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farmbif
01-03-2021, 07:02 PM
wondering what difference there is between the 650 and 750 beside the primer set up.
everyone is chatting about what they gonna do with extra $600 and was thinking a new Dillon 750 might be real nice and if I order now it might get here in 2 or 3 months.
ive been real satisfied with the hornady lnlap but so many people say the Dillons are so much better now might be a good time to find out for myself. and if I don't like it, it should be no problem selling it off and getting my money back

nhyrum
01-03-2021, 07:15 PM
There's a few little differences. The two "big" ones that I remember are the 750 is a touch taller, to accommodate longer oal's, and it uses a linear priming system, more akin to the 550, instead of the rotary priming system of the 650

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cas
01-03-2021, 10:09 PM
I know zip about the 750, but my advice to people about the 650 was always... if you don't plan on buying the case feeder, just buy a 550 instead.

Can you still buy a 650? I don't see it on the website.

jmorris
01-03-2021, 10:23 PM
The priming system location messes up using some bullet feeders with the 750 vs the 650.

Anything you can load on the 750 you can load on the 650.

The rotary primer feed system with the brass tipped feed tube is the most reliable system I have used on any press. The 750 uses the same plastic tipped reciprocal system that the 550 uses. The main complaint with the 650 system is that it ALWAYS feeds primers. Only a problem if your not wanting to seat primers every time you cycle the machine.

They don’t make the 650 anymore but I would find a used one before I bought a 750.

JimB..
01-04-2021, 12:36 AM
I love the rotary primer system, but some folks don’t. I bought a second 650 and a couple complete primer assemblies to have as spares when they announced the 750.

I have heard that there are issues with the slide for the powder measure interfering with the mr. bullet feeder die, but wasn’t really paying attention.

10sandxs
01-04-2021, 12:46 AM
I went from a 550 to a 750 about 6 months ago. Besides having to repurchase all the tool heads and conversion kits, im very happy with it. Took a while to learn how much you can load the case feeder, but other than that, things are going well. Probably 5-6000 rounds loaded on it so far, and just going into busy season.

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cas
01-04-2021, 01:19 AM
The main complaint with the 650 system is that it ALWAYS feeds primers.

That and chain firing/detonation issues using soft primers like Federal (which they advise against).

nhyrum
01-04-2021, 01:24 AM
It's pretty easy to disactivate the priming advance system... It's just one Allen screw. And it's pretty easy to manually advance

And I use almost exclusively federal primers, and never a kaboom.

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GARD72977
01-04-2021, 01:51 AM
I really hate the 650. I get a lot of angry replies. The rotary priming system is the worst I have ever used. Get a 550 and life will be much easier. I have the 1050 ,650, and 550. 550 gets used the most. 650 sits on the floor in the corner.

I dont like the feel of the auto index or the priming system on the 650.

Case feeders and bullet feeders are great but I dont have to have them. I like a 550 plain and simple.

Kevin Rohrer
01-04-2021, 09:12 AM
Can you still buy a 650? I don't see it on the website.

They were on their site, but have since disappeared. You can still buy them on Ebay and probably other sites.

jmorris
01-04-2021, 09:31 PM
I really hate the 650. I get a lot of angry replies. The rotary priming system is the worst I have ever used. Get a 550 and life will be much easier. I have the 1050 ,650, and 550. 550 gets used the most. 650 sits on the floor in the corner.

I dont like the feel of the auto index or the priming system on the 650.

Case feeders and bullet feeders are great but I dont have to have them. I like a 550 plain and simple.

I’ll trade you a 550 for the 650.

M-Tecs
01-04-2021, 11:47 PM
I really hate the 650. I get a lot of angry replies. The rotary priming system is the worst I have ever used. Get a 550 and life will be much easier. I have the 1050 ,650, and 550. 550 gets used the most. 650 sits on the floor in the corner.

I dont like the feel of the auto index or the priming system on the 650.

Case feeders and bullet feeders are great but I dont have to have them. I like a 550 plain and simple.

Each too their own. Started with a 450 and upgraded to a 550 when they came out. Later got a second 550 so I didn't have to switch from large to small primers. Soon as the 650 came out purchased one. I now have three (one for large primer, one for small primer and one dedicated to 45/70). I also have two Super 1050's and a RL1000. While I liked the 450 and the 550's I am glad I sold them and I don't miss them in the least. I really like my 650's and I love my 1050's except I wish 1050's had the 650 primer system.



Only thing I know about the 750's is what I have read but the change to the 550 primer system leaves me cold.

David2011
01-05-2021, 03:12 AM
The rotary primer feed system with the brass tipped feed tube is the most reliable system I have used on any press. The 750 uses the same plastic tipped reciprocal system that the 550 uses. The main complaint with the 650 system is that it ALWAYS feeds primers. Only a problem if your not wanting to seat primers every time you cycle the machine.

Have to agree 100%. I had some oddball problem with mine a few years ago. Don’t remember what it was now but you pointed out the solution. It was in the manual if I had just bothered to re-read it. I love the 650 for its ability to crank out large volumes of quality ammunition at low effort in short order. Whatever was wrong, it’s been flawless again ever since.

jmorris
01-05-2021, 10:39 AM
I had some oddball problem with mine a few years ago. Don’t remember what it was now but you pointed out the solution. It was in the manual if I had just bothered to re-read it.


Sounds like the station #2 locator, you’d be surprised how many 650 owners don’t know it’s adjusted with an Allen wrench and should be adjusted for different diameter cases.

Thread generally goes, “Everything was working great and I converted from “A” to “B” and this priming system sucks....” then send them to page 39 fig. 194 of the manual. https://dilloncdn.com/manuals/dillon-xl650-manual-english.pdf

And that’s he end of the thread.

beeser
01-05-2021, 10:54 AM
I thought of replacing my 650 with the newer 750 but after taking a close look at the differences decided against it. My 650 has worked almost flawlessly loading 32 ACP, 32 S&W Long, 38 Special, 9mm and 45 ACP. I didn't see anything in the 750 that would improve the process. I was told by my dealer that unless I planned to use Federal primers not to bother changing. That being said I wouldn't mind changing over to the Mark7. Looks to be a nice machine.

LabGuy
01-05-2021, 10:30 PM
The 750 is not an upgrade from the 650, its a slightly better newer replacement. Sort of like trading my 2013 Toyota van for a 2021 Toyota van. If you want an upgrade look for the numbers 1050 or 1100.

nhyrum
01-05-2021, 10:51 PM
The 750 is not an upgrade from the 650, its a slightly better newer replacement. Sort of like trading my 2013 Toyota van for a 2021 Toyota van. If you want an upgrade look for the numbers 1050 or 1100.I mean... A 2013 toyota van to a 2021 toyota van IS an upgrade. Not a "step up" but an upgrade, I think so.

Doesn't mean the newer model is all around better in every way.

It's like the 550 models. The 750 is basically just a 650b

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