Primers on GunBroker

[Bmi48219]

Just saw $250.00 bid for 1,000 SR primers and the auction isn’t finished yet!
I used to get ticked when Bass Pro wanted $40.00 per 1,000.
Ads abound for 9mm SD ammo at $1.50 a round. Can’t wait to see what the proposed ‘micro-engraved’ traceable will cost.

[Garyshome]

Unbelievable.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Davy Sprocket]

Been up in that territory for at least a couple weeks now. I'm planning on rationing the primers and powder I have now for the next two years. I have been tempted to get a few powders at the 100-125`price range. Ones that are hard to come by in regular times.

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[Wheelgun]

If a person thought they’d become available again, now is the time to sell and replace with new stock later.... But will they ever become readily available again???

[Bmi48219]

I’m thinking even if things get back to normal supply-wise we can assume 20% rise in prices for components. Just hope five years down the road we aren’t reminiscing about when primers were 10 cents.

[M-Tecs]

Highest sold price I have seen for 1,000 small rifle was $1,188

[MrWolf]

Wow. See where a former Democrat politician created a glove with a chip in it for a "smart gun"? Price was over $2,000. Wanna bet they push it to be only one acceptable?

[dverna]

If a person thought they’d become available again, now is the time to sell and replace with new stock later.... But will they ever become readily available again???

I decided to do that. Left myself about a 4-6 year supply that will last a lifetime if I must conserve. I expect supply to return to normal but pricing in the $40-50/1000 range. Current backorders are running about one year, but some of that is driven by companies placing orders from multiple suppliers hopping to get something from someone. I am hoping it will take about 12-24 months to stabilize.

There is not a black hole sucking up every primer produced for eternity...it will ebb eventually. Concern that the government will attempt to inhibit sales only adds to increasing supply as factories will continue to run at capacity. Guys like me who would order 30-50k during promotions will not be able to do so...but that helps the normal user, and may help further reduce prices as inventories expand.

I have planned for that by helping friends who do not shoot a lot or reload. If orders are limited to say 10k, I will still get 50k by having them order for me...but most people will not do that.

I am planning for another shortage in 2024 when Harris steals the next election.

[M-Tecs]

The push for green primers with a limited shelf life prevents me from profiting from the current craziness. I am hopeful that things get better but I am planning for worst case.

[JimB..]

The push for green primers with a limited shelf life prevents me from profiting from the current craziness. I am hopeful that things get better but I am planning for worst case.
This^

[dverna]

The push for green primers with a limited shelf life prevents me from profiting from the current craziness. I am hopeful that things get better but I am planning for worst case.

I am 70. My timeline is shorter. No matter what happens, I can ride it out. If they banned all components tomorrow, I would not suffer or want for much. Green primers, do not concern me. If they come, I will use them and keep my current inventory for SHTF.

[DiverJay]

Just sold an 8lb of Win 760 on GB for $566. I was just trying my money back since I don't shoot 760. So I started the auction at retail price of $188. Part of me feels guilty about this because it feels like I'm price gouging, which was never my intent. I honestly did not expect this. On the other hand, he's real happy and there were like 25 bids on an item that 6-months ago, I could hardly give away. I think I am going to find some extra goodies to throw in. Maybe a brick of primers would lessen my guilt.

[trails4u]

Just sold an 8lb of Win 760 on GB for $566. I was just trying my money back since I don't shoot 760. So I started the auction at retail price of $188. Part of me feels guilty about this because it feels like I'm price gouging, which was never my intent. I honestly did not expect this. On the other hand, he's real happy and there were like 25 bids on an item that 6-months ago, I could hardly give away. I think I am going to find some extra goodies to throw in. Maybe a brick of primers would lessen my guilt.

You have nothing to feel guilty about. You started at a fair price and then the market did what the market does. Enjoy your profit, and go do something gun fun with it!

[dverna]

Just sold an 8lb of Win 760 on GB for $566. I was just trying my money back since I don't shoot 760. So I started the auction at retail price of $188. Part of me feels guilty about this because it feels like I'm price gouging, which was never my intent. I honestly did not expect this. On the other hand, he's real happy and there were like 25 bids on an item that 6-months ago, I could hardly give away. I think I am going to find some extra goodies to throw in. Maybe a brick of primers would lessen my guilt.

You realize you need HazMat to ship it? You can get into a world of hurt if you ship illegally.

Hope you know what you are doing and not being set up

[DiverJay]

You realize you need HazMat to ship it? You can get into a world of hurt if you ship illegally.

Hope you know what you are doing and not being set up

I'm a Fedex approved hazmat shipper but thanks for the heads up. Been shipping powder and primers legally since 2013. So yeah, I kind of know what I am doing.

[barnabus]

I'm a Fedex approved hazmat shipper but thanks for the heads up. Been shipping powder and primers legally since 2013. So yeah, I kind of know what I am doing.

there is always one who assumes another is a idiot. funny you told him you are a HM shipper..made me chuckle

[No_1]

there is always one who assumes another is a idiot. funny you told him you are a HM shipper..made me chuckle

Your response made me chuckle......

A word of caution from member who has researched the requirements to ship primers is not an assumption of another’s idiocy but instead exactly what it is, a word of caution.

[DiverJay]

Your response made me chuckle......

A word of caution from member who has researched the requirements to ship primers is not an assumption of another’s idiocy but instead exactly what it is, a word of caution.

I disagree. There is a big difference between someone who has "researched the requirements" and someone who paid the fees, taken the class, passed the tests, received certification, and has shipped 1,000's of HM packages over the years. Some people should stay in their lane rather than make assumptions and cast ominous warnings to those they do not know; no matter how well intentioned they may be. And yeah, I did feel like I was being called an idiot and the insinuation was definitely there that I was somehow doing something illegal. Not cool.

[dverna]

I disagree. There is a big difference between someone who has "researched the requirements" and someone who paid the fees, taken the class, passed the tests, received certification, and has shipped 1,000's of HM packages over the years. Some people should stay in their lane rather than make assumptions and cast ominous warnings to those they do not know; no matter how well intentioned they may be. And yeah, I did feel like I was being called an idiot and the insinuation was definitely there that I was somehow doing something illegal. Not cool.

Sorry I offended you but I see a lot of folks on gun forums who do not know that a HM is required. If you have been here for a while you will see a lot of threads about it and examples....but with only 70 posts I suppose you may have missed them all.

BTW, your low post count was the "red flag" I used to assume you may be ignorant...btw that does not imply stupidity...just lack of knowledge.

Anyway, if you have gotten your undies in a knot get over it...forgive and forget and move on.

Again. sorry I assumed you were ignorant of the regulations. I will try to avoid your posts in the future. One of my best friends is named "Jay" and I am buying a tank for my PCP gun, so it will not be hard to remember you Mr. DiverJay.

[DiverJay]

Sorry I offended you but I see a lot of folks on gun forums who do not know that a HM is required. If you have been here for a while you will see a lot of threads about it and examples....but with only 70 posts I suppose you may have missed them all.

BTW, your low post count was the "red flag" I used to assume you may be ignorant...btw that does not imply stupidity...just lack of knowledge.

Anyway, if you have gotten your undies in a knot get over it...forgive and forget and move on.

Again. sorry I assumed you were ignorant of the regulations. I will try to avoid your posts in the future. One of my best friends is named "Jay" and I am buying a tank for my PCP gun, so it will not be hard to remember you Mr. DiverJay.

Apology accepted. Have fun playing with your BB gun.

[kevin c]

Gunbroker final auction prices on small pistol primers are as bad or worse; $300-400/K is pretty common, and I've seen the equivalent of $500-600/K on auctions clearly marked for lots of 500.

It's true that some sellers set minimum bids or buy-it-now prices that high, but most set no or low minimums and it's the bidders who are driving the prices. Maybe GB represents the extreme response to limited local buying opportunities on a commodity that still has some availability nationwide. On my state's gun forums the price is hovering around $80-100/K, but recently ads offering SPP are fewer and are asking higher prices and ads wanting to buy or trade for SPP are up.

[Bmi48219]

One thing I’ve come to learned since joining this forum is to keep enough components on hand to weather extended shortages. Loaded ammo, and primers are virtually out of reach. I haven’t looked at powder yet. Plated and jacketed projectiles are going up / getting scarce too. Reminds me of the 1970 gas shortages, and even the shortages ended, gas prices never came back down to pre-shortage levels. I don’t see ammo & components ever returning to 2001 prices either.

[wyowillys46]

Inflation and the increase in money supply from these stimulus bills guarantee that the prices of components (and all other goods) will increase.

[Kraschenbirn]

Last night I browsed through the on-line catalogue of a "Firearms Accessory" auction currently being run by a local auction house. With a week remaining before close of the sale, bids have already surpassed the ridiculous...without adding on the auction house 15% commission or HAZMAT (if required)! Note: If one goes through the whole 20 pages, there are some prices on some 'vintage' and/or 'oddball' ammo and brass. Anyone who might be interested can drop me a PM and I'll provide a link to the catalogue.

Bill

[Bmi48219]

Reloading components & ammo; historically gasoline, N-95 masks, etc.
When panic, crisis or other real or imaginary events cause a price to skyrocket; the post-event price seldom, if ever drops back down to near pre-event levels.
Paper towels are 50% more expensive since Covid hit. Ok, there will be a period when demand exceeds supply and the public is gouged by profiteers. The cost to make paper towels doesn’t double. But once supply catches up with demand a 50% price increase is simply taking advantage of a bad situation.
Even without the additional costs proposed new regulations will incur our mutual pastime is going to be more expensive.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Bmi48219,
Don't forget to add the AR-15 to that list. Those prices have risen and have fell, a couple times in the last 20 years. Not long ago (2019), those prices were at the bottom. Now our country is poised to possibly see record high prices for a AR-15. I predict by June, some of us will be wishing we'd bought a few at the bottom price.

[Bmi48219]

JonB, without a doubt you’re right.
I can see raw materials prices rising some and manufacturers costs to be Covid compliant adding a little. But only a blind optimist would argue the increased prices of ARs isn’t a result of a panic driven demand.
It’s like car dealers charging 20 to 30% above MSRP for a 2021 Corvette because they are in short supply; when the MSRP includes a good profit to begin with.
I wonder if component manufacturers are jacking up the wholesale price or if it starts running wild at retail level.
During the first oil shortage in the seventies I worked on a project in an east coast refinery. From the roof of the unit we were repairing you could see several dozen tankers anchored off shore. I asked the refinery engineer if they were sitting there because of the shortage. He said they were waiting for their turn to offload. Some had been there months. At some point you have to preface “shortage” with “contrived”.

[Shawlerbrook]

I am glad I have what I have and wouldn’t sell for any amount of profit. Hope I am wrong, but I doubt things will ever go back to primers at $30/1000 and $30/# powder.

[farmbif]

I want to sell 1000 primers for $1000.
I could have that Cessna 172 in no time

[Winger Ed.]

That fuel shortage then was artificial.
After the price jumped way up, it was suddenly over.

There's a big storage tank farm East of Dallas with a bunch of those tanks that the lids float on top of the fuel.

A news story from back then showed a tank farm in Houston where all the lids were full up at the top.
A few days later, I was going by the one near here, and noticed they were all at the top too.
But the local gas stations somehow couldn't get any to sell.

[Murphy]

I've watched as the prices have climbed for reloading components. I sometimes sit and wonder, $350 dollars for 1K of primers? Bricks being broken in 500 lots because some can't afford to go that high, but they can go as high as $200. And yes, I've seen 500 primers go at that price and slightly above.

I'm thankful my needs are met and I'm comfortable with the supplies I have on hand. I've only made a couple of purchases since all of this started back months ago. Thankfully, one online purchase on Gunbroker was well within reason, and another was from a board member here.

Murphy

[perotter]

Even with primers at $350 a K and powder at $100-200 a pound, if ones using their own cast bullets it's still cheaper than buying loaded pistol and most rifle ammo.

Fortunately I don't need to buy primers or powder now or maybe ever.

[Loudy13]

I disagree. There is a big difference between someone who has "researched the requirements" and someone who paid the fees, taken the class, passed the tests, received certification, and has shipped 1,000's of HM packages over the years. Some people should stay in their lane rather than make assumptions and cast ominous warnings to those they do not know; no matter how well intentioned they may be. And yeah, I did feel like I was being called an idiot and the insinuation was definitely there that I was somehow doing something illegal. Not cool.

DeeJay maybe you should relax, you may have felt like you were being called and idiot and then you replied like a horses *** and proved it. If your feeling get hurt every time someone on here throws out a suggestion or caution your in the wrong forum. "have fun with your BB gun" childish!

Have a nice day

[Walla2]

My local Sportsman's Warehouse has not had primers for a long time. Yesterday they had 3000 or so CCI large pistol primers @$2.69/100 and Federal large rifle match, about 3000. No price under those. Hope springs eternal.

[Desertbuck]

This recent shortage has definitely gotten crazy! Don't think I'll be buying factory primers again anytime soon. I started making my own again. Saving what factory stuff I have for a rainy day. Also spent a little bit of cash on stocking up on a lifetime supply of chemicals necessary to make the Frankford arsenal H42 compound that I settled on and learned to make with the help of members of this form.

[perotter]

This recent shortage has definitely gotten crazy! Don't think I'll be buying factory primers again anytime soon. I started making mine own again. Saving what factory stuff I have for a rainy day. Also spent a little bit of cash on stocking up on a lifetime supply of chemicals necessary to make the Frankford arsenal H42 compound that I settled on and learned to make with the help of members of this form.

Yup. Better to spend the time solving the problem than spend the time just complaining about the problem. Plus solving this problem brings peace of mind.