Welp, I've just purchased a Hi-Point. Any tips/tricks for using it/loading for it?

[VariableRecall]

I'm a fairly recent gun owner. I've purchased my first firearm, a S&W Model 10-5 that I've found to be a fantastic wheely-gat. I've shot about 300 rounds in it so far thanks to you fine people on the forums.
Still, I was thinking that it would be a smart move to have SOMETHING that I could own that's American made (very important!), chambers 9mm, and that would be the kind of firearm that would be a little more rough and tumble than a blued 50 year old masterpiece.

So, I managed to get a very good price on a used Hi-Point C9 at auction for about 35% off MSRP for a new in box model. It will be in my hands in a couple of weeks. Considering some listings for them exceeded the MSRP, and the current global situation, I got pretty lucky considering I paid about 3.5 times the amount I paid for the Hi-point for my 10-5. Considering how well my 10-5 shoots, it's worth way more than that.

Either way, it seems like you fine people on the Gunloads forums are quite fond of the Zinc Brick that spits brass. I'm looking to potentially CC with it as well its intended home defense role.

Thanks to Tumbleweed Christmas 2020 I've came into possession of a Lee 2 Cavity 110gn SWC's sized to .358, which I've seen can work for both .38 Special AND 9mm Luger/Parabellum if sized correctly. I will have to rely on Boolit friends' eqiuipment and expertise to cast and lube them but it makes for a fine start. If I can find primers for a reasonable price, that is.

Also 9mm dies have been wiped off the face of the earth, so I'm certainly in the market for one that I can find at MSRP, preferably a Lee for the cost savings.

I have some 9mm purchased at retail by some miracle that I was intending to give to a pal, but the 9mm worth a little more in my own hands and I will have some ammunition to familiarize myself to it to what I feel is the minimum capacity to do so.

So, do you have any tips for a first time hi-point owner? What rounds/loads does it like the most? Any tips on CCing the thing? It's probably going to be a little easier than CCing my 10-5, but I'd like to know some experiences if they can be useful.

What diameter do you recommend sizing 9mm Boolits to?

Any tips on maintenance or care that would be different from care of a blued revolver?

I know this sounds very stupid, but are there wood grips compatible for a Hi-Point? That would certainly improve its aesthetics a lot.

I'd like to know! Thanks!
-VariableRecall.

[richhodg66]

I don't own one, but have heard those High Points are reliable to a fault. I've also heard that the company has very good after purchase support if you need it and like you said, 100% American made. Lots of bashers out there, don't listen to them.

My real gripe with them is they are extremly heavy and ungainly to me. Seems like they would be awkward carry guns.

I size 9mm to .357. I haven't loaded nearly as much as some on here have of 9mm, but in my experience, it isn't as finicky as it's made out to be. I think all you have to do with the High Point is come up with a standard, basic loading, probably something like a 125 grain round nose and a charge of Unique or Bullseye and go. It ios common for new reloaders to over think this.

I already sold a spare set of 9mm dies I had lying around or I'd help you out. I personally like the four die sets Lee makes for pistol dies and if I were to buy new now, that is what I'd get. Be patient, stuff will become available again eventually.

Wood grips would be like putting lip stick on a pig. Just accept it for what it is, you'll be happier in the long run. Don't be ashamed of the High Point, though, not looking but of one showed up cheap in .45, I'd likely buy it.

[Led]

I have a High Point 45acp carbine. It's a guilty pleasure, it looks like a space gun but runs 100% and is built like a tank. No doubt it would make a good club if I ran out of ammo. The Red Ball aftermarket magazines are very high quality.

Later,
Stephen

[GhostHawk]

I have a C9 that I bought at the pawn shop. Mag release was messed up so I ended up calling customer service.

I actually got upset with the gal because I wanted to give her my credit card number/info and she would not accept it.

3 days later the parts arrived with 2 pages of instructions, one with good full color pictures showing exactly what to do.
Also included were the spare magazine I wanted and a mag loader. Zero charge to me.

Mine was one of 2 9mm's I have that keyhole factory ammo at 20 feet. So I switched to the Lee 6 cavity .358 125 gr flat nose round point. These cast at .359, 3595 or .360. Loaded them as cast over 3 grains of Red Dot. (Have gone as high as 4.5 in a 9mm carbine)

Biggest things to watch for.

A Keyhole at short range = bullet not big enough. Plan on 38 special mold at .358 or larger.

Be careful with your mags, fully loaded mag dropped from waist height can change the geometry of the feed lips and cause problems. The easy answer is a needle nose pliers and a mag that works. Make the dinged one like the good one and all is well.


Don't expect it to be something it is not.

What it is, is reliable, dependable, reasonably accurate.

It is also a zinc brick and perhaps the 2nd ugliest gun in existence.

Beauty is in more than the eye of the beholder. An ugly gun that is 100% rock solid dependable has a beauty all its own.

Now my Highpoint Carbines are unfussy, size, shape, load, they don't care, they just shoot.
They feed anything.

My other 9mm carbine is a Handi Rifle stubb job. Essentially a 9mm barrel shoehorned into a short shotgun barrel.
Sights, etc added, extractor adapted to fit 9mm. Mine went from keyholeing Fed Factory ammo to stacking .3595 boolits into less than an inch at 100.

Its light, short, soft shooting, and quiet and wicked. It would mess up your day.

Bullet fit is king. Use a good lube, I like Ben's Liquid lube original recipe but with 1& carnuba wax added.
Moderate loads should be all you need. No point in trying to increase the power.

My alloy tends towards the soft side being essentially 50% clip on wheel weights and 50% soft lead or range scrap with 1% tin added for fill. Treat them right and they will treat you right.

Take down is a bit of a pain so I just lock action back, scrub inside with q-tip dipped in ATF. Get the worst of the gunk off. I leave the bore alone. The carnuba leaves my bores mirror shiny with a super thin wax layer of protection. Hard to improve on that IMO.

[GhostHawk]

Like LED I also have the .45acp carbine with a Red Dot sight on it. It is the most accurate of all my Hipoint carbines tested.

But it was the only one that was new also. And yes the Bananna Red Ball mags for the 9mm carbine work great.
The single stack into double stack Red Ball for the .45acp also works great. I highly recommend them. Essentially doubling your firepower for each one you own.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

The Hi-Point is a fine tool, I doubt I would carry it, but it surely is better than carrying nothing.
I'm not a fan of the smallish C9,,,just my personal taste, I've shoot a half dozen different C9 guns that a friend acquired, he wanted me to test them for him, as he isn't much of a firearm enthusiast. All 6 were reliable and successfully/accurately shot my castboolit ammo with .357 sized boolits...as well as factory ammo.

I have the basic full size 40 (JCP40) and previously I had a 40 carbine, but someone else wanted that more than I did ;)
The full size 40 has been a great shooter and loves HOT loads.
that's my 2¢

[Petrol & Powder]

I'll try not to bash the High Point too much, but it will be difficult.

The High Point is a demonstration of the practical limits of the simple blowback operating system. Once you get much beyond the pressures of 380 Auto or 9 x 18 Mak, you either have to go to a locked breach OR resort to a lot of mass in the slide. Guess which way High Point went?

Can it work ? - Clearly the answer is, yes.
Is it elegant? - Not even a little bit.

To say the manufacturing costs are held low in the production of the C9 would be about the most generous thing I could say about the quality of a C9.
The money used to purchase that C9 probably could have been put in the bank and held until ammunition, components, dies, molds, etc. become available. (And those things will become available again). So I cannot endorse purchasing a gun such as the C9 simply because it is available and you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

But it is now, feat accompli.

As for using the C9 as a carry pistol? I can't recommend that at all unless it was your only option.
As for, "Any tips on maintenance or care that would be different from care of a blued revolver?" - YES, black Krylon spray paint will cover any flaws in the finish. You can even get black Krylon wrinkle finish paint to exactly duplicate the original finish of a High Point (or a TEC-9)

I'm sorry to be so harsh.

[onelight]

Enjoy your Highpoint , you bought it used so can probably get most of your money back if you decide to sell it.
They have a reputation for being reliable and reliable is second only to have a gun in my list of requirements :) and sounds like they have a good warranty , and 9mm is one of the cheapest centerfires to shoot normally (if we ever see normal again) . I assume you are young "student " and broke " student " . I have been young and broke and may be old and broke someday. Do the best you can with what you have and enjoy . You can always sell and save and to up grade upgrade but you may be entirely happy with the two handguns you have .
The model 10 would also make a good CC gun for me if it has a 4" barrel or less.

[gpidaho]

VariableRecall: The Hi-Point pistols are strong and reliable and as ugly as a whole pan full of....... Well, you know. The only Hi-point I have is the 40S&W carbine and it has never missed a beat. Again pretty ugly but a great shooter. For your 9mm I'd recommend the Lee 120 TC as it seems to work well in 9s of all descriptions. The RCBS 124 TC is just about the same bullet if you would prefer an iron mould. I'd carry the S&W and leave the HI-point bedside. Gp

[VariableRecall]

I have been young and broke and may be old and broke someday. Do the best you can with what you have and enjoy . You can always sell and save and to up grade upgrade but you may be entirely happy with the two handguns you have .
The model 10 would also make a good CC gun for me if it has a 4" barrel or less.

My Model 10-5 does have a 4 inch barrel, so it's fairly concealable. I have a winter friendly cargo jacket that fits it quite nicely. The jacket does a good job of smoothing over the contours.

I suppose the Hi-Point could fit in the same cargo area as well. One thing I didn't know about that jacket beforehand is that it was actually designed for being concealed carry friendly!

[onelight]

I carry 4" revolvers IWB and OWB often and they will cover with some vests. Or with a t shirt and then an unbuttoned shirt over it.
If your state has open carry it sure makes CC easier.

[VariableRecall]

I'll try not to bash the High Point too much, but it will be difficult.

The High Point is a demonstration of the practical limits of the simple blowback operating system. Once you get much beyond the pressures of 380 Auto or 9 x 18 Mak, you either have to go to a locked breach OR resort to a lot of mass in the slide. Guess which way High Point went?

Can it work ? - Clearly the answer is, yes.
Is it elegant? - Not even a little bit.

To say the manufacturing costs are held low in the production of the C9 would be about the most generous thing I could say about the quality of a C9.
The money used to purchase that C9 probably could have been put in the bank and held until ammunition, components, dies, molds, etc. become available. (And those things will become available again). So I cannot endorse purchasing a gun such as the C9 simply because it is available and you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

But it is now, feat accompli.

As for using the C9 as a carry pistol? I can't recommend that at all unless it was your only option.
As for, "Any tips on maintenance or care that would be different from care of a blued revolver?" - YES, black Krylon spray paint will cover any flaws in the finish. You can even get black Krylon wrinkle finish paint to exactly duplicate the original finish of a High Point (or a TEC-9)

I'm sorry to be so harsh.

Well considering that the amount I paid for the hi point could have been nearly 300 Small Pistol Primers for their scam prices, I got a great deal. One of the two Items I could get right now, online, at below MSRP instead of 10 times the retail price. Also, I'm not sure if people will be able to purchase firearms online in the near future, so why not do it for a better deal than I would get at retail? I had checked for any Hi-Point dealers in my area and none of them had any left in stock.

Obviously, I'm not looking to buy anything over MSRP. That would include reloading equipment as well. I'm willing to be stingy with my 9mm for the time being and a little more generous with .38 special.

[VariableRecall]

I carry 4" revolvers IWB and OWB often and they will cover with some vests. Or with a t shirt and then an unbuttoned shirt over it.
If your state has open carry it sure makes CC easier.

My state is technically open carry but it's best to be on the better side of concealment.

[Chris S]

Well, I don't own a C9, nor do I carry. But, I do own a Hipoint carbine in 45apc, bought it new, and would do so again. It's heavy, hard to take down and has a fairly crappy trigger. But it never, I mean never misses a beat. I load the standard 45acp 230 grain cast RN slug over 5 grains of 231 and can rain hell on anything within perhaps 75 yards. My carbine is in one of the Hi Tower bullpup stocks and has a Red dot sight, so really quirky, Spaceman Spiff looking and yes, heavy. But the combo is fast, fast to acquire and fast to follow up. 6" gongs at 50 yards will ring 9 times (thats what the mag holds) in perhaps 20 seconds or so (you do have to wait for the things to stop swinging a little between shots).

Again, I do not own a C9, but if it is in the same family as the carbine, it can't be bad.

Chris

[FergusonTO35]

The most recent Hi-Points we've gotten at my side job shop were about as nice as a cheap gun can get. Fit and finish was actually quite good, and the trigger pull was comparable to a more expensive cheap gun like Taurus or S&W SD series. If HP came out with a carbine that could use Glock mags it would effectively be a license to print money.

[BigAlofPa.]

I have 8 Hi-points. 4 pistols and 4 carbines. They are range toys for me. But they don't miss a beat. Only one that gets wonky is my .380 when it needs cleaned.

[Petrol & Powder]

Well considering that the amount I paid for the hi point could have been nearly 300 Small Pistol Primers for their scam prices,....

OR, you could have held onto that money until the scam prices receded and purchased 6000 Small Pistol Primers with that money. (or something else later).

[P Flados]

I think much Hi Point bashing is unwarranted.

From a practical standpoint the extra weight has both a downside and an upside. Yes is heavy enough to discourage CC use. However the weight makes it more pleasant to shoot. For a newbie, this encourages range time and adequate range time is very important for becoming competent. A lot of new gun owners are going to consider range time to be very "un-fun" with their compact or sub-compact 9mm guns.

You indicate that you have a 0.358" Lee 110 SWC. The closest item I see in the current list of Lee Molds is the 358-105-SWC. FYI, all of my newer Lee Molds generally drop 0.001" under the nominal value and a lot of people end up liking 0.357" for cast in the 9mm (more on this below).

Some automatics can get picky and the SWC nose can cause problems feeding. However the single stack Hi Point is typically noted to be "willing to feed anything". As such I am thinking your mold has a good chance of working fine in your gun.

Some get lucky and have no problem loading cast in a 9mm. Many find this round to be more difficult. I was in the later category. If you read up on cast in the 9mm you will find the two most important points are to get a good plunk test and "Fit is King". After those two points, the next item I would recommend is consider powder coating if tumble lube or traditional lube are not getting the job done.

For the plunk test, see if a dummy round made with an "as cast" bullet using your hardest available alloy will freely slide into your chamber and "plunk" into the fully chambered position. If it does not plunk, figure out why. It could be the case is too big, or you could be getting bullet contact up in the throat. If you have a throat problem, increase seating depth as needed to fix it. If you get "as cast" to "plunk," this is worth trying for starters. If "as cast" is too snug, sizing down will be needed.

Undersized cast bullets is probably the biggest problem people have with the 9mm. Starting out with a 0.358" Lee mold is not a bad thing at all. It is much easier to size bullets down as needed than to modify a mold to get bigger bullets.

Also note that I am talking about undersized after the bullet is seated in the case. Most standard expander plugs leave the case ID smaller than optimum and the case sizes down then bullet during seating. If you have a standard expander plug and it is causing problem, I recommend not hesitating to "upgrade" this component (the line of NOE expander plugs is a great option). You will want to open up the case to the right ID (generally 0.001" to 0.002" under bullet diameter) for the full depth needed when seating the bullet.

For your initial live ammo testing, I recommend trying to keep cast bullets in a 9mm as large as possible yet still be able to pass the plunk test. After you have a load that feeds good and gives zero leading, you may want to see what happens with cast bullets that are a little smaller. Many have been frustrated with leading when they "thought" (or just hoped) their bullet was big enough, but their gun had a different opinion.

[FergusonTO35]

Lyman M die is your friend!

[richhodg66]

I'll try not to bash the High Point too much, but it will be difficult.

The High Point is a demonstration of the practical limits of the simple blowback operating system. Once you get much beyond the pressures of 380 Auto or 9 x 18 Mak, you either have to go to a locked breach OR resort to a lot of mass in the slide. Guess which way High Point went?

Can it work ? - Clearly the answer is, yes.
Is it elegant? - Not even a little bit.

To say the manufacturing costs are held low in the production of the C9 would be about the most generous thing I could say about the quality of a C9.
The money used to purchase that C9 probably could have been put in the bank and held until ammunition, components, dies, molds, etc. become available. (And those things will become available again). So I cannot endorse purchasing a gun such as the C9 simply because it is available and you have money burning a hole in your pocket.

But it is now, feat accompli.

As for using the C9 as a carry pistol? I can't recommend that at all unless it was your only option.
As for, "Any tips on maintenance or care that would be different from care of a blued revolver?" - YES, black Krylon spray paint will cover any flaws in the finish. You can even get black Krylon wrinkle finish paint to exactly duplicate the original finish of a High Point (or a TEC-9)

I'm sorry to be so harsh.

I'm curious, have you ever owned or shot one?

[Mk42gunner]

The only High Point I have ever fired pretty much soured me on them. It was a .40S&W, it would feed a hand cycled round reliably, which was important because it would not feed after firing. Probably a magazine issue, but as this was supposed to be a home defense weapon for my mom and step-dad, it failed miserably.

I had somewhat high hopes for it, almost everyone raves about their reliability, but that one (used) piece left a poor memory in my mind.

Robert

[megasupermagnum]

The last time I shot a HiPoint was a few months before MN banned their sale, and used prices jumped to double what they were brand new. I didn't get to sit down and test accuracy, but from what I saw, I think the HiPoint 45 ACP is a better gun than a Glock 21. The HiPoint trigger was plenty smooth, although nothing spectacular, as no striker fire gun is. It was completely reliable, and a real joy to shoot. My only real complaint is, as a left handed shooter, the safety on the HiPoint is not ideal. Sure, the HiPoint is bulky on top, but I wouldn't call it heavy. I'm fairly sure it is lighter than a 1911.

[Led]

I'm not going to internet search for this so I'll just ask. Why did MN ban HiPoints and is this ban still in place?

Thanks,
Stephen

[VariableRecall]

I'm curious, have you ever owned or shot one?

I'm quite comfortable with my brother's 1911. It packs a wallop but it certainly helps that it's a full size handgun. This will be my first time using a Hi-Point. I have pretty big hands, not well fit for stock grips on my Model 10, but the 1911 is just about a perfect fit. Looks like the Hi-Point is bulky for its caliber so it should fit my hand reasonably well.

[45workhorse]

The most recent Hi-Points we've gotten at my side job shop were about as nice as a cheap gun can get. Fit and finish was actually quite good, and the trigger pull was comparable to a more expensive cheap gun like Taurus or S&W SD series. If HP came out with a carbine that could use Glock mags it would effectively be a license to print money.

I agree with the last sentence, 100%!

[megasupermagnum]

I'm not going to internet search for this so I'll just ask. Why did MN ban HiPoints and is this ban still in place?

Thanks,
Stephen

It is called the saturday night special law. It is very obscure, and seems to be applied to guns based on emotion. The requirements only apply to the handguns, not rifles. They are as follows.

"Saturday night special pistol" means a pistol other than an antique firearm or a pistol for which the propelling force is carbon dioxide, air or other vapor, or children's pop guns or toys, having a frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breechblock:

(1) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or
(2) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch, or
(3) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter.

Of course a Glock pretty much fails all three, yet are perfectly legal to sell in MN. The other thing is that it says is... "Any federally licensed firearms dealer who sells a Saturday night special pistol, or any person who manufactures or assembles a Saturday night special pistol in whole or in part, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."

Despite that, HiPoints are sold used from time to time. It was a law aimed squarely at HiPoint and Heritage Arms. As I said, the guns you think would fail these tests like Glock's, S&W airweights, or pretty much any of the new 9mm space pistols are 100% legal for sale, no questions asked. Then out of the blue, Ruger's new Wranger 22LR is not legal for sale in MN, yet their LCR with plastic frame always has been legal, and continues to be. Also the law states air guns are included, yet I'm not aware of any air gun banned. Even the cheepie all plastic pumps are A ok. [smilie=b:

Don't think too hard, it is a junk law, written my idiots.

[Hogtamer]

I have owned owned one for several years. I leaned a unique way to pull the trigger and I jest not: Shooting right handed I cup my left hand over my right thumb, careful to keep left thumb below slide. My left forefinger goes over my right and presto, 2 finger trigger pull! No this is not a joke. To call the trigger stout is an understatement but fortunately my Ruger sr9 stays handy, at least until I can get to my shotgun.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

Mine wouldn't shoot Federal Champion without tumbling the bullets. Remington hollow points shot just fine. Ended up trading it because my thumb partially applied the safety during recoil. Wasn't worth training around a problem that didn't exist with any other pistol.

[Texas by God]

I nicknamed mine "Pig". It worked great with my Lee 105 SWC as cast loads. It was by the open back door of the shop zipped up in a Ruger pistol rug( within reach of my blue heeler pup) the last time I saw it.....I hope to find it someday. I kinda miss it!

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[VariableRecall]

I have owned owned one for several years. I leaned a unique way to pull the trigger and I jest not: Shooting right handed I cup my left hand over my right thumb, careful to keep left thumb below slide. My left forefinger goes over my right and presto, 2 finger trigger pull! No this is not a joke. To call the trigger stout is an understatement but fortunately my Ruger sr9 stays handy, at least until I can get to my shotgun.

My brother has another wacky way to try and improve the trigger pull when my Model 10 is configured its original grips. He uses his left pointer finger to pull the trigger and his right hand to fill in the lacking "meat" of the original grip. I've found that using a one-handed grip works best if I'm using the teeny grips. Still, the Houge grip works best for me.

I'm used to my pretty stiff double action, but I'd be up for a trigger workout.

[VariableRecall]

It is called the saturday night special law. It is very obscure, and seems to be applied to guns based on emotion. The requirements only apply to the handguns, not rifles. They are as follows.

"Saturday night special pistol" means a pistol other than an antique firearm or a pistol for which the propelling force is carbon dioxide, air or other vapor, or children's pop guns or toys, having a frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breechblock:

(1) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or
(2) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch, or
(3) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter.

Of course a Glock pretty much fails all three, yet are perfectly legal to sell in MN. The other thing is that it says is... "Any federally licensed firearms dealer who sells a Saturday night special pistol, or any person who manufactures or assembles a Saturday night special pistol in whole or in part, shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor."

Despite that, HiPoints are sold used from time to time. It was a law aimed squarely at HiPoint and Heritage Arms. As I said, the guns you think would fail these tests like Glock's, S&W airweights, or pretty much any of the new 9mm space pistols are 100% legal for sale, no questions asked.

That's just awful. It seems more like a law that targets the disenfranchised and prevents them from protecting themselves.

[Petrol & Powder]

To answer richodg66 - To answer, "I'm curious, have you ever owned or shot one?"

I've never owned one but I have handled and shot them.

[Harter66]

No pistols , my Bro in-law had one we shot a couple of times . Paper plates at 25 yd with whatever he had in the bag of junk drawer ammo .

I do have a 45 carbine , it's a glorified garbage disposal . It does however provide a great level of accuracy from a $200 PCC . It doesn't care if I run plated , 200s , 250s , 230 ball , RN , SWC , I don't have a WC but I bet it would run too .

Just like the PO , if it fits it ships , in the magazine that is .
The single stack mags for the carbine fit the pistols but not the other way .

[megasupermagnum]

That's just awful. It seems more like a law that targets the disenfranchised and prevents them from protecting themselves.

Of course. We even had a bill come up not long ago about giving a tax break for firearm purchases for lower income. You can bet that was shot down fast.

[FergusonTO35]

My brother has another wacky way to try and improve the trigger pull when my Model 10 is configured its original grips. He uses his left pointer finger to pull the trigger and his right hand to fill in the lacking "meat" of the original grip. I've found that using a one-handed grip works best if I'm using the teeny grips. Still, the Houge grip works best for me.

I'm used to my pretty stiff double action, but I'd be up for a trigger workout.

The K frame factory wood grip can work really well, when held in a particular way. Don't choke up on it like your hand is trying to swallow the entire gun. Situate your hand so that the bore is on a level plane with the top of your trigger finger, as if it were pointed straight forward. You'll probably find some empty space between your middle finger and the trigger guard, this is ok. What I find this does is to help pull the trigger straight back rather than back and up at the same time. Also, the revolver recoils more in a straight back fashion rather than rolling backwards with the muzzle going skyward.

[35remington]

MSM, with apologies to the good people of Minnesota......you’ve got too many idiots running government there, as you well know.

Condolences on the idiocy you must endure. I surely do like my Ruger Wrangler. Wrong to punish others through ignorance and misinformation.

[Texas by God]

My Hi-point reminds me of the old Raven .25 autos available for $40 back in the day. Heavy up top, ugly, made of zinc where possible, but work they did and shoot they did- quite well. And provided many low income( and others) owners some low cost insurance. Funny how folks who poo- poo the .25 ACP never volunteer to stand in front of one to play catch the bullet.
So sad that Minnesota folks can’t buy Hi-points or Wranglers. Too many people up there that think voting Democrat like Daddy did or Grandaddy did is a noble thing. They need to be really “woke” and realize their party is gone. It’s gone Socialist all the way down. Sorry for the drift, maintenance meds and ‘Rona fatigue setting in.
Enjoy your Hi-point! Somewhere in the archives I did a thread on mine, including how to modify it for easier slide operation. When I feel better, I’ll see if Floyd will show me on this 300 acres where he drug that gun off to!

[Thumbcocker]

I nicknamed mine "Pig". It worked great with my Lee 105 SWC as cast loads. It was by the open back door of the shop zipped up in a Ruger pistol rug( within reach of my blue heeler pup) the last time I saw it.....I hope to find it someday. I kinda miss it!

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So your excuse is that the dog ate my pistol?

[smkummer]

To be fair, I have only held a high point. My nephew bought one when he didn’t have a lot of extra cash but sold it before I even got a chance to shoot it. Your S&W 10 will be a better carry gun than the high point. I had really good results training a new female shooter for her CC in KY with a ruger LC9 ($300) I have heard others with good results with the SCCY 9 ($200)well. Maybe I should say not anything if I have never fired one, but because of its weight, I have never heard of someone using a high point for CC. Myself personally, when I CC, I like not having to feel the weight or being constantly reminded by its weight that I have it. My .02.

[FergusonTO35]

At the shop we get a lot more dissatisfied buyers with Sccy pistols than Hi Point. Honestly, HP is the only centerfire pistol I would trust that costs less than the Taurus G2C, which is the undisputed king of the sub-250.00 range.

[Texas by God]

Thumbcocker,
That's my story and I'm sticking to it....

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[Jniedbalski]

I have a few high points. A c9 a 40 s&w and a 40 carbine. They shot really good for what that are .Went out yesterday and tried out a load in my 40s&w. It was 8.0 gr hs6 with a 165gr plated fp .this shot really really good. My load lately has been 105 gr lee bullet using 4.2 gr of bulseye in my c9 high point. This shoots good also. I shoot unsized using the noe expander for the cases.lubed with 45/45/10 white label lube. Another good load is any lee 9mm bullets 115 to 124 gr and even the lee .358 125 rf bullet. Loaded with 3.5 to 4.0 of bulseye. Good shooting load

[VariableRecall]

I have a few high points. A c9 a 40 s&w and a 40 carbine. They shot really good for what that are .Went out yesterday and tried out a load in my 40s&w. It was 8.0 gr of auto comp with a 165gr plated fp .this shot really really good. My load lately has been 105 gr lee bullet using 4.2 gr of bulseye in my c9 high point. This shoots good also. I shoot unsized using the noe expander for the cases.lubed with 45/45/10 white label lube. Another good load is any lee 9mm bullets 115 to 124 gr and even the lee .358 125 rf bullet. Loaded with 3.5 to 4.0 of bulseye. Good shooting load

I believe I have the same exact Lee 105gn .358 SWC mold that you've got as well. Thanks to Idaho Mule, I cast with it for the very first time using a Dipper. I'd have to say that the 2 cavity mold is quite on the finnicky side for a first timer, but it seems quite promising.

I'm not planning on purchasing a sizing die for 9mm boolits (.357 or .358)until I get the Hi-Point in my hands and a handful of loaded rounds downrange. Considering how some people had issues with Factory rounds not engaging the rifling properly, I just want to make sure my Hi-Point C9 is not one of them. I'll have to Alox the boolits but I'm pretty sure that won't cause any issues.

[FergusonTO35]

Alox is a good lubricant. I would advise dipping the shank of each boolit into the lube, rather than tumbling. This makes sure that you get a good thick coating. Also, you may find that the expansion die doesn't flare the case mouth of a 9mm enough for an unsized boolit. They are designed with .355 jacketed bullets in mind. The Lyman M die will be what you need in this case, it's about $30.00.

[Jniedbalski]

I use NOe expanders with the lee belling tool. Noe’s expander is about 5$ each. You definitely need the expander with oversized bullets. My c9 will shoot .357 .358. Depending on what brass some times .358 might not always chamber all the way but that’s only with certain thick brass. I shoot my bullets un sized

[Jniedbalski]

Also the older high point pistols had 4 or 6 grove rifling. The new pistols have a two grove barrel

[VariableRecall]

I was able to briefly handle my C9 after we had made the first set of paperwork for the transfer. My immediate first impression of its handling reminded me of a corded power drill. All of the weight's up top and it's very light under the barrel. I'm relieved that even without a magazine it fit well in my hand and pointed quite nicely. I didn't get a good look at the sights but I understand that they are a point of debate.

I've also downloaded their manual and I've got a punch set handy for popping the thing open and taking a look when I finally get it.

[Jniedbalski]

I hade to take mine apart to. Best advise is don’t just spray out with a can cleaner/ oil. If you do take it appart watch for lying parts. Some are very small and fly to a land of unknowns. God thing high point will ship free parts even if it was my fault.

[VariableRecall]

I hade to take mine apart to. Best advise is don’t just spray out with a can cleaner/ oil. If you do take it appart watch for lying parts. Some are very small and fly to a land of unknowns. God thing high point will ship free parts even if it was my fault.

That's something to keep in mind. Thanks for the tip! I've got the manual handy. My bro uses Tetra-Gun lubricant for his 1911. It's a little on the gooey side but it does a great job for him. Would that be something you would recommend for the Hi-Point?

[Garyshome]

I think I have a couple of mags that fit that firearm [3] interested?

[Jedman]

276304I bought 2 Hi Point JHP’s about 5 years ago brand new because I got a great deal on them. After shooting one of them quite a bit I decided to modify it . I took the barrel and drilled and reamed it to 5/8” ID and turned a 45 cal. blank down to use as a liner and epoxied it in the factory barrel. I made it 5 1/2” long and threaded it 5/8 x 24 so I could add toys to it and it is now long enough to legally hunt dear with here in OH.
Well I got to say, Hi Points are tough SOB’ s, I have shot loads that are fully 45 super + loads in it and it doesn’t blink. I also made several attachments for it , a compensator, a micro red dot mount, and a oil filter attachment.
My eyesight is getting worse by the minute but a few years ago I could hit 16 oz water bottles at 50 yards more times than not with the standard iron sights and have let good shooters who have $1500 1911 target pistols try it and they give me a dumb look like where did you get this ! The thing shoots better than ANY pistol or revolver I have ever seen and is 100 % reliable. I did rework the sear / striker connection and polished the trigger linkage and it now has a “good” trigger without being dangerous.
You can say they are ugly, heavy, clunky and cheap but don’t bet against one for just plain shooting or being reliable.

Jedman

[VariableRecall]

276304I bought 2 Hi Point JHP’s about 5 years ago brand new because I got a great deal on them. After shooting one of them quite a bit I decided to modify it . I took the barrel and drilled and reamed it to 5/8” ID and turned a 45 cal. blank down to use as a liner and epoxied it in the factory barrel. I made it 5 1/2” long and threaded it 5/8 x 24 so I could add toys to it and it is now long enough to legally hunt dear with here in OH.
Well I got to say, Hi Points are tough SOB’ s, I have shot loads that are fully 45 super + loads in it and it doesn’t blink. I also made several attachments for it , a compensator, a micro red dot mount, and a oil filter attachment.
My eyesight is getting worse by the minute but a few years ago I could hit 16 oz water bottles at 50 yards more times than not with the standard iron sights and have let good shooters who have $1500 1911 target pistols try it and they give me a dumb look like where did you get this ! The thing shoots better than ANY pistol or revolver I have ever seen and is 100 % reliable. I did rework the sear / striker connection and polished the trigger linkage and it now has a “good” trigger without being dangerous.
You can say they are ugly, heavy, clunky and cheap but don’t bet against one for just plain shooting or being reliable.

Jedman

276305
Here it is! Finally in my hands!

I'm not planning on modifying my Hi-point in any serious way, except for swapping out the original grips for some of Strassel's Hydro-dipped wood texture grips, which remind me of my dad's clock radio.

Keep in mind that I've yet to take it out to the range, but I feel pretty confident in it being an interesting addition to my collection. Apparently I'm its third owner, so the trigger is well worked in. It feels rather funky in comparison to the other triggers I've felt, but it's not bad. Feels like cheating to compare my Model 10-5's trigger to this thing.

[RJM52]

Have never owned one of the handguns or carbines but have had two friends who have the carbines that have proven to be accurate and reliable.

Been teaching defensive shooting classes since the early 1990s. During that time only two students came to class with HP handguns. The first student's gun was 100% reliable and adequately accurate for the task at hand...after about 500 rounds the gun began to have feed/cycling problems that no amount of cleaning/lubrication seemed to cure. He sold it off and bough something else...

The second gun lasted the student about 1/2 the class and then launched 1/2 the side down range... He sent the gun back, they sent him a replacement which was traded in on a brand new something else...

Bob