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richhodg66
12-20-2020, 10:25 AM
Had a guy on a different page tell me single shot shotguns are illegal for waterfowl hunting in Canada and told me the reason was too many poor shooters were crippling birds and unable to make second shots to finish them off. He was adamant that this was the case. Is this true?

I'm pretty simplistic, but the idea that poor shooters are a problem, so let's make sure they have more shots available to make more crippled birds sounds crazy even for a socialist country.

centershot
12-20-2020, 12:12 PM
That does sound crazy! How long can it take to reload a sinle-shot shotgun, maybe 10 seconds, if that long?

richhodg66
12-20-2020, 12:32 PM
That does sound crazy! How long can it take to reload a sinle-shot shotgun, maybe 10 seconds, if that long?

I think the guy was full of BS, I can't imagine a law that stupid. And you're correct, they are surprisingly fast to reload, even if you're not practiced at it.

Minerat
12-20-2020, 12:48 PM
I always kept 2 extra shell between my fingers of the left hand. Made reloading faster and didn't interfere with the shooting. Any one check the regs?

brass410
12-20-2020, 02:12 PM
no restrictions that I know of, except steel is a must for shot ,no more than 3 rounds total (plug those extended mags boys). Take the cormorants first LOL

Powersgt
12-21-2020, 04:25 PM
I would have thought this as BS too but then I heard on a outdoor pod cast that you can't return a fish to the water in Europe (Maybe England) because its considered cruel to fish for sport so you get a tag and you must keep everything you land; curtesy of their Green Party. I would believe anything out of enlightened social countries.

richhodg66
12-21-2020, 05:33 PM
Someone posted today that it's legal to shoot Canada geese in Canada with a rifle as they are considered vermin, not sure about that one either, but could believe that more easily. EVery year we have more and more of them here, and I know snow gees really do have very few restrictions on how you hunt them.

bcp477
12-21-2020, 06:22 PM
I am not Canadian, nor an expert on their laws. Nor do I much care about Canadian laws and regulations regarding hunting, or anything else. But, to try to end the idle speculation here, I just spent a good bit of time reviewing the rather convoluted set of laws and regulations regarding firearms and hunting. The ONLY restrictions I can find in said laws, etc. is that firearms with barrels larger than 20mm in inside diameter, NOT including chokes, are now banned. Further, there are magazine capacity restrictions for bird hunting with shotguns (2 in the magazine). However, NO WHERE could I find anything that says single shot firearms of ANY type are banned for any purpose, including bird hunting, as long as they meet the other rules (which seem to be only the 20mm rule).

That is ALL I found. so, barring some specific additional regs only in force in certain provinces and not others...it seems that the claimed single-shot shotgun ban for waterfowl hunting is in fact, BS.

There, now perhaps the useless speculation (without anyone bothering to look it up)...can be put to rest.

ironbrew
12-21-2020, 07:46 PM
Canadian here. Never heard that one. As bcp477 pointed out we have some weird laws, including that 20mm one which is NOT quite decided as yet. It depends on where you read the law. I just didn't give a hoot and not worried about it. The police and fish and feathers seem to be of the same mindset. I'm much more worried about their idiotic semi auto partial ban (done on the basis of it looks evil so therefore...).

So, 2 in the mag, 1 in the chamber, steel shot only. And as far as I'm aware you may NOT shoot any migratory bird with a rifle (geese, ducks, whatever)

richhodg66
12-21-2020, 08:13 PM
I am not Canadian, nor an expert on their laws. Nor do I much care about Canadian laws and regulations regarding hunting, or anything else. But, to try to end the idle speculation here, I just spent a good bit of time reviewing the rather convoluted set of laws and regulations regarding firearms and hunting. The ONLY restrictions I can find in said laws, etc. is that firearms with barrels larger than 20mm in inside diameter, NOT including chokes, are now banned. Further, there are magazine capacity restrictions for bird hunting with shotguns (2 in the magazine). However, NO WHERE could I find anything that says single shot firearms of ANY type are banned for any purpose, including bird hunting, as long as they meet the other rules (which seem to be only the 20mm rule).

That is ALL I found. so, barring some specific additional regs only in force in certain provinces and not others...it seems that the claimed single-shot shotgun ban for waterfowl hunting is in fact, BS.

There, now perhaps the useless speculation (without anyone bothering to look it up)...can be put to rest.

That's pretty much what all the laws are here in the states. I kinda figured that guy was full of it.

Minerat
12-21-2020, 09:16 PM
Water fowl are covered by the migratory bird treaty signed by Canada the USA and Mexico. It sets shell limits, flyway limits for ducks and geese, season lengths etc. So there is consistency between the countries.

garandsrus
12-21-2020, 09:25 PM
There can be nuisance permits issued for geese. It wouldn’t surprise me if you could shoot the. With a rifle, but i have never looked into it. There is a member here that has taken nuisance geese in Ohio though. The only thing I remember from talking to him is that he had to leave them in the field as a deterrent to other geese, I guess.

centershot
12-22-2020, 11:39 AM
There can be nuisance permits issued for geese. It wouldn’t surprise me if you could shoot the. With a rifle, but i have never looked into it. There is a member here that has taken nuisance geese in Ohio though. The only thing I remember from talking to him is that he had to leave them in the field as a deterrent to other geese, I guess.

Good coyote bait!!

Hogtamer
12-23-2020, 12:20 PM
Good jerky!

Cap'n Morgan
12-23-2020, 05:46 PM
In Denmark we're only allowed two shots. I once read that among 'ethic' hunters, the second shot was only for correcting a poor hit from the first shot - not for trying for a double. I must confess I sometimes stray from this recommendable rule.

richhodg66
12-24-2020, 07:26 PM
In Denmark we're only allowed two shots. I once read that among 'ethic' hunters, the second shot was only for correcting a poor hit from the first shot - not for trying for a double. I must confess I sometimes stray from this recommendable rule.

Is that for waterfowl only or is it a general rule for all hunting?

Cap'n Morgan
12-26-2020, 04:39 AM
Is that for waterfowl only or is it a general rule for all hunting?

It is not a general rule per se, but more of a recommendation. To obtain a hunting license in Denmark you must pass a rather strict test. The test includes, among other things, distance judgement, where you must be able to tell if various cardboard cut-out of game species are within or outside the range for a safe shotgun kill. The longest "official" approved range is 30 meters (35 yards) for ducks and game birds of similar size.