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milltownhunter
12-20-2008, 07:52 PM
how well are these new rifles made? can i expect any kind of accurate from a 34'' barrel? is there a problem in finding a load becuase of the leanth of the case?

Doc Highwall
12-21-2008, 12:13 AM
If it is the BPCR with the shotgun butt plate and pistol grip it has a Badger barrel and will shoot great. If it is the one with a rifle butt plate and stright grip it will have a standard barrel.

texasmac
12-23-2008, 12:55 AM
I second Doc H's comments if you are considering the Win. .45-90 Limited Series Creedmoor models. The 34" with sights is an exact duplicate of the original Browning Creedmoor and is made by the same company (Miroku) for Winchester. These are highly accurate and high-quality firearms. The same rifle is also available with a 30" Badger barrel with no sights (allowing you to buy your preferred brand of sight). The .45-90 Win. is the preferred cartridge for competitive shooting out to 1000 yds (Creedmoor matches) and can certainly do double duty for silhouette shooting to 500 meters. If 500 M silhouette competition is your game, the 30" barrel version is the better solution.

Wayne

Dale53
12-23-2008, 01:10 AM
I have both the Browning 1885 BPCR (40/65 with 30" barrel) and the Browning 1885 Creedmoor (45/90 with 34" barrel). I also have a C. Sharps 40/65 BPCR Silhouette rifle. I have shot them extensively. There is NO better rifle than the Browning 1885's for competition shooting. Mine both have Badger barrels (as does the Sharps) and are near wonderful. Both the Brownings were given a McGee Trigger Fix (clean, 2# trigger pull) and they will shoot a minute of angle to five hundred yards (I was a silhouette shooter and didn't shoot 1000 yards). It just doesn't get any better.

If the Winchesters are as good as the Brownings (the design is the same but I don't know if they have Badger barrels or not) then they would be my first choice since the Brownings are no longer offered.

Incidentally, there is a weight limit on Silhouette rifles so you want to check and see if the Creedmoor is within weight. Further, the 45/90 has a lot more recoil than you need for silhouette use. However, you WON'T have any "ringers" at 500 meters:mrgreen:.

Dale53

boommer
12-23-2008, 11:55 PM
I have one of those Win 85 45-90 Limited, nice rifle shoots nice and tight groups for a few rounds then crescent butt plate starts giving your shoulder a work out. The Creedmoor has a shotgun butt I think! 10 pound rifle with sights. I found the 45-90 just the same as 45-70 for loading black. I wouldn't get a 45-90 if your thinking of shooting smokeless in it to much case volume, it can be done, just don't like messing with fillers or worried about ringing a barrel.

Dale53
12-24-2008, 01:54 AM
I did NOT put a recoil pad on my BPCR's. However, looking back, that was a mistake.
I have a Marlin 1895 lever action, and after the first bloody session with heavy loads (it was summer and I only had a "t" shirt on) I immediately called upon a buddy and had him install a GOOD recoil pad (and shortened the stock to absolutely fit me).

Now, even with loads far heavier than I ever shot with black powder (and a MUCH lighter rifle) I am not bothered with a bruised shoulder, etc.

Dale53

texasmac
12-26-2008, 12:08 AM
Dale,

The recent Winchester Limited Series Creedmoor rifles with 1/2 octagon 1/2 round barrels do use Badger barrels, which I verified with both Winchester and with Davidsons, the exclusive distributor.

Wayne

Dale53
12-26-2008, 01:07 AM
texasmac;
That is good to hear. You are definitely "good to go".

Dale53

montana_charlie
12-26-2008, 02:25 PM
I have the Browning 1885 Creedmoor (45/90 with 34" barrel).

I have one of those Win 85 45-90 Limited,
What is the twist rate of the rifling in those Browning and Winchester rifles?
CM

LIMPINGJ
12-26-2008, 05:18 PM
Anyone know about the recent Limited Editions in 32-40?

boommer
12-26-2008, 06:37 PM
1-18 twist slugs at .458 Dia