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castmiester
01-29-2021, 04:16 PM
Hornadys One Shot (lanolin is in it, Hornady says) dries after application. Went by the instructions. I spray on cardboard with 252 cases standing, in four directions. Too much ?? The stuff really doesn't "dry" to the point of oozing out the die vent hole accumulating on top of the dies lock nut. Occasionally I have to wipe out the die. Wondering if I should 86 the One Shot and use Lanolin and alcohol... but use less lanolin... rather than 16 oz's alcohol / 4 ounce lanolin.

JonB_in_Glencoe
01-29-2021, 04:31 PM
castmiester,
Welcome to the website.

I use One Shot. It don't take much.

I spray from two sides (front and back) ...just enough to see that they are wet. I usually stand up a group of about 25, then spray for about 3 seconds front and 3 seconds back side, be sure some gets inside the case.

castmiester
01-29-2021, 04:41 PM
thanks for the welcome

So you don't experience the build up in the die?

JonB_in_Glencoe
01-29-2021, 05:28 PM
no build up

Conditor22
01-29-2021, 05:36 PM
Welcome to CB

I use Gold Eagle ISO HEET Gas LINE Anti FREES-12 OZ. (REPL. HA55360) + 1 ounce of liquid lanolin. You can add more lanolin if you like.

I use a gallon plastic jar 1/4 full of cut-up sponges. I spray 2-3 squirts of lanolin/heet mix in the jar, fill 2/3 with brass then give 3 more sprays over the brass. put the lid back on and shake it up well.

I use mink oil occasionally. Lately, I've been using the Lee water-soluble case lube. Put a 1/4" dab in the bottom of a 1/2 gallon plastic bowl with a lid and fill 2/3 with brass. put on the lid then shake up the brass rotating the bowl. All the brass should have a light haze, if not add a BB-sized dab and shake some more.

I have a lot of primmed brass that needs to be sized ie: pull-down brass or brass I cleaned & primed before sizing [smilie=b: using the lee water-based lube, after sizing I get a bowl of hot water with a little dish soap, wet a rag in it and ring out the rag, line up some brass on the damp rag and roll them back and forth for a few seconds, move the brass to a dry towel and repeat the rolling process----- clean lube-free brass. when done with all the brass I'm cleaning, I put all the cleaned brass in a big towel, form a hammock (holding the ends of the towel) I rock the brass back and forth to ensure dry and clean.

castmiester
01-29-2021, 05:58 PM
Thanks guys.. I appreciate your help

centershot
01-29-2021, 06:02 PM
castmiester,
Welcome to the website.

I use One Shot. It don't take much.

I spray from two sides (front and back) ...just enough to see that they are wet. I usually stand up a group of about 25, then spray for about 3 seconds front and 3 seconds back side, be sure some gets inside the case.

^^^This^^^ I lay the cases down, spray a light coat making sure to get it inside the necks, then roll them 180 degrees and repeat. I've found that I get better results if I lay them down, but whatever works for you. You don't need much! Once applied I usually fan the cases with a piece of stiff cardboard to hasten the drying time. Hornady says to wait until they are dry or you risk sticking a case. I confess, I usually don't wait until totally dry but I've used it for years and haven't stuck a case yet. YMMV!

castmiester
01-29-2021, 06:55 PM
I think this can sat too long and I thought I shook it enough... there were major dents in the can from the mixing ball inside. I went to use it and prayed the cases down. They sized ok felt fine goin in, a little stiff, but didn't want to over spray them by trying to get inside the mouth.. it seems they hang a up a bit, and pulls on the rim a bit and distorts it a little. Broke out my can of Lyman Quick Slick... works, but it's lard oil, and takes longer to dry. Waiting now to see. It too oozes out of the die after a few cases.

Mk42gunner
01-29-2021, 09:27 PM
I'm not fan of One Shot case lube. I was processing a few gallons of rifle fired 5.56 brass when I tried it.

The first spray can of it did fine, hence buying the second can. I had several stuck cases in the resizing die with it, to the point I started just spraying the cases with plain old WD-40, it worked better than the One Shot. I did tumble the cases afterward in walnut media to remove the oil.

Now I primarily use Redding's Imperial Sizing Die Wax. Although there are a plethora of things that work.

Robert

Winger Ed.
01-29-2021, 09:35 PM
I lay cases flat, spray lightly with one shot or Lyman's version of it, roll 189 degrees, spray again.

I spray at a low angle so it goes into the case necks as much as it'll reach.
I keeps some stress & strain off the expander ball.

I also clean & tumble the cases afterwards before loading.

slohunter
01-29-2021, 11:34 PM
One Shot is my favorite. I'll put 50 30-06 cases in a zip lock bag and just a short shot, shake it up and have never had a stuck case.

Minerat
01-29-2021, 11:58 PM
I have a quart size zip lock bag I put 50 or so cases in the bag and give it a couple of spritzes then work the cases around in the bag. Dump them out and let them dry then resize. About every 4th case I dip a neck in ground mica. It has helped eliminate stuck cases when doing 223's and 308's. I use imperial sizing wax for the magnum cases.

Walks
01-30-2021, 12:43 AM
I use it, .223, .30-06, .308 .38-40 & .44-40, works well for me, big quantities.
I use nylon case blocks from Sinclair that friend gave me. Two rows of holes, spritz one side and then the other. Never had a stuck case with One Shot. Takes 5+ minutes to dry, it's gotta be dry.
Most other cases I use either a case lube pad for 20-60rd boxes. Or Imperial case lube with fingers for a few cases.

castmiester
01-30-2021, 07:45 AM
Welcome to CB

I use Gold Eagle ISO HEET Gas LINE Anti FREES-12 OZ. (REPL. HA55360) + 1 ounce of liquid lanolin. You can add more if you like

I used 91% Alcohol and 1 ounce of Lanolin. Can't believe the price almost doubled... 10 bucks + tax for 4 oz. now 18 + tax ! Guess You can get an idea how long it's been since I bought Lanolin. Just using the more pure alcohol, dries waaay faster, like a minute or less, and the 1 ounce of Lanolin is just enough, and sizes more. I use my Dillion gauge and it still falls below the first step, either way, just a little more with your mixutre Conditor .....Thanks for the help !

1hole
01-30-2021, 10:25 AM
All commercial case lubes and a lot of alternatives work fine when applied as they should be.

Cases get stuck for one reason only; insufficient lube on the lower (thick) part of the cases. The increased pressure needed to drive a case home is our only signal to stop and apply more lube.

Lube ozing from the air vent OR shoulder dents are for one reason only; too much lube on the upper part of the cases.

Both problems are amplified by improper application of the chosen lube type.

castmiester
01-30-2021, 11:45 AM
I'm done guessing..... 1oz lanolin wit 16 ounces alcohol. Not enough or too much is not in the equation.

Jim22
01-30-2021, 01:17 PM
I use One Shot as well as Dillon's version of the same thing. I usually dump all the brass into a round bottom bowl - after cleaning them - and give a couple of sprays from the pump. Like someone said above it doesn't take much. Then I swirl them around in the bowl with my fingers until they all feel wet. Dump them out onto a shop towel, let them dry a few minutes and proceed with sizing. Never had a problem one way or the other.

Hossfly
02-02-2021, 09:41 PM
Whatever your paying for alcohol and lanolin is still way more cost efficient than buying the pre mixed stuff and it last for ever. And you get to diy.

castmiester
02-03-2021, 08:11 PM
The very first batch I made was 16:4. Now I mix 16:1.5. I heard 12 even 10:1. So yeah I'll last quite a spell. The first time I bought lanolin it was 10 something, just last week the same store charged 18 bucks for 4 ounces.

Mk42gunner
02-03-2021, 09:18 PM
The last time I bought lanolin, it was from one of the online soap making suppliers. Much cheaper that paying retail prices, I think I even got beeswax from them at the same time.

Don't remember who it was I bought from, do some browsing to find whats available.

Robert

Waisting lead
04-01-2021, 03:43 AM
I like to use the Lee case lube.
I take a WD40 spray bottle and squeeze about half the tube in. Then I fill with alcohol and shake.
The alcohol dries fast and I get a nice film of lube.
I get at least five hundred rounds per bottle and a thousand per tube.
Usually more if I'm just doing pistol.

TimD
04-01-2021, 04:26 PM
The last time I bought lanolin, it was from one of the online soap making suppliers. Much cheaper that paying retail prices, I think I even got beeswax from them at the same time.

Don't remember who it was I bought from, do some browsing to find whats available.

Robert

Thanks Robert, I would not have thought to look at soap making suppliers.

Tim

Mk42gunner
04-01-2021, 09:05 PM
No problem Tim.

They also have a lot of stuff that can be used for boolit lube making, although most of them would probably faint if they knew...

Robert

ackleyman
04-19-2021, 06:42 AM
Condor and I use the same Recipe, works without fail! Without Fail.

If you do not like to mix, buy Dillon's pump spray, works without fail!

I went to cooking supply house and bought some very large cookie or baking sheets, 24x36, and just dump the case on the sheet, spray, roll them around, and spray again...easy peasy. I stood them up for a while and sprayed them, waste of time.