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redriverhunter
12-25-2008, 12:12 PM
I am planning on getting a lee mold for my ruger 357 security six that will take as a backup when hog hunting what lee mold do you all think is best thanks
rrh

docone31
12-25-2008, 12:19 PM
358-158RF.
That is the one I use.
A great shooting mold.

725
12-25-2008, 01:06 PM
358627. It authoritative.

BCB
12-25-2008, 02:10 PM
redriverhunter,

I know you asked about Lee molds, but it you can find a Lee that is similar or the same as the Lyman 358429 (Keith 173 grains), that is the one I would purchase. It is a good shooter in my 357 handguns, 38 Special handguns, and my 1894 Marlin carbine. Good-luck...BCB

HeavyMetal
12-25-2008, 03:16 PM
The 358429 is a great boolit! But it can be to long for most current production 357's!

I have a single cavity 358429 that has been converted to HP, it works great in my Contender but is about .060 to long for my BIL's Dan Wesson Model 15.


I've never been a fan of 158 / 200 grain boolits in most 357 revolvers. I think 150's are a better deal so will suggest the RCBS 357 SWC mold!

I use one of these in conjunction with an out of production 3 banger Saeco for most of my 357 boolits! The advantage? Both work in every 357 I've ever had to feed and they've worked well.

I have seen the 358-158 RF and it looks very interesting can't go wrong with that either!

Larry Gibson
12-25-2008, 03:39 PM
I'll suggest C358-158-SWC. Yes it is a GC mould and it is similar to Lyman's 358156. That has proven to be the best .357 cast bullet for truely magnum loads. With the GC you can use a softer alloy for better performance on softer game animals like deer. For hogs you can cast them of WW + 50% lead and WQ. The Security Six is a hell for stout revolver and will take real (not excessive) magnum loads. I drive 358156 at 1500 fps from my 6" barreled SS with excellent accuracy. It then does what the .357 was meant to do before it was chambered in medium frame S&Ws and then watered down because the S&W M19s wouldn't hold up t the original magnum loads.

The Lee C358-158-SWC would be my choice.

Larry Gibson

atr
12-25-2008, 08:13 PM
158 gr SWC.....casts well and can be loaded hot

oso
12-25-2008, 08:47 PM
Ditto Larry. The Lee C358-158-SWC has a wider meplat and a shorter nose than the Lyman 358156.

Down South
12-25-2008, 11:08 PM
If you are specifically looking for a Lee Mould then I’d say the 358-158RF. Get the 6-banger if you can.
As far as the Lyman 358429, the boolit is too long for some revolvers but I think it will work in the Rugers. It works well in my GP-100. I’m not sure about the Security Six. You need to check with someone who has that combo to see how it does. I have both moulds and I prefer the 358429, but that’s just me. I don’t have any gripes about the 358-158RF. I have shot many through my 38 and 357 Mag and the boolit has preformed well.

NuJudge
12-26-2008, 09:16 AM
My Dad had a bad experience with a large, ill-tempered Russian boar many years ago. Six hits with expanding Norma .44 Magnum JHP's. All 6 were hits on the front gristle blanket on the boar's shoulders. All 6 were found in the gristle.

I would not be trying for soft bullets. I would be trying for something really hard. I would try for something as heavy as I could fit in the cylinder and still handle the recoil.

CDD

sturf
12-26-2008, 11:06 AM
The Lyman 358429 is supposed to be crimped in the grove for 38 special and on the front driving band for 357 mag. Then it will fit.

AzShooter
12-26-2008, 01:55 PM
If you go with the Lee mould get the six cavity. It sure cuts down on casting time and works real weell. I use two of the 150 grain moulds and can cast just over 300 bullets in 20 minutes. Make sure you follow the instructions and smoke the mould before using it. This way the bullets will fall out with no trouble.

skeet1
12-26-2008, 07:41 PM
One other similar mould is the old 357446 a favorite of mine. In fact it was the first mould I ever owned and I still have it. I makes great boolits.

Skeet1

MtGun44
12-26-2008, 09:01 PM
Actually, the 358429 crimped in the crimp groove works fine in most modern .357s. The
only one with short cylinders that I am aware of is the big N frame S&Ws which, paradoxically,
have the shortest .357 cyls that I know of. I do not own any Taurus or Dan Wesson
.357s, so maybe they have problems, but my RUger Sec Six, S&W L and K frames are very
happy with Elmer's .38 SPL boolit.

If you have to stick with Lee, the 158 RF shoots fine in several of my .357s, but I'd also
recommend the 358429 since you need penetration in the hog business and the heavier
boolit will penetrate deeper.

Bill

leadman
12-26-2008, 11:39 PM
More expensive than a Lee mold, but the Saeco #354 a 180 gr. RFN with gas check cast hard has very good penetration. 11.8 grs. 2400 is good for about 1,200fps in my S&W 27. This would be a good candidate for a softnose.
Wish we had hogs here to hunt. Sounds like alot of fun and at times exciting.

mikenbarb
12-27-2008, 12:21 AM
Im going to vote for a Lyman 358156HP. It can be pushed to a real high velocity plus its a hollow point and will knock them over backwards with a good alloy.:-D

beagle
12-27-2008, 12:39 AM
Better yet, a 358156 PB hollow point. Eliminates that expensive GC and you can still shoot them at Mag velocities.

Lot of us have dehorned ours and they work good./beagle

GP100man
12-27-2008, 01:00 AM
for hogs my vote is on the 358429 just hard enuff to be pushed fast enuff to do the job on hand.
i shot a 150# boar & passed thru ribs .
did`nt see the sow , she put us in the bed of the truck, clean misses on her , better than i could say for my shorts !!!!!!

GP100man

Dale53
12-27-2008, 01:39 AM
I am not interested in ANY hollow point for hogs. You want penetration, in my carefully considered opinion. A hog is definitely NOT bullet proof but the "shield" is hard on expanding bullets. A relatively heavy bullet cast of WW/2%tin will work JUST fine. I recommend the Lyman/Keith 358429 or the Lee 358-158-RF with a heavy load. I believe in "breaking bone" with a hog and this combination is about as good as you will get with the .357 Magnum. My preference would be with a good .44 or .45 but I wouldn't feel naked with a .357 properly loaded with a good bullet as specified.

It is important to know the "kill zone" on a hog to minimize "errors". Hog's tend to take a dim view of being hurt and they seem to know who applied the hurt.

Dale53

Irascible
01-02-2009, 04:49 PM
The Ruger Security Six has a long cylinder and you can use the 358429 Keith bullet crimped in the crimping groove. It makes a really affective load and quite accurate. Try it over 296/H110 if you don't mind the flash. New 2400 works well too, but don't forget it is faster burning then the old, so work up. Mag primer on the 296/H110