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rancher1913
02-08-2021, 09:32 PM
so hypothetically, if you needed say a newer vehicle and had a goodly stash of primers but no job, would you sell and pay cash for a vehicle or keep the primers and hope you found a job that would allow you to make payments on a vehicle. would you find it immoral to charge what people are willing to pay (200-250 per k), your not holding a gun on them, forcing them to buy. given all the rules coming down the line would it be wiser to sell most all your guns and supplies now while there is a market, or lose them in a boating accident and hope the ptb's dont find them buried in your yard. just some pondering.

kerplode
02-08-2021, 09:44 PM
I can't really advise you whether or not to sell them. Personally, I wouldn't count on being able to replace them later, but you're gonna need to make that call.

I will advise this, however. If you do decide to sell them, sell them for as much as you can get for them. They are worth what people are willing to pay. Nothing immoral in that...

JM7.7x58
02-08-2021, 09:47 PM
Selling primers at current market value ain’t the same thing as price gouging on drinking water after a hurricane.

Let the market set the price. That’s capitalism.

I’m set for a few years. When things calm down in a year or two I’ll get some more.

JM

snowwolfe
02-08-2021, 09:48 PM
Doubt you could actually sell many primers to local folks at those prices. And to offer them online would require an authorized hazmat shipper to ship them. I been selling off extra bullets and brass and am amazed at the prices they are selling for. Its a calculated gamble because I will stop before running out and hope to restock when prices drop.
Primers are the holy grail of reloading components and are generally regarded as the most important one to own.

Eventually things will cool down, but when? I know some shooters who brag they have in excess of 100K primers and are still buying any they can find.

This is difficult market to predict. But I personally think 2021 will be the worst of it.

Soundguy
02-08-2021, 09:54 PM
I know many sellers at shows are selling part of their stash to make bucks. I don't specifically blame them. I remember buying wolf primers for 2 cents each. You can now sell primers for 15-20-35 cents each.

If I had 50k primers... I'd sell half.

The problem selling them is uncertainty about 1, getting them back at all. 2, getting them back substantially cheaper otherwise your windfall shrank. Or 3, getting them without jumping thru 400 fire burning but-poking hoops like is in current house bills as we speak.

If the house bill from the female Democrat in Texas passes... It's going to be an act of Congress to buy a gun or ammo.. And no loaning, gifting, transferring... Handing anything to anyone... You will need about 10 licenses.. Even for antiques, multi day training courses. Yearly 800$ fee to atty general, and a psych veal for you, members of your family, and associates, to include spouses and ex spouses..each time you want to buy a gun or box of ammo. Yes... You read that right. Not to mention a new alphabet agency to handle the registration, database and check system.

Remember... Your ex spouse gets to decide if you buy ammo or a gun...

Think about the logistics.. You want a box of ammo to range shoot. You sign up.. Get on a wait list for your psych veal..say.. A month.. And the other umpteen dozen people they need to evaluate are then contacted.. So maybe in what. ? 6 months you can go get that box of 22lr. Watch out... 2 box limit.

We are doomed...

dverna
02-08-2021, 09:58 PM
Do not listen to the whiners on this or any other forums. Do not sell to members here and cause ill feelings from envy and jealousy.

Primers will return and will likely cost $40-60/k. Likely in a year. Buy back then.

Keep a 4-6 year supply and cash them out. Even if it takes more than a year, you will still have plenty.

That is what I did.

mroliver77
02-08-2021, 09:58 PM
I never feel bad to take peoples stupid money for things I own. I dont do stock market or bonds etc but do invest in tangible items that I can or will eventually use. I have got pretty hungry before while setting om a pile of ammo or components or antiques or whatever but held out until a Democrat got elected and panic drove prices to gag levels.
Same as any investment I try to buy low and sell high. I aint a business but if you offer me 25$ per c for primers I am game.
Some of my toys have become way more valuable lately. Enabled me to do some maintenance around here, fill my freezer and I can do a top end on my old bike. Oh ya, I hoard toilet paper also.
I have sold my stash more than once in life to be able to better my circumstances.
Jay

cwtebay
02-09-2021, 12:43 AM
I am (nearly) ashamed to admit that I sold large pile of Russian 22 LR ammo in the spring following the Obama election. I am not ashamed to say I charged what was offered, generally $75/100. I would ask myself: is this something that I will be able to replace and am I going to be able to do without these if I can't replace them.

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jim147
02-09-2021, 12:55 AM
I've seen primers going anywhere from .50-.63 cents each. I'm not buying any. I got mine years ago around $10-20 a thousand. Same as my .22 I got it before the Obama rush. Still have plenty. Less than $10 a brick.

brewer12345
02-09-2021, 01:07 AM
rancher, there is no shame or issue with selling at current prices. Think the seller of a car will let you have it for 20% of current market? So if you need a car and have excess primers, have at it. You cannot ship them so you will have to do it face to face.

David2011
02-09-2021, 04:14 AM
Just remember that any cash transactions even approaching $10,000 will be reported to the government. That includes deposits and purchases. If the cash is in hand you could finance the vehicle and then make frequent payments that wouldn’t attract attention.

MrWolf
02-09-2021, 08:02 AM
You would be buying the vehicle at current market value so why should it be any different for you selling the primers? Whether you would be able to replace them down thecroad is another issue. Good luck

No_1
02-09-2021, 08:33 AM
In 1968 I was standing in the showroom floor of a Ford dealer on Rivers Ave. in North Charleston, SC looking at a new Ford Falcon being sold for ~$2300. Next to it was a 427 Cobra for $6000. If the original owner decides to sell it (today) for its current market value of >1 million should he or she feel immoral for pricing it according to the market for that vehicle? I think not. What about your house? At sales time are you not allowed to price it according to the current market?

Sell what you can afford to live without as you can’t take it to the grave.


so hypothetically, if you needed say a newer vehicle and had a goodly stash of primers but no job, would you sell and pay cash for a vehicle or keep the primers and hope you found a job that would allow you to make payments on a vehicle. would you find it immoral to charge what people are willing to pay (200-250 per k), your not holding a gun on them, forcing them to buy. given all the rules coming down the line would it be wiser to sell most all your guns and supplies now while there is a market, or lose them in a boating accident and hope the ptb's dont find them buried in your yard. just some pondering.

762 shooter
02-09-2021, 08:41 AM
Why on earth would anyone feel bad about selling anything at any price you are offered and are willing to accept?

Makes no sense to me.

762

RU shooter
02-09-2021, 09:07 AM
If you bought precious metals at a low and then sold them at a high and made a good pile of cash would you feel guilty ? Same thing ,right now powder, ammo and primers are the new precious metals and are at a high . If I was sitting on a extra large stash and needed money darn right I'd be trying to sell for the highest price I could get . It's worth what someone's willing to pay for it . Same as anything else in this world .

Garyshome
02-09-2021, 09:16 AM
so hypothetically, if you needed say a newer vehicle and had a goodly stash of primers but no job, would you sell and pay cash for a vehicle or keep the primers and hope you found a job that would allow you to make payments on a vehicle. would you find it immoral to charge what people are willing to pay (200-250 per k), your not holding a gun on them, forcing them to buy. given all the rules coming down the line would it be wiser to sell most all your guns and supplies now while there is a market, or lose them in a boating accident and hope the ptb's dont find them buried in your yard. just some pondering.

The only way it would be " immoral to charge what people are willing pay" is if I am a socialist, or a whiner who didn't plan ahead when the opportunity was there. The person without the primers may have a really nice car [or a ford :-P].

tai95
02-09-2021, 09:29 AM
Just remember that any cash transactions even approaching $10,000 will be reported to the government. That includes deposits and purchases. If the cash is in hand you could finance the vehicle and then make frequent payments that wouldn’t attract attention.

They changed the 10,000 number years ago. I'm not sure what the new minimum is though. At one point I was using my personal credit card to buy items for work. Boss got what he needed and I earned the cash back. I went to pay off the card (around $5000 for the month) and it set off some sort of money laundering protocol. I had to give them a few different forms of ID and confirms my SS number. The patriot act changed a bunch of the old banking rules

Thumbcocker
02-09-2021, 10:01 AM
Assuming that you had enough primers to meet your needs after selling enough to buy the vehicle I see no problem with it. I would not like to have a new vehicle payment when I had no job. As far as selling at current prices I see no problem with that. I have thinned the heard by selling off a few that I don't use much. I sold a M38 Mosin on consignment at a local shop and told them to set whatever price they thought it would bring. It brought $500!. It was restocked in a M44 stock and the bore was not pristine. Somebody wanted it $500 worth and they got it. Go figure. Swedish m38's that I bought for IIRC $125 brought over $500. I feel no guilt about it at all. I had enjoyed them and now someone else is enjoying them.

JonB_in_Glencoe
02-09-2021, 11:10 AM
so hypothetically, if you needed say a newer vehicle and had a goodly stash of primers but no job, would you sell and pay cash for a vehicle or keep the primers and hope you found a job that would allow you to make payments on a vehicle. would you find it immoral to charge what people are willing to pay (200-250 per k), your not holding a gun on them, forcing them to buy. given all the rules coming down the line would it be wiser to sell most all your guns and supplies now while there is a market, or lose them in a boating accident and hope the ptb's dont find them buried in your yard. just some pondering.

My 2¢
..and I mean no criticism, as this could be taken as such, No Job? Then you don't need a newer vehicle. I assume you need to replace a vehicle, first I'd consider selling something else, that will predictably be more easy to replace when you get the Job.
Because getting top price for Primers ain't gonna be easy. Replacing them in the future might be difficult.
Anyway, I'd sell "whatever" to raise enough to buy a $2K car, that'll get you around, until you get a job.

Back to Primers, you could try selling some primers locally, and if you are successful getting over $100 per $1K, count yourself lucky, and just sell enough for a cheap car.
I honestly mean the best, with this advice,
Good luck.

farmbif
02-09-2021, 11:22 AM
aint nothing immoral about it. this is America man, home of free capitalism. if someone is willing to pay you $250 for something you bought 6 or 8 months ago for $30
the more power to ya man.
there just aint a lot of jobs to had for a whole lot of people. but it seems like there are plenty of people that want to be sure they got plenty of those 25 cent primers.
it just might be prime time for cashing in on you surplus stock of supplies.

Soundguy
02-09-2021, 11:41 AM
My 2¢
..and I mean no criticism, as this could be taken as such, No Job? Then you don't need a newer vehicle. I assume you need to replace a vehicle, first I'd consider selling something else, that will predictably be more easy to replace when you get the Job.
Because getting top price for Primers ain't gonna be easy. Replacing them in the future might be difficult.
Anyway, I'd sell "whatever" to raise enough to buy a $2K car, that'll get you around, until you get a job.

Back to Primers, you could try selling some primers locally, and if you are successful getting over $100 per $1K, count yourself lucky, and just sell enough for a cheap car.
I honestly mean the best, with this advice,
Good luck.

100$/thousand should be easy.

within the last month I've seen them go from 80/1000 to 120/1000 to 150/1000 to 200/1000 and on gb iv'e seen 350/1000

At 100/1000 he should be ablse to sell same day after posting an add and then watch the cars line up at his door.

Garyshome
02-09-2021, 11:54 AM
"Oh ya, I hoard toilet paper also.":brokenima:brokenima

snowwolfe
02-09-2021, 01:02 PM
I thought about this a lot last night and this morning. If buyers offered me $250 a brick I would sell off almost my complete supply except for keeping 1k each of SR, SP, LP, and LR. Cash only face to face sales.

M-Tecs
02-09-2021, 02:03 PM
It's not immoral to charge what people are willing to pay if it's not truly an essential item. Example would be after a natural localized natural disaster raising the price of a bottle of water to $100 is immoral. On the other hand if your are selling water for a dollar a bottle and have the only bottle of flavored water within a hundred miles and you want $100 for the flavored water verse $1 of unflavored that is not immoral selling the flavored water for $100 since the flavored water is a want not a need.

dverna
02-09-2021, 02:33 PM
My how things have changed. I recall a couple of guys getting hammered on this site for wanting to sell primers for $80/k (or thereabouts).

Selling primers is not difficult. Find a place that sells reloads (check with competitive shooters who may know) or place an ad in your state gun organization site. About a month ago a shop in MI was paying $100/k for SPP and SRP and buying whatever you had to sell. They were paying that for Tula and Wolf. I expect pricing has gone up. Visit the local gun clubs and ask to put up an ad. If you are worried about security use a disposable phone. Bring a buddy for the FTF exchange. My buddy is a Vet and was happy to ride shotgun and get out of the house. We had to drive a few hours but had a good time along the way.

BTW, everyone I met was grateful to get stuff and were good people. No problems at all, but I do not live in Detroit either. One guy called me a couple of weeks later looking for more bullets (he took all my .45 cast) and I sold him all my .45 defensive ammunition.

brewer12345
02-09-2021, 05:57 PM
My how things have changed. I recall a couple of guys getting hammered on this site for wanting to sell primers for $80/k (or thereabouts).

Selling primers is not difficult. Find a place that sells reloads (check with competitive shooters who may know) or place an ad in your state gun organization site. About a month ago a shop in MI was paying $100/k for SPP and SRP and buying whatever you had to sell. They were paying that for Tula and Wolf. I expect pricing has gone up. Visit the local gun clubs and ask to put up an ad. If you are worried about security use a disposable phone. Bring a buddy for the FTF exchange. My buddy is a Vet and was happy to ride shotgun and get out of the house. We had to drive a few hours but had a good time along the way.

BTW, everyone I met was grateful to get stuff and were good people. No problems at all, but I do not live in Detroit either. One guy called me a couple of weeks later looking for more bullets (he took all my .45 cast) and I sold him all my .45 defensive ammunition.

If you are looking for a safe place to transact face to face, meet in the parking lot of the local police station.

Soundguy
02-09-2021, 06:08 PM
Unless in NYC or Jersey. ;)

jimlj
02-09-2021, 06:15 PM
so hypothetically, if you needed say a newer vehicle and had a goodly stash of primers but no job, would you sell and pay cash for a vehicle or keep the primers and hope you found a job that would allow you to make payments on a vehicle. would you find it immoral to charge what people are willing to pay (200-250 per k), your not holding a gun on them, forcing them to buy. given all the rules coming down the line would it be wiser to sell most all your guns and supplies now while there is a market, or lose them in a boating accident and hope the ptb's dont find them buried in your yard. just some pondering.

If I had enough primers to sell that I could take the money and pay cash for a new car, my wife would be driving a new car.

375RUGER
02-09-2021, 06:24 PM
nothing immoral about capitalism. I wouldn't even consider it profiteering. Your primers are worth exactly as much as someone is willing to pay.

Shawlerbrook
02-09-2021, 06:29 PM
First nothing wrong with getting the most you can for your inventory. But I would only sell if I New I had more than a lifetime supply. If you can replace them in the future, it won’t be for what you paid for them in the good old days.

brewer12345
02-09-2021, 06:34 PM
Unless in NYC or Jersey. ;)

Rancher is in eastern Colorado. The only way the police would break up the deal is to bid higher than the buyer.

Norcal707
02-09-2021, 08:20 PM
Sold 10k of SRP last August for $70/k - wish I'd of hung on to them another six months seeing what they're going for now...

dverna
02-09-2021, 08:30 PM
If you are looking for a safe place to transact face to face, meet in the parking lot of the local police station.

Did one in the Cabala’s lot, three at another large sporting goods store, one At McDonald’s, one at the local gas station. But being rural has advantages. Also, by using a shooting forum to place the ad, there is less chance of getting mystery buyers.

Eddie Southgate
02-09-2021, 09:20 PM
Wholesale Hunter has CCI LR listed for $425 per thousand , guess I won't be doing business with them again .

Soundguy
02-09-2021, 09:35 PM
Wow.. Cheaper than dirtbag type of prices.

WinchesterM1
02-09-2021, 09:51 PM
I’m selling my stash of wolf SPP for $350/k

rancher1913
02-09-2021, 10:25 PM
ok so this thread was started just to contemplate what could be. all the gun control crap coming down the pike scares me and got me thinking, what if they outlaw this stuff, will I hide it and risk going to prison or cash out now while there is a healthy market. the ranch covers it own bills but does not leave any left overs and my ranch hauling truck is over 20 years old and needs to be replaced, it still works but it is a vital piece of equipment without a back up, a replacement is in the 70k range and no way the ranch can afford that. it would be easy to get a table at one of the gun shows in denver but the only way to sell would be for cash, dont want to pay a card company or have any .gov people in my business.

cwtebay
02-09-2021, 10:37 PM
I wish I had some primers, I lost all of that sort of thing in an unfortunate canoeing accident

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jrayborn
02-09-2021, 10:55 PM
I think the price will keep going up, a lot.

Winger Ed.
02-09-2021, 11:00 PM
Wholesale Hunter has CCI LR listed for $425 per thousand , guess I won't be doing business with them again .

At Mountain City Supply, they're only $300. for Federal or $325. for CCI Small rifle.

jonjon00
02-09-2021, 11:30 PM
If you don't have a job to get to why do you need to upgrade your vehicle?
Sell anything you have for anything you want to. This is America. Morality is what you want it to be.

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Hossfly
02-09-2021, 11:35 PM
Ill swap with fellow reloaders 1-1 but won’t be selling any primers. And will not run out for a few years.

snowwolfe
02-10-2021, 12:01 AM
Wholesale Hunter has CCI LR listed for $425 per thousand , guess I won't be doing business with them again .

God bless America. They are free to charge what they want and you are free to take your business elsewhere. This is how the buy/sell process should work.

brewer12345
02-10-2021, 12:25 AM
ok so this thread was started just to contemplate what could be. all the gun control crap coming down the pike scares me and got me thinking, what if they outlaw this stuff, will I hide it and risk going to prison or cash out now while there is a healthy market. the ranch covers it own bills but does not leave any left overs and my ranch hauling truck is over 20 years old and needs to be replaced, it still works but it is a vital piece of equipment without a back up, a replacement is in the 70k range and no way the ranch can afford that. it would be easy to get a table at one of the gun shows in denver but the only way to sell would be for cash, dont want to pay a card company or have any .gov people in my business.

Not sure if there are even any gun shows open in Denver these days.

rancher1913
02-10-2021, 08:18 AM
there have been several, loveland had one a couple a weeks ago and chyanne had one last weekend. i know its not denver, but close enough.

brewer12345
02-10-2021, 06:01 PM
there have been several, loveland had one a couple a weeks ago and chyanne had one last weekend. i know its not denver, but close enough.

Cheyenne isn't a surprise. Loveland is for sure.

Geezer in NH
02-10-2021, 06:42 PM
The way this country is headed you won't need primers as the Dems want all the guns.

I am keeping what I have as I may never get any more.

jrayborn
02-10-2021, 07:03 PM
The way this country is headed you won't need primers as the Dems want all the guns.

I am keeping what I have as I may never get any more.

Bingo.

If you don't have it now, it's more than likely you never will...

rockrat
02-10-2021, 07:08 PM
Been to the Loveland one once. In my opinion, it was a tiny show for a large price. Never have been back. Cheyenne one might have been interesting though

David2011
02-11-2021, 12:54 AM
They changed the 10,000 number years ago. I'm not sure what the new minimum is though. At one point I was using my personal credit card to buy items for work. Boss got what he needed and I earned the cash back. I went to pay off the card (around $5000 for the month) and it set off some sort of money laundering protocol. I had to give them a few different forms of ID and confirms my SS number. The patriot act changed a bunch of the old banking rules

It’s still $10,000 but there are caveats. If you deposit $10K over several smaller deposits in a short time that is reportable as well. If you receive $10K in cash over a year from one person that is reportable on IRS form 8300. Some financial institutions have taken it upon themselves to report much smaller cash deposits even though it’s none of their business.

sw282
02-11-2021, 06:05 PM
In 1968 I was standing in the showroom floor of a Ford dealer on Rivers Ave. in North Charleston, SC looking at a new Ford Falcon being sold for ~$2300. Next to it was a 427 Cobra for $6000. If the original owner decides to sell it (today) for its current market value of >1 million should he or she feel immoral for pricing it according to the market for that vehicle? I think not. What about your house? At sales time are you not allowed to price it according to the current market?

Sell what you can afford to live without as you can’t take it to the grave.

Number ONE.

Wasn't that dealership at TEN MILE HILL? Remount Rd and the ''Dual Lane" as we used to call it? l remember the year they had the GT40 Ford on display that won LeMans. Was that Paul Motor Company??
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