1894 winchester - feeding issue

[jooe]

Any tips on what to look for on a 1894 winchester lever (30-30) - while feeding as one finds its way up on the carrier, the next round in the tube releases and finds its way below the carrier. recommended new parts or suggestions? Thanks in advance.

[Bazoo]

There is a cartridge stop on the lower plate, at the magazine tube entrance. It's a little nub. Could be it's worn some. In not familiar with double feeds in the model enough to say it's likely x. However, if that cartridge stop is worn, having it tig welded or a new bottom plate is in order. If it's not bad, could be some judicious peening would add just enough height to make an expedient repair.

[Hick]

There is a cartridge stop on the lower plate, at the magazine tube entrance. It's a little nub. Could be it's worn some. In not familiar with double feeds in the model enough to say it's likely x. However, if that cartridge stop is worn, having it tig welded or a new bottom plate is in order. If it's not bad, could be some judicious peening would add just enough height to make an expedient repair.

That is indeed the most likely cause. Much less likely-- but possible (theoretically at least) is too much wear of the pin that holds the bottom plate, so that the plate drops down a little. Very unlikely but possible.

[jooe]

That is indeed the most likely cause. Much less likely-- but possible (theoretically at least) is too much wear of the pin that holds the bottom plate, so that the plate drops down a little. Very unlikely but possible.


Thanks Guys. Will take a closer look and see. what a fella would do for a drawing ....oh my.

[Shawlerbrook]

Also remember that leverguns are made to be cycled with authority. I have seen many a jam when someone was trying to softly eject a shell.

[pietro]

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(below: left = damaged stop lug; right = welded/repaired lug)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fi3crx-lEyk/THf9SgxqVCI/AAAAAAAAAT8/XjOhAwJd6P8/s1600/undercarrier4.jpg


Alternately, the forward end of the lower link is easily dropped down far enough to work on via simply removing the forward pivot pin.

If the lug is held horizontally on a small steel block, the other side of the lug can be (slightly) hammer swadged so that it becomes a tad longer.

It's best to swadge it a bit too long to let a cartridge out of the magazine tube, then dress down the extra length, 0.001" at a time until a cartridge gets released.


A new lower link is not always the solution ( BT, DT - NTS [smilie=b: ) - and it will not keep the4 gun "original".

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[jooe]

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(below: left = damaged stop lug; right = welded/repaired lug)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fi3crx-lEyk/THf9SgxqVCI/AAAAAAAAAT8/XjOhAwJd6P8/s1600/undercarrier4.jpg


Alternately, the forward end of the lower link is easily dropped down far enough to work on via simply removing the forward pivot pin.

If the lug is held horizontally on a small steel block, the other side of the lug can be (slightly) hammer swadged so that it becomes a tad longer.

It's best to swadge it a bit too long to let a cartridge out of the magazine tube, then dress down the extra length, 0.001" at a time until a cartridge gets released.


A new lower link is not always the solution ( BT, DT - NTS [smilie=b: ) - and it will not keep the4 gun "original".

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thanks again! pictures sure help. The change from left to right sure seems large!