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Keith357
12-09-2020, 04:00 PM
Does anybody here see any problem using the TL358-158-2R in a Rossi Lever Action tube.
(i don't know if this could set off a primer)

I want to load this bullet in 38 special using Trail Boss .

I will cast the bullet using pure lead and some 50/50 solder (20-1)



Thanks ,
Keith

onelight
12-09-2020, 04:53 PM
I would crimp in the top groove to prevent set back . But I don't think you will have a bullet to primmer problem with those loads .
Some of the folks with more lever experience may have a better educated response than mine.

Kraschenbirn
12-09-2020, 05:26 PM
I experimented with the Lee 158-148-1R, loaded into .38 Spl brass, in my Rossi '92 when I first got it. Rounds fed okay with no visible marks on primers of unfired rounds but accuracy kinda sucked. Already had a very satisfactory load using a 162 gr. RNFP so didn't bother taking load development any further.

Bill

TjB101
12-09-2020, 06:29 PM
I wouldn’t use that outside of single loading in a lever action. Great for revolver ... stick with the flat point rounds for your tube fed guns

Sam Sackett
12-09-2020, 06:48 PM
I am using the same bullet profile in 125 grain for cowboy shooting with my Rossi 92. Like you, I am using pure lead. I have not had any problems and that bullet feeds flawlessly. I only shoot light loads, so very little recoil.

With that said, you do this at your own risk. We all know that the rule of thumb is to use flat nosed bullets in tube magazines. I don't know how hot you are loading your ammo. Higher pressure rounds will raise recoil...... In the end, it's your willingness to take the risk.

Sam

gwpercle
12-09-2020, 07:01 PM
Technically RN's are supposed to be safe in a tubular magazine ... but I would opt for a
Lee 358-158-RF .. the flat just for safety and the nice crimp groove so the recoil and magazine spring tension doesn't force the boolit back into the case ... that can happen if not crimped well enough .
Feeding with the RF should be just fine .
Lee moulds aren't that expensive ... and to be honest the tumble lube design hasn't been the most accurate , especially when fired in a rifle .
Gary

mr surveyor
12-09-2020, 07:20 PM
I also have an R92 in .357 mag (as well as .44 mag), and I agree with Gary. The Lee 358-158 RF boolit is on the top shelf. Around 10-12 years ago I had (still have) a good friend that jumped into reloading as well as casting (I don't cast) and I bought him a 6 cav Lee 358-158 RF mold in exchange for an occasional batch of boolits. I shot hundreds of them in a Ruger SP-101, but when I traded for a lightly used Rossi R92 my love for that boolit escalated. Not being a caster myself I have to depend on his casting schedule (which is now greatly reduced) or commercial cast boolits (good luck finding them now if you're in a pinch). That particular Lee boolit, as I've read about in a many old reviews, is as good as they come. I've shot about a dozen different commercial projectiles in the .357 varieties, some occasionally a bit "better", but none more consistent that the Lee 358-158 RF.

jd

derek45
12-09-2020, 10:36 PM
the LEE 125gr is my favorite bullet for the Rossi 92

https://i.imgur.com/A9Nv5Rc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6wGfQdi.jpg

Walks
12-09-2020, 11:20 PM
Lee #358-158-RF over 3.5grs of Titegroup in a .38Spl case. Great for Rifle or Revolver.
My kids were shooting this load for 8-10 stages every month.

125's are for sissies

Keith357
12-10-2020, 12:56 AM
Thanks for everyone,s replies

This mold has been sitting in my garage for years doing nothing.
I have the 358-125rf (use it for 9mm) and the 358-158rf (use it for 357mag)
I,ll put the TL358-158r back on the shelf
and use one of the round flat nose molds for my 38 special

downzero
12-10-2020, 01:38 AM
the LEE 125gr is my favorite bullet for the Rossi 92

https://i.imgur.com/A9Nv5Rc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6wGfQdi.jpg

That's what I'm using, along with the 105 SWC. Still not sure which one I like best yet.

onelight
12-10-2020, 09:34 AM
If you want to do a little test prime a case and hold it in a vice put on some gloves and eye protection and see if you can set off the primer with a bullet and a hammer. 30/30 and 35 Remington jacketed rn come with bullets with similar round ends , a soft lead tip is a long ways from a jacketed spizer.

Froogal
12-10-2020, 09:57 AM
Does anybody here see any problem using the TL358-158-2R in a Rossi Lever Action tube.
(i don't know if this could set off a primer)

I want to load this bullet in 38 special using Trail Boss .

I will cast the bullet using pure lead and some 50/50 solder (20-1)



Thanks ,
Keith

I cast that very bullet using Roto-metals 1-20. Loaded over 4 grains of Trail Boss. Wife shoots these .38s in her Rossi 92, and Cimarron SAA. Never a problem in either gun. I seat the bullet for an OAL of 1.500", and use the Lee factory crimp die.

mdi
12-10-2020, 12:27 PM
If you want to do a little test prime a case and hold it in a vice put on some gloves and eye protection and see if you can set off the primer with a bullet and a hammer. 30/30 and 35 Remington jacketed rn come with bullets with similar round ends , a soft lead tip is a long ways from a jacketed spizer.
I was thinking along the same lines. While bottle necked, current Winchester and Remington 30-30 RN ammo uses bullets slightly more "pointy"...

oley55
12-10-2020, 01:11 PM
Not intending to be flippant, but hasn't the world been shooting those round nosed bullets in tube fed, centerfire lever guns for nearly 130 years?

PAndy
12-10-2020, 05:15 PM
I grew up shooting a Marlin 30-30 with Remington factory ammo, and never saw any flat pointed bullets. (unless I dropped one and bumped the nose)

Froogal
12-10-2020, 06:10 PM
Not intending to be flippant, but hasn't the world been shooting those round nosed bullets in tube fed, centerfire lever guns for nearly 130 years?

BINGO!!! It is NOT a problem.

oley55
12-10-2020, 07:28 PM
Not intending to be flippant, but hasn't the world been shooting those round nosed bullets in tube fed, centerfire lever guns for nearly 130 years?

After reading this active thread (and linked directions) about remanufacturing primers with cap-gun caps, perhaps a flat point would be best for those.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?410816-Reloading-primers-with-toy-caps-results