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tayous1
02-19-2021, 11:25 AM
I have been looking around the internet for a few weeks trying to find out load data for 45 LC I know there is a lot out there but most of them are for powder I do not own and don't know when I'll be able to get them. Powder I do own right know is 800x , 700x, 231, Clays and maybe Universal. I also have Lil'Gun but was told to use that sparingly as it might damage my revolver.

The boolits I currently cast is a 296gr, 283gr, 275 gr, 260gr, 255gr and 230gr.

The 296gr is mostly going to be for hog defense so would like some Ruger only load data for that but if you have a good non Ruger only load I'd also like to see that. 283gr and 275gr same like both Ruger only and standard load data.

As for the rest regular load data would be fine as I believe most of my plinking and fun shooting. The only load data I have been given is

10.0 gr of 800x over 300 gr anyone know the FPS I'd likely get from that? Thanks for the advice and help!

44MAG#1
02-19-2021, 11:36 AM
Have you looked at Hodgdons data, Hornady data, Speer data,
It is out there.

DougGuy
02-19-2021, 11:49 AM
Uhh I would be very wary of 10gr 800x under a 300gr boolit. 800x is only slightly slower burn than Unique, and 10gr Unique under a 300gr would all but guarantee you holding a hand grenade.

Hodgdon calls for a MAX of 7.6gr 800x under a 260gr boolit for pressure of 13,600 this would be for smokeless powder Colts, and the Italian clones. I am sure you could work up load data for higher pressure with the same boolit in a Ruger pistol, but I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the load you stated in your original post.

All of the powders you have listed are pretty fast, so no real heavy for caliber boolits over fast powders. LilGun is NOT going to hurt your 45 Colt RUGER. You may not want to use it in an Italian clone, but it will attain the 30,000psi Ruger Only loads under the 300gr boolit fairly safely. The myth about LilGun eroding forcing cones came from the 454 Casull guys who were pushing it up into the 50,000psi range, which there was some truth to that, but ONLY in guns using it to extreme levels. You won't get anywhere near that with a 45 Colt Ruger even with a max load.

Go to the powder mfgr's website and look into their load data for specific powders, all of them publish load data.

Also, exactly what revolver are you loading for?

44MAG#1
02-19-2021, 11:54 AM
According to Lyman. The 300 gr Saeco bullet is 6.1 grains Unique as 13900 CUP's.
W231 at 5.6 grains at 14000 CUP's.

John Boy
02-19-2021, 12:00 PM
Ruger Only has nothing to due for loading data of the 45LC. Care to explain why you made this posted condition?

44MAG#1
02-19-2021, 12:11 PM
Read your title very carefully.

"Looking for load data for 45 LC regular and Ruger only."

cowboy4evr
02-19-2021, 12:40 PM
I believe " Accurate Powders " internet site has what you are looking for . Regards Paul

John Boy
02-19-2021, 12:43 PM
OK, He wants data for 45LC in Ruger's only that doesn't mean spit ...
Powder Charge - Bullet Weight - Velocity (fps) - Standard Deviation - Wad - Extreme Deviation Group Size (in)
40gr FFFg
250gr
833
17.1
None
66
4
40gr FFFg
200gr
901
29.2
None
89
3 ½
40gr FFg
250gr
779
13.4
None
43
3 ½
40gr FFg
200gr
907
14.4
None
53
3
35gr FFFg
250gr
792
18.1
None
47
2
* 42gr FFg and the Ideal 454190, 255gr bullet - No wad
Smokeless ... Ideal 454190, 255gr - 6.1gr of ETR7 - No wad
All in Ruger Vaquero 3.5" or 4 5/8" barrels

or- Pick One ... http://stevespages.com/451_2.html
Or pick one ...
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP CLAYS STARLINE WIN/REM 5.9**** MAX Velocity 931 MAXIMUM LOAD******
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 8.0 855 FPS Velocity
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 9.5 1021 fps Velocity
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HP-38 STARLINE WIN/REM 8.0**** MAX LOAD velocity 1002 ****MAXIMUM LOAD*****
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP RED DOT STARLINE WLP/REM 6.0 7.0 MAX MAXIMUM LOAD******* (Aliant manual)
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP UNIQUE STARLINE WLP/REM 7.5 9.0 gr MAXIMUM (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP UNIV CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 8.8**** 8.8 MAX Velocity 1067 MAXIMUM LOAD*******
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP 2400 STARLINE WLP/REM 15.0
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP RED DOT STARLINE WLP/REM 6.0*** MAXIMUM (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP UNIV CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 6.5 7.8 MAX Velocity 941 - MAXIMUM LOAD - go no higher than 7.5
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 4.2 5.1 gr MAXIMUM
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP IMR 4227 STARLINE WLP/REM 18.5 Crimp tightly
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP TITEGROUP STARLINE WLP/REM 5.3 6.2 gr MAXIMUM LOAD Velocity 881
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP UNIQUE STARLINE WLP/REM 7.5 8.0 gr MAXIMUM - 7.5 gr MAX (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 260 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 10 850 FPS Velocity

DougGuy
02-19-2021, 06:42 PM
Great. So John Boy is miffed about folks posting Ruger Only data, so he posts BP data that the OP didn't ask for, then floods the post with data for a 200gr boolit that the OP doesn't list in the boolits he asked for data for. I would kindly suggest you bow out of this thread sir, rather than post conflicting and totally irrelevant information.

44MAG#1
02-19-2021, 08:48 PM
There is no need for anyone to get upset. There is PLENTY of data out there that is reliable if the OP will just look.
It is a lot different than when I started reloading/handloading. One had to dig deep to find data and get information. Now it is just a few clicks away.
So much easier now. Most bullet companies have data on their sites.

Der Gebirgsjager
02-19-2021, 09:01 PM
Let's go easy here. More data is always good data, and if not right now, maybe later. No need to get huffy.

DG

alamogunr
02-19-2021, 09:08 PM
I would suggest that the OP acquire a couple of GOOD load manuals. My favorites are Lyman Cast Bullet Manual and even though it is not focused on cast bullets, the Western Powders manual has good info.

The Lyman #1, 2 and 3 all have good information. #1 & 2 may be hard to find.

BigAlofPa.
02-19-2021, 09:09 PM
Not to be rude. But why do some folks refuse to use loading books? I have a library at my finger tips.

alamogunr
02-19-2021, 09:43 PM
Not to be rude. But why do some folks refuse to use loading books? I have a library at my finger tips.

Your reply was definitely not rude. John Boy came close as pointed out by DougGuy. I would never try to post loads on line. They never reproduce in a readable format. It is always messed up.

As BigAl pointed out, several load manuals are always beneficial. I even look up loads in the "one and only" RCBS Cast Bullet Manual.

Minerat
02-19-2021, 09:47 PM
John Boy are those BP loads weight or volume?

44MAG#1
02-19-2021, 10:11 PM
When one is on a strict budget I understand not wanting to buy reloading manuals but it is best to do so. One can cross reference them, read the text on the cartridge before looking at the data and can learn alot by reading the manual.
But it is cheaper and easier to come on a website and ask about data.
I still do most of the leg work on my reloading/handloading. I have learned to be careful and to know nothing is concrete fact no matter where it comes from, ballistic lab or from any individual. Slowly, carefully and studying is the way to go.
Also Occams Razor is very valuable.

BigAlofPa.
02-19-2021, 11:37 PM
The Lyman 3rd cast is one of my faves. It has data the 4th does not. You can get reprints of old books here. https://www.cornellpubs.com/index.php

I ordered a Lymans 3rd because mine is falling apart. Lymans 50th and lee's latest is good too. I like Hornadys because they break down FPS For varied powder weights. Speers has some of the newest powders like Aliant's sport pistol.

P Flados
02-20-2021, 02:06 AM
Poking around at your other postings, it looks like this is for a Ruger Redhawk and the heavies are from your MP .452-275 mold.

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/45-colt-carbine-275-grain-hollow-point-mold-multi-choice/.

There is data out there, but it may not be for your specific desired bullets. If you are worried about using this data, I will walk you through what I would do.

First I went out and I found that of your powders Lil gun seems to be the best bet for good velocity for Ruger Only loads. Then I found what looks to be good data for Ruger only loads and Lil gun at the link below. I really try to use load data with pressure test results when ever possible.

https://www.rugerforum.net/threads/45-colt-ruger-only-reload-data-for-h110-lilgun.75519/

Using cast where the only comparable loads are listed with a jacketed bullet should be OK, but only when you deal with any potential change in seating depth. For high pressure loads like your desired Ruger only loads, bullet seating depth really matters.

For all of your 275 to 296 gr bullets you should probably use the 300 gr Speer load for reference. Quickload says that the Speer 300 gr bullet is 0.732" long (0.348" seating depth at Hodgdon's 1.650 OAL). If your bullet is longer, add the difference to the 1.650" for your "Min OAL". If you can not load this long, you should reduce your charge. I used Quickload to estimate that dropping 0.5 gr would compensate for a 0.030" shorter AOL on the Speer 300 load.

For your 260 gr and less bullets you can probably use the 260 gr Nosler load for reference. Quickload says that the Nosler bullet is 0.797" long (0.413" seating depth at Hodgdon's 1.650" OAL). For this bullet, I used Quickload to estimate that dropping 0.5 grs would compensate for a 0.025" reduction in OAL.

For regular 45 Colt loads, your gun has lots of margin, so there is negligible worry over seating depth. Just use the 300 gr load for reference with your heavies and the 260 gr load for reference for your lighter bullets. Based on my experience with lighter loads in 44 mag and 45 Colt, I would recommend you try out one of your lighter bullets and the 700x load. Hodgdon data for a 7.25" barrel includes:

7.3 gr Universal under a 300 gr for 700 fps

5.2 gr 700x under a 260 gr for 714 fps
7.1 gr 231 under a 260 gr for 787 fps
8.0 gr Universal under a 260 gr for 813 fps
7.6 gr 800x under a 260 gr for 803 fps

tayous1
02-20-2021, 05:08 AM
Read your title very carefully.

"Looking for load data for 45 LC regular and Ruger only."

So all the manuals I have separate SSA or regular loads from Ruger only loads! Are the manuals wrong then?

I have asked this at several other sites and get the response "Is it a Ruger?" "You want Ruger only load data?"

So I don't understand why me asking for regular and Ruger only data is a problem?

tayous1
02-20-2021, 05:15 AM
Not to be rude. But why do some folks refuse to use loading books? I have a library at my finger tips.

No not rude at all! I have a few reloading manuals and spent around $100 on ones just for this 45 LC and none of them give me the information I need be it powder or boolit weight!

I have posted on here about good manuals and did get one or two response. I can't afford as much as I'd like to have a library of books of reloading that do not tell me the information I need. That's why I ask here!

I mostly cast and reloaded for 40,45 and 9mm this is my first time with something I could even use black powder with. The manuals I have do have load data for the 45LC but the powder or the weight are not right.

tayous1
02-20-2021, 05:17 AM
I would suggest that the OP acquire a couple of GOOD load manuals. My favorites are Lyman Cast Bullet Manual and even though it is not focused on cast bullets, the Western Powders manual has good info.

The Lyman #1, 2 and 3 all have good information. #1 & 2 may be hard to find.

Thanks that's good information! I have several manuals but they are more geared to the semi auto I load. The other manuals I bought don't have the weight or powder date I need.

tayous1
02-20-2021, 05:22 AM
OK, He wants data for 45LC in Ruger's only that doesn't mean spit ...
Powder Charge - Bullet Weight - Velocity (fps) - Standard Deviation - Wad - Extreme Deviation Group Size (in)
40gr FFFg
250gr
833
17.1
None
66
4
40gr FFFg
200gr
901
29.2
None
89
3 ½
40gr FFg
250gr
779
13.4
None
43
3 ½
40gr FFg
200gr
907
14.4
None
53
3
35gr FFFg
250gr
792
18.1
None
47
2
* 42gr FFg and the Ideal 454190, 255gr bullet - No wad
Smokeless ... Ideal 454190, 255gr - 6.1gr of ETR7 - No wad
All in Ruger Vaquero 3.5" or 4 5/8" barrels

or- Pick One ... http://stevespages.com/451_2.html
Or pick one ...
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP CLAYS STARLINE WIN/REM 5.9**** MAX Velocity 931 MAXIMUM LOAD******
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 8.0 855 FPS Velocity
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 9.5 1021 fps Velocity
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP HP-38 STARLINE WIN/REM 8.0**** MAX LOAD velocity 1002 ****MAXIMUM LOAD*****
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP RED DOT STARLINE WLP/REM 6.0 7.0 MAX MAXIMUM LOAD******* (Aliant manual)
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP UNIQUE STARLINE WLP/REM 7.5 9.0 gr MAXIMUM (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 200 gr LRNFP UNIV CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 8.8**** 8.8 MAX Velocity 1067 MAXIMUM LOAD*******
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP 2400 STARLINE WLP/REM 15.0
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP RED DOT STARLINE WLP/REM 6.0*** MAXIMUM (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 250 gr LRNFP UNIV CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 6.5 7.8 MAX Velocity 941 - MAXIMUM LOAD - go no higher than 7.5
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP CLAYS STARLINE WLP/REM 4.2 5.1 gr MAXIMUM
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP IMR 4227 STARLINE WLP/REM 18.5 Crimp tightly
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP TITEGROUP STARLINE WLP/REM 5.3 6.2 gr MAXIMUM LOAD Velocity 881
Cowboy Revolver 255 gr LRNFP UNIQUE STARLINE WLP/REM 7.5 8.0 gr MAXIMUM - 7.5 gr MAX (Aliant Manual)
Cowboy Revolver 260 gr LRNFP HERCO STARLINE WLP/REM 10 850 FPS Velocity

Well thank you sir! Yet your near 100 gr light on the boolit with that load data. Sure loading that amount in to a almost 300 gr boolits would show a lot of pressure!

I thank you for your help and experience seeing that your a grand boolite master and all I'm honored to have you reply to my post.

DougGuy
02-20-2021, 05:49 AM
So all the manuals I have separate SSA or regular loads from Ruger only loads! Are the manuals wrong then?

I have asked this at several other sites and get the response "Is it a Ruger?" "You want Ruger only load data?"

So I don't understand why me asking for regular and Ruger only data is a problem?

No, the manuals are not wrong separating the two levels of power, one level for an old Colt or Italian clones, and an upper more powerful level for a Ruger, and there are others that will happily shoot the 39kpsi "Ruger Only" loads. Hodgdon separates their data as well, go look on their site for data for Hodgdon powder.

AND, you are CORRECT in asking for both sets of data! When someone asks for 45 Colt data, my first question is "What gun?"

Now, LOL let me confuse things even farther.. There are TWO levels of power for the Rugers! First, the more powerful and generally referred to as "Ruger Only" loads which max out at 30,000psi, are meant for the full sized Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Original Vaquero, and the Redhawk. The single action Rugers that are full sized frames have a TWO DIGIT prefix in their serial number. The ratchet star boss on the rear of the cylinder is round.

Since 2005, Ruger has made a medium framed Vaquero, Flattop Blackhawk, these are smaller frames, smaller cylinders and thinner cylinder walls, which are rated to the same as 45 ACP+P pressure of 23,000psi, and are NOT SAFE with the 30,000psi "Ruger Only" loads. These models have a THREE DIGIT prefix in their serial number. The ratchet star boss on the rear of the cylinder is scalloped.

The load data and power level most associated with these medium frame Rugers are known as "Tier 2" and since SAAMI never adopted a +P designation for warmed over loads for the original 45 Colt guns, there is virtually NO published Tier 2 or 45 Colt+P load data, you have to scrounge the gun pages on the internet and get what you can find. Brian Pearce's articles on Tier 2 45 Colt is pretty much accepted as the Gold Standard of load data for these guns.

I might also add that the medium frame Rugers produced with Ruger's latest design changes that put the lawyer warning on the bottom of the barrel to make it less conspicuous are without a doubt the BEST fitted and finshed guns that Ruger has EVER produced.

tayous1
02-20-2021, 06:10 AM
No, the manuals are not wrong separating the two levels of power, one level for an old Colt or Italian clones, and an upper more powerful level for a Ruger, and there are others that will happily shoot the 39kpsi "Ruger Only" loads. Hodgdon separates their data as well, go look on their site for data for Hodgdon powder.

AND, you are CORRECT in asking for both sets of data! When someone asks for 45 Colt data, my first question is "What gun?"

Now, LOL let me confuse things even farther.. There are TWO levels of power for the Rugers! First, the more powerful and generally referred to as "Ruger Only" loads which max out at 30,000psi, are meant for the full sized Blackhawk, Super Blackhawk, Original Vaquero, and the Redhawk. The single action Rugers that are full sized frames have a TWO DIGIT prefix in their serial number. The ratchet star boss on the rear of the cylinder is round.

Since 2005, Ruger has made a medium framed Vaquero, Flattop Blackhawk, these are smaller frames, smaller cylinders and thinner cylinder walls, which are rated to the same as 45 ACP+P pressure of 23,000psi, and are NOT SAFE with the 30,000psi "Ruger Only" loads. These models have a THREE DIGIT prefix in their serial number. The ratchet star boss on the rear of the cylinder is scalloped.

The load data and power level most associated with these medium frame Rugers are known as "Tier 2" and since SAAMI never adopted a +P designation for warmed over loads for the original 45 Colt guns, there is virtually NO published Tier 2 or 45 Colt+P load data, you have to scrounge the gun pages on the internet and get what you can find. Brian Pearce's articles on Tier 2 45 Colt is pretty much accepted as the Gold Standard of load data for these guns.

I might also add that the medium frame Rugers produced with Ruger's latest design changes that put the lawyer warning on the bottom of the barrel to make it less conspicuous are without a doubt the BEST fitted and finshed guns that Ruger has EVER produced.

Wow thank you for that information and history. So how do I know if mine is a tier two? It seems to be a newer weapon but I have bought a 10 year old P226 stainless steel Germany made that still had the packing grease on it.

The heaviest load I have shot out of it is a 18.0-18.5 on top a 296 gr solid I had no problems with the brass it did kick and it did hit hard! When I did a double tap it moved my steel target on a tripod enough that the snow and dirt shower where it was before.

Also have your heard anything about the flame cutting with Lil Gun? Thanks again!

onelight
02-20-2021, 06:26 AM
The full sized blackhawk has raised bolsters on the frame that the rear sight fits between the 2 digit prefix on the serial # , the smaller framed model does not have the bolsters the sight base is cut into a flat topped frame 3 digit prefix.

tayous1
02-20-2021, 06:29 AM
The full sized blackhawk has raised bolsters on the frame that the rear sight fits between the 2 digit prefix on the serial # , the smaller framed model does not have the bolsters the sight base is cut into a flat topped frame 3 digit prefix.

Does this also go for the Redhawk? That's what I have.

onelight
02-20-2021, 06:37 AM
Does this also go for the Redhawk? That's what I have.
Nope the Redhawk 45 colt will take Ruger only loads

tayous1
02-20-2021, 07:09 AM
Nope the Redhawk 45 colt will take Ruger only loads

Thanks! I'm new to wheel gun reloading. Yet 100% of my reloading has been deducted to 357 and 45LC these days!

It's been 5 years since I had the room to cast and reload as I said I mostly did it for semi auto and my 223 and 308! So straight walls are new to me so is all the load data and manuals that I need to reload!

Thanks for your help!

DougGuy
02-20-2021, 08:16 AM
Wow thank you for that information and history. So how do I know if mine is a tier two? It seems to be a newer weapon but I have bought a 10 year old P226 stainless steel Germany made that still had the packing grease on it.

The heaviest load I have shot out of it is a 18.0-18.5 on top a 296 gr solid I had no problems with the brass it did kick and it did hit hard! When I did a double tap it moved my steel target on a tripod enough that the snow and dirt shower where it was before.

Also have your heard anything about the flame cutting with Lil Gun? Thanks again!

Have you not read anything I posted? I have already addressed the LilGun issue in an earlier reply.

I just got finished describing how you can tell the original stronger large frame Rugers from the lesser medium frame guns.

onelight also posted how you can tell the Blackhawks apart.

You have to READ these things you know.

Now 2 pages into this thread we find out you are loading for a Redhawk. Is this the only 45 Colt revolver you are loading for?

44MAG#1
02-20-2021, 08:38 AM
Redhawks are strong. Get yourself a box of these.

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/45rho+ptech.html

tayous1
02-20-2021, 10:47 AM
Redhawks are strong. Get yourself a box of these.

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/45rho+ptech.html

Nice but not spending $100 for 50 rounds. I know 400gr rounds but $100 for 50 rounds!

onelight
02-20-2021, 10:49 AM
Nice but not spending $100 for 50 rounds. I know 400gr rounds but $100 for 50 rounds!
I am with you on that !
That's why we reload :)

44MAG#1
02-20-2021, 10:54 AM
How much for 50 rounds of high quality 45 Auto, or 9MM round now?
Compare what you get in them with what you get in the Garrett's. If one can afford a big game hunt for trophy bear, or African game the price of Garrett's is miniscule.

John Boy
02-20-2021, 03:26 PM
John Boy are those BP loads weight or volume?
Minerat, all the BP charges are by weight

bangerjim
02-20-2021, 03:42 PM
To the OP.................( and anybody else out there listening)..............never EVER use load data posted on a forum like this. These are good guys & gals on here, but just do not trust unproven load data from a public forum.

Buy the load manuals! Be safe! I have a shelf full of them and all the downloadable data from the MANY powder makers' websites (all free). LOTS of data out there. I keep it all together in one big 3-ring binder, tabulated by caliber, which is my "loading bible" for all cals/weights/profiles I load and shoot. One of the most valuable books I own.

If you cannot afford a couple of good load data manuals, how are you going to afford this hobby?

Please.............. save your body parts and buy the appropriate published load data manuals and do some research. Then, you can weigh, with knowledge, the data you are given on the several public forums out there. I did, and I now load all the weights you listed above for my 45LC guns/rifles up thru 300gn with absolutely no problem.

Good luck on your quest! And be safe!

bangerjim :guntootsmiley:

44MAG#1
02-20-2021, 07:06 PM
I like a 310 grain LFN cast bullet seated deep 1.520 inches OAL over a moderate charge of 2400.
I loaded 8 rounds the the other day and shot them offhand at 25 yards and the 8 shots from the center of the group was Mean (averaged) 1.2122 inches with an Extreme Spread of the sample of 1.4375 and a Standard Deviation of the sample of .43422 inches.
Of course I will have to load up more to test as It was cold and me being in my elderly years did not want to submit myself to the cold anymore that I needed to.

WALLNUTT
02-20-2021, 09:47 PM
Here's a good read: http://reloadammo.com/45cload.htm

M-Tecs
02-20-2021, 10:12 PM
That SAAMI max for the 45 Colt is 14,000 PSI based on the older Colt 1873 Peacemakers. Those are safe in all 45 Colt platforms. Higher pressure 45 Colt loads are perfectly safe in numerous other platforms but not in the older Colt designs.

Doug covered the Rugers very well.

https://www.johnlinebaughcustomsixguns.com/writings

https://chuckhawks.com/high-pressure45.htm

http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt45lc.htm

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/45-colt-load-data/370003

Ziptar
02-24-2021, 03:24 AM
I'll also add
Handloader Issues
#246 April 2007 https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/handloader-246-april-2007/
#275 December 2011 https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/handloader-275-december-2011/

A couple of very good reads on heavy 45 Colt loading and Rugers. I have hard copies from a subscription, I go back and reread them when thinking about what loads I want to try next. Worth it to pay the back issue price IMHO. PDFs are still out there if you look around, I'd share links but I think it's against forums rules.

tayous1
02-26-2021, 08:50 AM
That SAAMI max for the 45 Colt is 14,000 PSI based on the older Colt 1873 Peacemakers. Those are safe in all 45 Colt platforms. Higher pressure 45 Colt loads are perfectly safe in numerous other platforms but not in the older Colt designs.

Doug covered the Rugers very well.

https://www.johnlinebaughcustomsixguns.com/writings

https://chuckhawks.com/high-pressure45.htm

http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt45lc.htm

https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/45-colt-load-data/370003

Thanks I'll take a look at them what I skimmed it seems like a lot of good information.

tayous1
02-26-2021, 08:56 AM
I'll also add
Handloader Issues
#246 April 2007 https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/handloader-246-april-2007/
#275 December 2011 https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/handloader-275-december-2011/

A couple of very good reads on heavy 45 Colt loading and Rugers. I have hard copies from a subscription, I go back and reread them when thinking about what loads I want to try next. Worth it to pay the back issue price IMHO. PDFs are still out there if you look around, I'd share links but I think it's against forums rules.

See now the two magazine you listed would be a good buy even at $10 each.

I want to find more information like this just about the 45 LC. As I said these hot rounds are only going to be used every so often keep skill up using heavy rounds with high recoil and if I ever need them for a hog.

Mostly going to shoot for fun the Lee 452 255 gr that I just received it does cast more to 260 gr but that's also fine. I also feel that the 260 gr would be a nice light SD round on hogs.

ulav8r
02-26-2021, 07:00 PM
A 300 grain bullet at 800 fps will not slow down very much as it travels through the length of a hog. No need to worry about achieving the maximum velocity possible.

Castaway
02-26-2021, 07:13 PM
Deer and hogs go down easy with the Lee 255 RNFP. Only two hogs with a pistol, but with I’ve dropped several hogs and deer using that bullet in my Winchester. Even took a deer with in loaded in a sabot with my muzzle loader. Each year, I have a buddy that comes by to get a handful for muzzle loader season. Doesn’t want to use anything else

onelight
02-27-2021, 10:17 AM
I found this sight the other day while goofing around . A lot of standard pressure data in the powder manufactures section.
https://shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/

44MAG#1
02-27-2021, 10:29 AM
There is plenty of data for both levels of 45 Colt. If one looks.

onelight
02-27-2021, 10:40 AM
There is plenty of data for both levels of 45 Colt. If one looks.
You are right , I didn't look close enough. A lot of data for really light bullets to.