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Darklin
03-05-2021, 03:13 PM
I am new to casting but am trying to find out if there is a commercial bullet mold made for the .357 that is heavier than a 180 grain cast bullet mold? I know there is a 180 grain. The readon I am asking is I found some old data from a 45 caliber muzzleloader I now have but it shows info for a 200 and 230 grain lead cast bullet.

onelight
03-05-2021, 03:26 PM
Have you looked at molds for 35 cal rifles

Conditor22
03-05-2021, 04:20 PM
Would a heavier boolit fit in your cylinder?

onelight
03-05-2021, 04:56 PM
I may have misunderstood the op's question he mentioned a 45 cal muzzle loader so I thought he might be using some type of sabots that take 358 bullets .

NEKVT
03-05-2021, 07:09 PM
I have used the RCBS 35-200-FN in a 357 Marlin crimped over the ogive to std OAL in 357mag brass. It runs about 210 to 215gr with GC depending on alloy.

charlie b
03-05-2021, 10:41 PM
Have you looked at Accurate Molds and NOE?

Rizzo
03-06-2021, 01:30 PM
Lee mold: C358-200-RF
Note the "C" meaning it uses a gas check.

Darklin
03-06-2021, 03:07 PM
200 grain in the Lee and Lyman. Thanks. I looked through both Lee website and Lyman mold but must have missed them. Yes it is for a 45 Cal Muzzleloader with a Sabot.

Harter66
03-06-2021, 04:02 PM
358-200/35-200 Lee/RCBS .

35-250 RCBS and 358413 i think 250 gr RN Lyman

There are a couple of 220&230 gr moulds as well .

Burnt Fingers
03-07-2021, 12:31 PM
http://www.accuratemolds.com/catalog.php?page=9#catalog-anchor

Up to 315 grains.

quilbilly
03-07-2021, 06:04 PM
Midsouth Shooting Supplies carries that Lee 200 gr 35 cal. gas check mold when they can get it (currently out of stock). I just chronographed and tested for accuracy that boolit in my 357 mag. carbine. The result made me smile. Using 11.5 gr of AA-9, the mv was 1470 fps and the group at 40 yards was about 1-1/4". That boolit drops from my mold at 204 gr. before gas check.

Darklin
03-12-2021, 03:47 PM
Thanks for the info. I am using this mold for my 45 Cal Encore Muzzleloader. I found some sabots that allow you to shoot a .358 bullet in a 45 cal muzzleloader. Should increase the velocity and increase accuracy with a longer bullet.

45-70 Chevroner
03-12-2021, 05:41 PM
200 grain in the Lee and Lyman. Thanks. I looked through both Lee website and Lyman mold but must have missed them. Yes it is for a 45 Cal Muzzleloader with a Sabot.

Your muzzle loader has a fairly slow twist. A 200.gr. boolit Will be to long to stabilize, also a 45 caliber sabot will be too short for a 200 grain cast boolit. To get any kind of accuracy you will have to cut the powder load way down and that will limit your shots to short distances. I have been shooting muzzleloader for 50 years. A 158 gr. SWC a sabot is real good out to 75 yards and that's with a 1" and 48" twist. If your twist rate is slower than that a sabot boolit will not work at all.

45-70 Chevroner
03-12-2021, 06:12 PM
I looked up your rifle and it has a 1 in 28 twist, that should shoot the 200gr boolit ok but my concern is the length of the sabot.

r6487
03-15-2021, 11:28 PM
in shooting 357 long guns with 9mm suppressors most start looking for heavies in pistol bullets, then move up to 358 rifles bullets, in the classics and stickies section is a link to ideal and lyman molds. there you can see an ideal 358238 (220 gr) 358315(200 grain) and 358318(245 grain). the 358318 also has a hollow point version. i can only shoot these in a handi due to length and the handi's long throat. research posts by harrympope or 9x33r on this site. seem to remember him using a cramer 2C mold in 358 also. am limited in other 357 carbine/repeater rifles to 180/200 grainers due to overall cartridge length feeding thru actions. one of these may be the cast you are looking for, for your situation.

Darklin
03-17-2021, 10:31 AM
I looked up your rifle and it has a 1 in 28 twist, that should shoot the 200gr boolit ok but my concern is the length of the sabot.

The Sabots are just a little big over an inch from the bullet cup to the top of the pedals. Should fit a 200 nicely. The 158 sits down inside it. Thanks for the info.