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Mr Peabody
02-09-2021, 05:42 PM
Could someone post a photo or drawing of the flash channel in a T/C percussion rifle, maybe even a New Englander.
My mistake, A side hammer rifle. Like the Hawkens or New Englander. Is that plug held in by a pin too?

megasupermagnum
02-09-2021, 06:19 PM
Do you need it from the front, or will a picture with the nipple removed suffice?

rfd
02-09-2021, 06:39 PM
Like 99.9% of all offshore guns, it has a patent breech and has an ante-chamber, like the GPR below - that's what matters most.

https://i.imgur.com/9sfZYSM.jpg

pietro
02-09-2021, 06:45 PM
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T/C breechplug - the LH is clean, the middle is lightly fouled, the RH is severely fouled.


https://i.ibb.co/tHS8DPG/Breech-Plugs.jpg

Newtire
02-09-2021, 11:49 PM
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T/C breechplug - the LH is clean, the middle is lightly fouled, the RH is severely fouled.


https://i.ibb.co/tHS8DPG/Breech-Plugs.jpgGreat pictures Pietro. Is a flintlock breech area the same as far as maybe having a small area where the cleaning rod will have a hard time getting into and why flushing with water is the best way to get the crud out?

pietro
02-10-2021, 03:39 AM
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A .38cal pistol brush should be able to clean the powder chamber.

Here's a thread posted 3 years ago here on the very subject:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?324252-Cleaning-patented-breech-Ante-chamber

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rfd
02-10-2021, 07:24 AM
I've been preaching about those offshore patent breech plugs for decades. Ain't nothing new. Unlike classic flat faced onshore breech plugs, the offshore ante-chamber ones require attention during cleaning ... and maybe also some attention for fouling control during shooting. In my opinion, the patent plug is nothing less than a PITA to contend with, and if disregarded when it comes to cleaning, will present more aggravation and work than the good they are s'posed to foster (faster ignition - phooey!).

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Mr Peabody
02-10-2021, 09:03 AM
Thanks everyone! I got my answer

Newtire
02-10-2021, 10:58 AM
And me too. Thanks!

rfd
02-13-2021, 10:27 AM
.... and why flushing with water is the best way to get the crud out?

Because that's what dissolves bp residue the best and cheapest - plain tepid tap water. No hot water, no soap, no commercial concoctions.

The key to fast and complete cleaning of bp residue is in keeping the bp residue soft after the last shot of the day is taken. If it gets hard, it will just increase cleaning time. Just run a few patches down the tube that are sloppy wet with something that will not promote rust, such as Ballistol, "moose milk" (water soluble oil + water), WD-40, etc. Leave the wet patch down the bore. A guaranteed 15 minute or less clean up when back at the ranch.

Newtire
02-13-2021, 01:32 PM
Because that's what dissolves bp residue the best and cheapest - plain tepid tap water. No hot water, no soap, no commercial concoctions.

The key to fast and complete cleaning of bp residue is in keeping the bp residue soft after the last shot of the day is taken. If it gets hard, it will just increase cleaning time. Just run a few patches down the tube that are sloppy wet with something that will not promote rust, such as Ballistol, "moose milk" (water soluble oil + water), WD-40, etc. Leave the wet patch down the bore. A guaranteed 15 minute or less clean up when back at the ranch.That's what I do just before I start packing up my target stand and clearing off the shooting bench. It does save me from having to stink up the house later (not stinky to me but the queen gets a bit testy with all the heavenly odors of cleaning). For me, the best smell is Barricade at the end.)