not likely. Just wait until the supply catches up and then watch the prices fall again. Yes, we go through this every time a dem is elected pres.

Yep, durable goods increase in value. Not as much as the rate of inflation, most of the time. As in everything else, buy low, sell high. This is a time to sell, not buy.

GhostHawk
03-21-2021, 09:08 AM
I don't know if it was a good deal or not, but a week or so ago I bought a 1980 issue NIB Ruger MKI .22 target model
with a 2nd. mag. original box & paper work, and was out the door for $500.

I didn't think it was a great deal, but I always wanted one, and just couldn't leave it there.

I think I would have snapped at that also. Always liked the looks and feel of that first Ruger Mk I.

Currently my wife and I each own a Mk III 22/45 with red dot sight mounted. IMO it is about as much fun as you can legally have without going full auto, grenade launcher or destructive device. They shoot amazingly well, and the more you practice the better they get.

VariableRecall
03-22-2021, 01:48 PM
Yep, durable goods increase in value. Not as much as the rate of inflation, most of the time. As in everything else, buy low, sell high. This is a time to sell, not buy.

Honestly I couldn't be more thankful for the sellers that made my firearms ownership possible. I had to start somewhere, and I'm glad the market was able to provide what I had wanted.

samari46
03-23-2021, 12:40 AM
Just for grins and giggles was looking at the various websites that sell brass. Even mil surp brass 223/5.56, 308/7.62 Nato, and even 30-06 were in most cases out of stock. And the few that had mil surp brass were asking more than I'd be willing to pay. And forget about bullets, all I saw was out of stock. Except for the odd ball calibers. One site was selling tear down ammo, you do the tearing down because ammo was loaded incorrectly, primer or in some cases were stained or other problems. First time I saw tear down ammo. I've heard of ammo for sale as only for components though. Frank

Alferd Packer
03-23-2021, 04:12 PM
Primers at Cabelas.
St Louis area.
Ten sleeves or 1000 primers.
4.99 each or 49.00 plus tax.
Only ten sleeves max to a customer.

Four-Sixty
03-24-2021, 05:39 AM
I've been holding out for prices to fall. Its taken longer than I thought. I think sales could slow in the Summer, especially with the pent up demand for travel.

I remember 22LR being hard to find after Sandy Hook. That abated and 22LR became abundant, if for awhile only. With the way this country has gorged itself on firearms, I expect there will be a years long glut, and deals will return.

Right now, taking a break from this hobby and doing other stuff. I have relearned how enjoyable books are to read. I've read quite a few books I meant to read one day. Books like "False Alarm" put a lot of what we're going through into perspective.

A good quote I recently read; "We're not rational beings, we're rationalizing beings."

frkelly74
03-24-2021, 06:04 AM
I just know that no fewer than 5, maybe 6 times since November I have seen guns and passed on them , thought about the price and the political situation, gone back to buy and found that they were gone. I am a slow learner.

I did manage to buy one of the Taurus G2c pistols that I have been looking at for a year or more. I hesitated when they were $170 and ended up paying $300. It has taken quite a few rounds to get it broken in and running smooth.

Norske
03-24-2021, 12:39 PM
CDNN sold me a S&W 9mm EZ for $500. It should be at my gunsmith's shop tomorrow. Being on CDNN's e-mail list has advantages. A former neighbor bought a Miroku 1892 45 LC from CDNN for $900 instead of the list price near $1800. He used some of his savings to buy a Ruger SA revolver 45 LC to go with his new rifle.

Markopolo
03-24-2021, 12:55 PM
soon enough we may wish we had purchased everything we wanted.. i wonder what things will look like in a year? will we even be able to buy guns without all the book work from an individual? ammo??? components? after yesterdays statements by our new white house, things could be way different in a year. of course I am hoping everything will be challenged in court.

Krag 1901
04-02-2021, 09:20 PM
I've been thinking about buying a Rossi 92 in .44 mag butI should sell a few Pistols first. My S&Ws and Colts are worth their weight in gold today!

Cargo
04-02-2021, 09:32 PM
I think it's all in the shopping. One local shop had a Ruger NM Blackhawk 45 convertible for $1499.00 and twenty miles closer to home we found a Ruger SRH 6.5" in 10mm for $949.00. Pawn shops are making a killing because a lot of people are letting guns go because they can't find ammo.

dddddmorgan
04-02-2021, 10:54 PM
There seems to be no end to the "pirates" here locally. I have made some good friends this last year or so and they've been a great help in getting back into reloading.

The gun prices are very, very hit and miss. Our local online classified website will have the reasonable deal pop up now and then but it doesn't last long enough for me to bite.

What I have found, and I hear this is true a lot of places around the country, is that the out of the way places are the best bet.

I recently was in Mountain Home and stopped in a little mom and pop place and picked up a brand new 1911 (Turkish made) for $499, this is a solid gun that's as tight as a vault.

I've been able to pick up rimfire ammo in some of the same type places for reasonable prices as well.

lead collector
04-05-2021, 11:29 AM
My wife and I went to a small swap meet over the holiday weekend. There is always lots of junk, that is pretty much worthless, but I try and go two or three times a year, and look for bargains, and buy crap that my kids will have to sell when I die. :)
Since we live in a largely free state, guns can be traded or sold person to person with no questions ask. There are a few gun traders at this swap, so I like to look at what shows up.
Ammo of all kinds as available in small quantities, and it all shared one thing in common. All over priced! Lots or Federal auto match and bulk 550 packs. $60.00 for Federal 325 round Auto match, and $90.00 to $100.00 for 550 Federal bulk packs.
I watched a guy buy two 100 packs of large rifle primers for $17.00, so $8.50 per 100. Lots of older ammo, mostly .22's that people have pulled off their closet shelves, for sale at inflated prices.

Most Pistol ammo was a buck a round and up. Center fire rifle ammo, was priced at $1.50 per round, but one one seemed to be buying it. I did see a guy pay 20 bucks for a box of 30-30 shells that had a couple of rounds missing.
Plastic guns in 9mm and 40 s&w were stupid high, as was most everything else.
The only gun bargain that I saw, was a Smith and Wesson 15-3 that sold for $475.00. A nice old gun with minimal blue loss, and good overall condition. That price is about where they were 3 years ago in my part of the country, and less that I see model 10's selling for, these days.
All ammo in this area is gone from the shelves. Including shot gun ammo, until recently walmart got some 12 and 20 gauge bulk pack, target ammo in. It is some times on the shelf, but most times not.
This is by far the worst I have ever saw things.

Catshooter
04-06-2021, 12:02 AM
Six or so years, easily. Or it could go on this way for the rest of our lives, depending.

Or not. But the idiots in charge haven't even done anything yet on gun control, so when they do . . . six or so years I expect. Beyond that, who knows?


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