Abandon ship the pirates are here

[Bad Ass Wallace]

I realise prices are going up but $241 for a double cavity Lyman 311284 is piracy!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LYMAN-RIFLE-MOULD-DOUBLE-CAVITY-30-CAL-210-GR-LY-M60284/264673479746?epid=23020119775&hash=item3d9fc4cc42:g:rrEAAOSwAS1edDLI

[farmbif]

that's absurd. might be time to liquidate the old Lyman molds I don't use often.
what those people that spend the big bucks on eBay don't realize there are probably at least a half dozen custom mold makers that will produce pretty much just about whatever you want for the same price they were charging 6-10 months ago.

[MrHarmless]

I'm seeing Lee die sets go for upwards of 100 dollars. It's ridiculous to me that they're selling at those prices.

What really made me laugh recently was that every blackpowder firearm on one website I checked was sold out... People are out there so desperate to be armed they've strapped up with ye olde musketoons and pepperboxes.

[StuBach]

My dad’s Greater Fool theory, the greater fool pays more for something. On eBay it’s really easy to see this principal at work I’m not usually a great enough fool to bid higher than others for something cause I know what something is worth to me before I start bidding and don’t exceed that. To others the $40 I paid for a Lyman SC 311412 seemed high then (5 years ago) but it was worth it to me to re-collect the one mold missing to my grandfathers set. Sentimentality made me the greater fool then.

Panic buying is creating a lot of fools nowadays. Hold tight and you will likely benefit in the long run. If you have stuff to offload, please be fair to your fellow casters on here first but if that doesn’t work, eBay is truly the great equalizer because it simply is who’s willing to pay more for something.

[brewer12345]

I have been meaning to organize my molds. Now I need to organize them and figure out which ones I don't use.

[Winger Ed.]

I realise prices are going up but $241 for a double cavity Lyman 311284 is piracy!

Well, the good news is he's got two of 'em.:!:

[TjB101]

Guilty ... I had to ramp up to load for a new 44mag Henry I bought. Most all components I got at a decent price except for dies. 4 piece carbide die was 85 bucks ... yup I paid it. Brass, and a 200gr mold were priced right. Primers and powder I’m set for a few years. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

[Land Owner]

A fool and his money are easily parted - and I used that phrase loosely as those that KNOW true value are at times compromised by supply and demand.

In theory, if all of the world's capital was evenly distributed to every person, all at once in a free market, within months that capital would redistribute and concentrate back into the hands of those who had amassed it before.

As Supplies decrease, and Demands increase, so too does Cost increase to those who seek. Make hay while the sun shines. Guns and Ammo are Big Business these days.

[Lloyd Smale]

I think maybe some want guy socialism where the goverment hands out an equal amount to everyone for free and they pay for it with our tax money. Like landowner said its supply and demand. Crying about prices doesnt help. If you want it its you that has to decide if 200 dollars for a brick of primers is worth it or not. I dont need them (at least for years) so it doesnt consern me but if i needed some 9mm to defend my family and didnt have them id pay what it takes. What choice is there. Around here anyway you sure arent buying factory stuff at ANY price. Think of it like this. If tommarow the goverment banned gas cars and said they only way you can drive to work is with an electric one. What do you think would happen to the price of those few electric cars on the lots. What if they banned natural gas and propane for home heating. what would happen to the price of solar or wood? Its just part of free enterprise and anything else is socialism. Well i guess in a way just banning those things is socialism too. So instead of calling it names lets just say its the way things work. If all a guy needs is primers paying 200 bucks for a brick of a 1000 gets you 20 boxes of 9mm. So your talking 10 bucks a box not factoring in what you already have like powder. Most of us have brass and have lead. Now show me where 9mm is even 15 bucks a box of 50 if you need powder too. You wouldnt even have to show me because there would be a block long line up in front of the gun shop to buy it. Me? ill ride it out. Ive got plenty and when OR IF things go back to normal ill buy even more. Until then i just cut my shooting back from 3 times a week to once a week. I have enough to shoot the rest of my life at that rate sitting in the shop.

[MrWolf]

Saw the prices for single cavity mold and laughed. As was stated, you can get a very nice mould from the various makers. I am trying out Accurate for the first time. I did want a pistol that I finally found and did pay a hundred or so more for it but, oh well, they said it was in stock so we will see.

[VariableRecall]

I realise prices are going up but $241 for a double cavity Lyman 311284 is piracy!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LYMAN-RIFLE-MOULD-DOUBLE-CAVITY-30-CAL-210-GR-LY-M60284/264673479746?epid=23020119775&hash=item3d9fc4cc42:g:rrEAAOSwAS1edDLI

I suppose that another factor is the fact that you are living in Australia, and you're relying on relatively local supplies of such products or face the horrors of international shipping.

[Dunross]

I have a policy of dropping out of bidding when a used mold approaches to within 20% of what I can order the same number of cavities in the same mold material from a reputable custom mold maker for. Watched a Lyman 311008 go for more than I could have ordered a better design with the same number of cavities in iron from Accurate for. Of course, Accurate is now six weeks out (last I looked) on their molds so that factors in as well.

Prices on everything are crazy right now. Some of the starting prices on Lee molds are laugh out loud.

[Targa]

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[Targa]

I'm seeing Lee die sets go for upwards of 100 dollars. It's ridiculous to me that they're selling at those prices.

Yeh, it’s getting silly. I am a bit embarrassed to say that I bought a four die set for .38Special for $60.

[John Boy]

That’s AU dollars. US is $186, still high

[Land Owner]

It's a Seller's Market boys! For those with large inventory from previous hording, and maybe advancing in age to a point where the Safe Queens deserve better, it suggests the time is ripe for some retirement profit taking.

[stubert]

I just ordered a mold from NOE, same price as it was last year. 4 cav. brass for $116.00. Why would anyone pay that kind of money for a Lyman?

[mdi]

Yep, totally panic, crazy. I was surfing the other day and found a site that had reloading manuals (don't remember the name because as soon as I saw some prices, I was outta there!). "One Caliber" pamphlets about $25, and regular reloading manuals up to $140. Possible being of Texan/Okie heritage and stubbornness I absolutely would go without before I paid that much! (well, maybe if my wife was on her deathbed and the only thing that would save her is purchasing from these thieves, maybe)...

[murf205]

I realise prices are going up but $241 for a double cavity Lyman 311284 is piracy!

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LYMAN-RIFLE-MOULD-DOUBLE-CAVITY-30-CAL-210-GR-LY-M60284/264673479746?epid=23020119775&hash=item3d9fc4cc42:g:rrEAAOSwAS1edDLI

This guy has 6 shell holders for $147.82AU. I noticed that he still has the molds and the shellholders. Supply and demand--maybe but it's still robbery.

[murf205]

Saw the prices for single cavity mold and laughed. As was stated, you can get a very nice mould from the various makers. I am trying out Accurate for the first time. I did want a pistol that I finally found and did pay a hundred or so more for it but, oh well, they said it was in stock so we will see.

MrWolf, you will not be disappointed with Accurate Molds. Tom delivers exactly what you ask for.

[Conditor22]

I need to learn how to sell on E-bay,

I have at least 50 molds (many I don't have guns for, I did several bulk buys) I don't use and if I auction them off then I won't feel bad about price gouging.

[Burnt Fingers]

If fools are willingly paying that kind of money for a mold it's not piracy. It's good business.

The people aren't being forced to pay that kind of money.

[rockrat]

Dang!!! I sold mine here last week for $50

[Cherokee]

$200 for 1k Federal SP primers ... on one of the forums I visit. :-(

[TNsailorman]

local guy has small pistol primers for sale at $100.00 per hundred. That is about typical around here for primers and powder. I can get you 4 lbs. of Varget for $100.00 a pound. Now don't everybody rush emails to me at once. Bargains like that don't come along except once in a lifetime.

[RustyReel]

It was a chance to get my money back, after shipping and fees, on things that I no longer use and paid a little too much for originally. Actually sold a little too early and wish I had a few more to sell. Really a bad time to buy if you need anything.

[richhodg66]

I'm seeing Lee die sets go for upwards of 100 dollars. It's ridiculous to me that they're selling at those prices.

What really made me laugh recently was that every blackpowder firearm on one website I checked was sold out... People are out there so desperate to be armed they've strapped up with ye olde musketoons and pepperboxes.

Or, maybe there is just a renewed interest in shooting in general as people become aware. Some of us like muzzle loaders and it doesn't come from a "desparation to be armed". Same thing for air rifles. In the end, the expanding interest is a good thing.

I wouldn't have payed that much for that mold, but then, I have a couple of 311284 molds. Best single design for the .30-06 I have found and if I needed one and that was what I had to pay, the mold will last forever. In the grand scheme of things, I could see spending that over a lot of the stupid things people waste money on.

[Harter66]

I cruised a pawn shop yesterday how about $60 for 50 357 and 95 for 45 Colts .
7mm RM was priced like it was 264 WM and they were asking $380 for a sportered 8×57 and 250 for LCP that looked like it crawled in there across the Oregon trail in a bag of gravel .

I'm pretty sure the pirates are riding out the storm in some safe haven waiting for the fog to swoop in on all the this isn't what I had in mind unloaders to brace for the next storm . I know when it comes back I'm buying about a dozen each in popular dies sets and shopping arsenal packs of primers just to have them for the next time ..... Assuming we survive this this pack of clowns .

[BJK]

I'm probably preaching to the choir, but anyone knows that when prices are down to stack high and deep. Prices were down semi-recently and that was the time to buy. Now is when we live off of what we stocked up with.

I think what we're seeing are folks who are panicking because they now see a need for firearms and they'll buy anything. But $1/primer? That's just nuts! People with more $ than brains pay that. Almost makes me wish I had stuff for sale but I need to feed my very useful, and enjoyable hobby and there's no telling when prices will come back down to normal again.

[Burnt Fingers]

$1 a primer?????


I really want a Grand Power Striborg. I could part with a brick of primers to get one!

[bishopgrandpa]

This is Australian dollars and ships to australia only. No U.S. Things are different there.

[dverna]

I have a few molds to sell. I can list them here and get a fair price, or put them on eBay and get a much higher price.

[Dusty Bannister]

Pretty much the way most of us happen to be. The other part of that question is, if you do sell them here, will they be "flipped"?

[barrabruce]

I just bought 3 bricks of cci std 22lr for $70 a brick.
Last time it was $50

I think I will buy a very complicated to load single shot 22lr rifle and be done with it.

If I don’t waste my ammo I could be right for a while yet.

[Garyshome]

I recently sold an old beat up Lee breech lock press on e bay for $174.00+shipping.

[whisler]

I have several unused presses, but have had inquiries about teaching a few friends to reload, so I will hang on to the presses in case they follow through.

[41mag]

I threw down on a 4C mold on #$bay and got outbid almost immediately. I just let it ride and ended up getting it at the end for about what I would have paid for a MP or NOE mold.

It was higher than I wanted to initially pay but I'd been off and on looking for one for a couple years. I also bid on a single cavity that went for about $80. I figure that the 4c going for a touch more than a normal price wasn't too bad.

I totally agree though it's been almost a laughable matter trying to find anything reloading relates.

[unique]

there's no telling when prices will come back down to normal again.

Never. This isn't limited to reloading stuff. Lots of tangible things are soaring in price.

[DDriller]

Gun shop I use most of the time offered me $170/brick for SPP that I have, 5 times what i bought it for from him.

[inspector_17]

Seeing 223 go for .75 to over a $1 per round. 22LR highest I've seen so far .23 per round. Primers of all sorts going for $30 or more per hundred. Powder is Starting at $50 a pound. Saw one guy complaining about the prices and was really pi**ed off about the "gouging". One response he got was "If you don't plan ahead its not my problem." After the first "shortage" I went thru, I vowed never again. I have what I need to shoot when I want to.

[BJK]

Seeing 223 go for .75 to over a $1 per round. 22LR highest I've seen so far .23 per round. Primers of all sorts going for $30 or more per hundred. Powder is Starting at $50 a pound. Saw one guy complaining about the prices and was really pi**ed off about the "gouging". One response he got was "If you don't plan ahead its not my problem." After the first "shortage" I went thru, I vowed never again. I have what I need to shoot when I want to.

Dittos. Anyone who has seen multiple shooting famines and didn't prepare the last time prices went down is a fool. There's really only one good excuse that I can think of... lack of available funds. Food should not be taken out of the kids mouths to pay for piling high and deep.

[jim147]

I still have a few bricks of .22 bought in the Clinton years. I didn't buy everything just enough for me to keep shooting.

[brewer12345]

Heh, I organized my molds today in the cold weather shut-in we are under. I may need to join Molds Anonymous. 48 molds in all, including some weird ones. Put a few up for sale on ebay, not sure about some of them. I found no less than 4 copies fof the RCBS 35-200 RF 35 Rem mold.

[Lloyd Smale]

It's a Seller's Market boys! For those with large inventory from previous hording, and maybe advancing in age to a point where the Safe Queens deserve better, it suggests the time is ripe for some retirement profit taking.

yup if you have things you dont want or need its time to start looking at selling. Snooze you loose. 3 weeks ago i was offered 800 bucks for a used psa ar i built by a gun shop. Last weekend i went gunshop touring and the same dealer had 4 brand new colts on the rack for 1200 bucks each and said his offer on mine was now 600 bucks. At 800 i might have bit but at 600 ill keep it. Few months ago i traded a used smith 9mm shield 2 mags and a box of ball ammo even up for a winchester model 70 featherweight 06. That same dealer had 5 9mm carry guns in his show case. All for under 500 bucks. Matter of fact i bought a NEW shield to replace the one i sold for 500 bucks that came with 5 mags and some back pack thing with a first aid kit and mask. I think i made out on that deal pretty good in the end. Ended up with a model 70 and 3 mags for my new shield for basicaly 500 bucks. Hed probably laugh if i made that offer today. So its seems to be going slowly the other way. You might want to jump while you still can make some money.

[WRideout]

I'm seeing Lee die sets go for upwards of 100 dollars. It's ridiculous to me that they're selling at those prices.

What really made me laugh recently was that every blackpowder firearm on one website I checked was sold out... People are out there so desperate to be armed they've strapped up with ye olde musketoons and pepperboxes.

I bought an 1851 Colt Navy just because I always wanted one. Dixie Gunworks did not gouge on the price. Then I ordered the six banger .375 RB mold from Track of the Wolf; regular price. Both were on backorder for a while, though.

Wayne
PS: no registration in PA.

[bisleyfan41]

Dittos. Anyone who has seen multiple shooting famines and didn't prepare the last time prices went down is a fool. There's really only one good excuse that I can think of... lack of available funds. Food should not be taken out of the kids mouths to pay for piling high and deep.

Meh, that's what ramen noodles are for :shock: ;)