Load Question: Acme 10mm 200g FP-Coated

[mblamag]

Can someone provide a min and max powder range for these Acme 200gr FP bullets shot from a Glock 10mm?
None of my manuals have load data for 200gr flat point.
For powders I have: #7,#9,800x, Blue Dot, 2400, CFE Pistol

From their website they are .401, coated with Hi-TEK, 92-6-2 lead, BHN 16.
They are ~.685 overall length from base to flat point (Compared to a 200gr Hornady XTP being ~.679)

Is there a general rule to follow when settling on a powder range when looking at load data for a copper jacketed bullet?
I'm new to loading 200gr lead bullets where data is not in a reloading manual.

Thank you

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[BigAlofPa.]

Go by 180 grain data. Reduce starting charges 10% maybe?

[Evoken]

Hodgdon website shows loads for a 200gr acme boolit.

[44MAG#1]

Please don't take this in a condescending way or any other way but as an informational way. I am watched by the moderators.
As has been said by me and OTHERS this is not rocket science.
I have been using a 200 grain FP Cast in Glock and Ruger 10MM's. Get load data for the Hornady 200 gr XTP. Start slightly lower than starting loads and work up. That is what I did. I have been using 10.5 of Alliant 2400 at an OAL of 1.245 inches with CCI 300 and it is Alright. It is NOT A FULL POWER LOAD. But it functions fine and operates the Glocks and Ruger fine.
Shoots well too.
Just research, study and you will be alright. But the KISS principal is hard to beat.

[rockshooter]

Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook 4th Ed. has data on 200 gr cast for 10mm.
AA7 not listed: AA9 not listed: 800X 7.3-8.2 gr, 1100-1208 fps, 21.5-29.3K CUP: Blue Dot 8.6-9.6 gr, 1087-1183 fps, 21.3-28.9K CUP: 2400 not listed:CFE not listed. I highly recommend that you get this book!
Loren

[farmbif]

you have aa7 and aa9, if in doubt contact the good folks at western powders directly. every time I have asked them for load data they sent me some that was not in the published load guide.

[mblamag]

Thank you all for your time and input.

I didn't think about checking the Western Powders' guide. I'll give them a call, too.
They do have data for the 200gr Oregon TC.

And with the above posts I should have a good start.

[Nick Adams]

"200 @ 1200" was the old "Sonny Crockett" load for the 200gn FP slug.

Made the '80s roar, it did. :mrgreen:

:2gunsfiring_v1:

[BC17A]

No offense to this forum or its members, but all you ever need to know about the 10mm is best found on the 10mm forum (http://10mm-firearms.com/index.php).

[Kosh75287]

I never found a published 10mm auto load that pushed a 200 gr. projectile at 1200 f/s. I found precious few that made 1150 f/s, which is what I thought the advertised velocity was.

I wonder what ol' "Sonny" was stoking HIS reloads with. I guess it was the same "fictional stuff" that held a lot of their plot lines together. Some of that "fictional stuff" might have made it into Tubbs' shotgun loads, resulting in a handheld weapon that needed the sound of a HOWITZER dubbed in, whenever he shot it.
SOME things about the 80s, I just do NOT miss...

[mblamag]

1,200 f/s requires special hair product

I'm more comfortable with rifle reloading, using Quickload, and extrapolating that load data.
There's a much larger powder volume window.

I just need to really look over pistol load data books and see the powder volume trend.
Right now It's unfamiliar to me. All other pistol bullets I've reloaded for were in a manual.

Then i can quantify what "slightly" means in pistol handloading.

[Nick Adams]

I never found a published 10mm auto load that pushed a 200 gr. projectile at 1200 f/s. I found precious few that made 1150 f/s, which is what I thought the advertised velocity was.

Some of the older reloading books (mid-'80s to early '90s vintage) have the data.

FWIW, Norma's early 200gn FP load actually did display a m.v. of 1200+ fps from a 5" barrel, which is what the original Bren Ten pistol had.

Back about 1991, a buddy & I chronographed some of that Norma 200gn ammo from his 5" Delta Elite and my 5" S&W 1006. We were getting some reading just under 1200fps and some over by 10+fps. Could've been that particular lot.


I wonder what ol' "Sonny" was stoking HIS reloads with. I guess it was the same "fictional stuff" that held a lot of their plot lines together. Some of that "fictional stuff" might have made it into Tubbs' shotgun loads, resulting in a handheld weapon that needed the sound of a HOWITZER dubbed in, whenever he shot it. SOME things about the 80s, I just do NOT miss...

Liked the '80s mostly, plus it was the Reagan era. I don't miss seeing guys decked out in parachute pants though. [smilie=1:

:grin:

[JT78]

With CFE I would start at 6.1 gr and work up. If you are going to run heavier loads in a glock I would look at a heavier spring and an aftermarket barrel that has a fully supported chamber like KKM or Wolf.

On a side note I've never tried to get 1200 out of a 200gr cast, but I am getting an avg of 1210fps with a 200gr gold dot in a 1911 frame 5 inch barrel.

[robertbank]

With CFE I would start at 6.1 gr and work up. If you are going to run heavier loads in a glock I would look at a heavier spring and an aftermarket barrel that has a fully supported chamber like KKM or Wolf.

On a side note I've never tried to get 1200 out of a 200gr cast, but I am getting an avg of 1210fps with a 200gr gold dot in a 1911 frame 5 inch barrel.

Would you please PM that load. I am looking for a load like that to carry in my GP-100.

Take Care

Bob