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snowwolfe
01-24-2021, 02:57 PM
Considering buying one of these for cleaning driveway, carports, car and truck wheels (brake dust), extra muddy car, truck, or tractor, grill, etc
I can go with either electric or gas as I have outlets and extension cords as well as a Honda 2000 watt generator if needed. Like to keep the cost no more than $300.
What would you recommend and why?

metricmonkeywrench
01-24-2021, 03:20 PM
Not a “pro” but for 90% of us an electric will fit the bill. Having had one for for years and mine have been intermittent in use, mostly for springtime cleanup from the winter around the house/pool.

If used frequently the gas might be the better route. Like most things like this anymore the rotten gas we get these days create fuel system issues when the equipment sits unused.

I have a gas unit right now that was a dump rescue. Darn near new with a completely plugged up carb.

atr
01-24-2021, 04:09 PM
I have a Lowes TaskForce gas model. It has never failed me. 5 hp Briggs and Stratton engine. 2200 max PSI. Mounted on wheels so its easy to move around. Uses a maximum of 2.2 GPM water use.
hope that helps
atr

GBertolet
01-24-2021, 04:10 PM
The gas powered sprayers put out a lot more pressure, and clean better. But your $300 budget precludes, any new washers of quality, at that price range. Maybe used. Anyhow, if your requirements are not that great, an electric washer should get you by. An electric washer is never cranky to start., unlike some gas ones are.

I have a DeVilbiss Excell 2600 psi 3 GPM, with a Honda engine. I paid around $600 for it, at Home Depot. It's a mid price range washer. The GPM is more important for cleaning power, than just pressure.

GregLaROCHE
01-24-2021, 04:17 PM
If you get a powerful one, be careful using it on your car. Windshield wipers, plastic trim, etc.

Winger Ed.
01-24-2021, 04:44 PM
If you plan to clean your driveway with a electric one----

Bring a sandwich and something to drink.
You're going to be there awhile.

LUCKYDAWG13
01-24-2021, 05:28 PM
My wife bought me a Husqvarna PW3100 from Costco last year for about $300 bux works great

Ural Driver
01-24-2021, 05:31 PM
Bought a slightly used Simpson from a friend, it uses a Honda engine. Made the mistake of starting the engine without the water supply running and promptly trashed a seal which resulted in an oil leak from the pump. I was able to get the proper repair parts and do a rebuild. And, because it only took 10 minutes to remove the pump, I bought a spare pump ...... just in case I (or someone else) have another brain fart in the future.
I really prefer the gas powered washers. They make lots of power and yes, you do need to be aware of how much damage they can do to soft brick, wood, electrical connections, etc. My preferred nozzle is the "turbo" version for most applications.

snowwolfe
01-24-2021, 05:34 PM
Looks like I will have to increase my buying budget to get a good one. Keep the comments coming

sigep1764
01-24-2021, 05:34 PM
Bought my electric one from Harbor Freight for 80 bucks 3 years ago. Use it at work, wash cars/motorcycle, and power washing cement. Works great and would buy again.

CastingFool
01-24-2021, 05:35 PM
I've had a devilbiss excellent 2600 for about 10 yrs, good little unit, but I had to replace the pump last year, less than $150. 5 minute job to replace the old pump. If you plan to use it on driveways, I recommend getting a surface washer attachment. It covers a much larger area and will save hours of work.

MT Gianni
01-24-2021, 05:43 PM
Thanks, our car wash in town has been closed for 3 years and with town water rates it isn't coming back. 30 miles one way to a car wash is getting old. This might be the motivation to get one.

john.k
01-24-2021, 07:26 PM
Put a water filter on your new cleaner,no matter what the price range........there is considerable sand and grit in mains water ,and your new cleaner will retain performance much longer with a filter.......the filter can be swapped to the cleaner when the old cleaner is worn out.

fcvan
01-25-2021, 12:36 AM
The Wife bought an electric one years ago, learned the hard way how far back to spray things like wood and radiator fins. It did a great job on most things withing reason. I took a look at one that was portable and took batteries like a hand drill. It used a pick up tube so you could operate without water or shore power nearby. I store my atc quads in a storage unit near the dunes and thought being able to clean them off and blow dry before putting them away would be a plus.

It turns out there is plenty of fresh water close by in ponds away from the beach, a filtered pick up would help with clean up. The first time I really hosed down the quads, I sprayed the important parts with RainX windshield washer fluid, and gunk doesn't stick to the frame and other parts. I saw some organic cleaner that attacks rust and leaves a protective layer I might have to try.

Mk42gunner
01-26-2021, 12:03 AM
I'm not all that wild about mixing electricity and water, especially with a (probably) wet me anywhere near.

I bought a used Craftsman gas powered washer that I used a few times, then it has sat in the barn for a couple of years.

Unless you store it inside in the winter, make sure you frost proof it.

Robert

LUCKYDAWG13
01-26-2021, 07:40 AM
I'm not all that wild about mixing electricity and water, especially with a (probably) wet me anywhere near.

I bought a used Craftsman gas powered washer that I used a few times, then it has sat in the barn for a couple of years.

Unless you store it inside in the winter, make sure you frost proof it.

Robert

Frost proof how do you do this

Petrol & Powder
01-26-2021, 09:56 AM
There's just not much to a pressure washer. A high pressure pump and a gas engine or electric motor to turn it.

I purchased a mid-grade gasoline one many years ago and used it until the pump failed. Purchased a replacement pump from Northern and fitted that to the same engine. It is one of those tools that sits around a lot and get used a little. If you go with a gasoline engine, use non-ethanol fuel and run the gas tank dry before you put it away. Long term storage seems to be the biggest killer.

A couple of things to consider: There are two basic ratings that work together - Maximum pressure (PSI) and volume (GPM). There's practical limit to both of those ratings. You don't need (or want) super high pressures for most household tasks. So if your choice is between 3000 PSI and 5000 PSI, you probably don't need the 5000 PSI model. And high output volumes require high input volumes. High volumes may exceed what your house water supply can deliver.
My pressure washer is right at the edge of what my house water system can deliver, particularly if I have a long run from the faucet and some elevation.

Another issue is the parts used. Some pressure washers utilize proprietary parts (fittings, nozzles, hoses, etc. ) and some use very universal parts. Try to avoid the proprietary stuff. You WILL need to replace parts eventually and it's a PITA when you need to convert half the pressure washer to other type of fittings.

As for electric v. gasoline; that decision depends heavily on the end user. The electric units require a little less maintenance and starting involves turning a switch. The gasoline units offer a little more portability but you're still constrained by the water source.
With exclusive use of non-ethanol fuel and proper storage techniques; you can overcome most of the problems associated with long term storage.

In the end, you're buying some type of power source (gasoline or electric) and some type of pump (PSI & GPM), the rest is just window dressing.

CastingFool
01-26-2021, 10:28 AM
To winterize a pressure washer, you run RV antifreeze through the pump and hose. Just hand crank it until the antifreeze comes out the end of the hose. I wasn't successful doing that with my new pump, so I just removed the pump and stored it in the basement.

farmbif
01-26-2021, 10:38 AM
I can't tell you how many pressure washers I resurrected out of the scrap yard but the only pressure washer pump worth rebuilding are the cat brand ones unless you got a great source for cheap parts for general or AR brand.
the main thing with the cheap ones is to be sure to pump all the water out of the pump when your done using it. the aluminum heads on the pump corrode and the small round pillars in the head hold the check valves in place and once the aluminum is gone the pump is worthless.

pastera
01-26-2021, 10:51 AM
Have had a small (1650 PSI Husky) electric for about 15 years.
Works fine for deck and house cleaning but slow.
Useless for cleaning a driveway - it just doesn't move enough water.

For those who don't like mixing water with electricity - All of the electric pressure washers I've seen have a ground fault interupter built into the plug. Also, all more modern homes are required to have GFI's on all outside receptacles.
I've sprayed down my electric pressure washer quite often while using it and have never triggered the GFIs.

Blowing out the pump with the air compressor is my method of winterizing but I still move it into the basement (+1 for electric).

LUCKYDAWG13
01-26-2021, 07:32 PM
To winterize a pressure washer, you run RV antifreeze through the pump and hose. Just hand crank it until the antifreeze comes out the end of the hose. I wasn't successful doing that with my new pump, so I just removed the pump and stored it in the basement.

I had know idea thanks

Mk42gunner
01-26-2021, 09:25 PM
I did exactly as CastingFool advised. RV antifreeze seems to work as well as the more expensive stuff marketed for the same use. Probably the same stuff in a different bottle.

Robert

CastingFool
01-27-2021, 11:23 AM
I did exactly as CastingFool advised. RV antifreeze seems to work as well as the more expensive stuff marketed for the same use. Probably the same stuff in a different bottle.

Robert

Wasn't my idea, Robert. I only did what the owners manual suggested. RB antifreeze is not poisonous like automotive antifreeze is, not that you're gonna drink water from a pressure washer

rondog
01-27-2021, 11:30 AM
I've never used one of these - can you use soap in them? Or are they water only?

Garyshome
01-27-2021, 11:32 AM
Buy a gas one. Every home needs a pressure washer!

metricmonkeywrench
01-27-2021, 01:58 PM
I've never used one of these - can you use soap in them? Or are they water only?

Most decent ones, gas or electric have some means of soap dispensing, some internal with a suction hose setup (better) or via a wand attachment (poor) the local home improvement stores generally have a selection of soap concentrates for various tasks from car washing to concrete cleaning.

Winger Ed.
01-27-2021, 04:01 PM
I've never used one of these - can you use soap in them? Or are they water only?

Most have a bottle or separate tank for (low foaming)soap.
The machine mixes it in automatically.

Its basically a glorified version of how the quarter car wash does it.

CraigOK
01-28-2021, 08:29 AM
We have a pool and a big circle driveway and I've spent days pressure washing and still haven't gotten the black mold from all of it removed. If you have a large area I'd seriously consider waiting until you can spend more to get one with more power. Either way I'd look in to a turbo nozzle to go with it, that will save you some time. Good luck

Ural Driver
01-28-2021, 10:47 AM
This is one of the main tasks I get done with mine. I've done driveways and sidewalks for 3 other households as well as mine. At present, I use a turbo nozzle, but if I get called to do many more, I have been looking at the various 'Surface Cleaners" like this one.

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1hole
01-28-2021, 01:39 PM
IF you get a gas powered washer try to get one with a Honda motor, they are easier to start, they run better and last longer than any others I know of.

The "point of the spear" for pressure washers is the nozzle. To wash large level surfaces (drives, walkways, pool decks) a nozzle with an adjustable flat fan pattern works great and it's as fast as you're gonna get. There is a rotary spray pattern nozzle that works great for large vertical and wood surfaces, it's especially good for house walls and decks and for cleaning vehicles; very much worth having. Straight stream nozzles throw water far and high, they're really good for rinsing after cleaning house walls with soap, but be careful with it; mine (max 3,000 psi/3 gpm) will bore holes in most concrete if I don't keep it moving.

Quality high pressure washers usually have "quick connect" high pressure hoses and wands/nozzles that make it fast and simple to exchange spray patterns as needed. TSC (Tractor Supply Company) stores usually have a good collection of hoses, assorted nozzles plus "slow" and quick-change connectors for pressure washers. TSC has an adjustable extendable fiberglass shaft that makes washing most houses easy ... and without using ladders; I really LIKE that part!