Lee 105 SWC in a 9mm

[marshhawk]

I'm looking for some bullet options for my 9, has anyone sized a Lee 105 SWC to 356 to shoot in a 9mm, I would think that about 3.0 Bullseye would work.

Thanks, Marshhawk

[Jal5]

I cannot get that one to feed successfully in my S&W shield or the beretta 92

[downzero]

I sized them to .356 and they'll feed if they are seated to where the bearing area barely is above the brass. You need a LOT of powder to get them to cycle though, even in the guns they'd feed in, they wouldn't cycle the gun a lot of the time. I'm going to crank up the powder and try them again sometime.

By "a lot," I mean that I plan to work up to 20% more powder than I'm using for 147 grains, from 3.4 to probably 4.2 grains of the same powder.

[harm]

I would start looking at charges listed for 115 grain boolits if nothing is shown for the 105 (or whatever is closest to the actual weight as-cast). Size them appropriately for the barrels they'll be used in, seat them where they'll plunk test properly. If I remember, the mold was advertised by Lee as working in the 9mm as well as 38/357.

[John McCorkle]

Seems like I've heard of alot of folks using that mold. I haven't used it and I imagine you would need to load fairly medium to stiff loads depending on your gun/recoil spring

Let us know how it goes for you

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[Finster101]

There is a lot of info on this forum for this boolit. It works well in 9mm when seated correctly. I powder coat and use 4grs of Promo or Red Dot. I size to 357.

[Rattlesnake Charlie]

Get their 120 gr TC. Feeds way better and cycles action easier.

[John McCorkle]

Get their 120 gr TC. Feeds way better and cycles action easier.Yes, this boolit is my go to...works like a champ...make em by the thousands

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[Lloyd Smale]

my shields and my full sized M&P run like crap with it. My 43 and my 19s run but i get a hickup every couple mags. Not what id want to trust my life too but then that bullet isnt what id choose for that anyway. Odd thing is my wifes lc9 runs it like butter even at pop gun levels. good bullet for her. Recoil isnt much more then a 22.

[Jniedbalski]

I use 4 gr of bulseye. It works good in my nines but leave as cast because my nines are all European and like .358/..359

[gwpercle]

Sized to .357 , have shot it in 4 different 9mm Luger pistols .
Like any cast boolit in the 9mm ... seating depth is critical for feeding .
Had to experiment ... every one liked something different . Newer and smaller 9mm's have little or no throat ...seating depth must be tried and tested .
WWII Walther P-38 has a generous throat and loves this little boolit ... it shoots to the pistols sights with no adjustments . P-38's technically are adjustable ... but requires replacing the front sight for elevation and disassembly to push the rear with a special sight pushing tool .

The boolits short length lets you deep seat it and still have plenty room in the case for powder .
The little Lee boolit is also good for light recoiling loads , easy on pistol and shooter and conserves bullet metal .
Gary

[RKJ]

It works like a charm in my FN. Hipower sized at 356.

[Lloyd Smale]

I size it to 357 for all my 9s.

[Alstep]

No way could I get the Lee 105 swc to function in my CZ 75, and it thing eats anything but that one.
Settled on the Lyman 358242 & Arsenal 360-138 Max. Never had a jam with either one.

[gwpercle]

My Walther P-38 Preferred Load:
9mm Luger
Lee 358-105-SWC , 50-50 COWW and scrap lead, air cooled,
sized .357 , Lithi-Bee lube.

4.7 grains Unique - this is my light " target" load for the old P-38 , shoots to it's open iron sights.
This load will put 15 shots into one ragged hole that spans 1 1/2 inches ! It don't get no better than that for me .

For newer pistols I up the charge to
5.0 grs. Unique - to ensure proper functioning in newer pistols .

Gary

[Jal5]

I may need to experiment more with it!

[Old School Big Bore]

I'm shooting it in two XD9s, a P-11 and an AR9. Sized to.358, seated to the crimp groove and taper crimped, it's plunking in all the chambers and runs in all the guns. I use it over Sport Pistol, Power Pistol, Silhouette or TiteGroup. The attraction for me is that it's economical with my Galena.
I'll be testing it in a couple of .380 ACP as well. Speaking of .380 designs, the Lee 95 gr RF works well in 9mm too.
Ed <><

[Finster101]

The crimp groove doesn't work for me. I seat it deep where there is just barely any shoulder above the case. It runs in two XDs, two Smiths and a Hi-Point carbine with no hiccups. It works well you just have to get the seating correct.

[Old School Big Bore]

Finster, what are you sizing it to? If I size it to .356, the grooves are almost gone. I use it at .358 bcz I already knew all these 9s liked .358 with the 356402 and the Lee 120 TC. My son's suppressed Skorpion also likes .358 with all the 150-180 heavyweight subsonics we put through it.

[Finster101]

I size to .357 but I have been known to powder coat and shoot as cast with no ill effects.

[Texas by God]

I've shot it as cast in two Shield 9s, a Beretta 92, a Hi-point C9 and a Ruger P95. Just a sliver of shoulder above the neck, and seated over 4.8 grs of Bullseye. It stuttered a bit in the P95 at first, then ran fine. The others ate it fine. I like it a lot in the Shield for a carry around the farm load. The exact same load is good in the .38 Special, too.

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[Beerd]

here's a picture next to its big brother

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[Finster101]

Beerd, that looks the way I load them as well. Both of them.

[marshhawk]

Thanks for all your input!
Marshhawk

[Jal5]

I think if I adjust the OAL it should work for me too. Those pics really helped too. Thx


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[flyingmonkey35]

I just got this one in a whim a. Few weeks ago.

So far I've used it 9mm and .380

9mm lubed and sizes to .356 over 4 grains of cbi powder.

It cycles and shoots great out of a Ruger and a hipoint carbine.

The .380 is bullseye powedr out a Ruger lcp

No issues.

Fun bullets.

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[Bashby]

I tried to get that boolit to work in my P80 and they would not feed at all. I have a different barrel now so I should try again. Had one person suggest a wadcutter magazine, but it looks like that’s a 1911 thing. I thought about modifying a magazine but I’d hate to ruin one.

[Bashby]

Made up some dummy rounds and they actually seem to feed!

[gwpercle]

here's a picture next to its big brother

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Picture's worth a thousand words !
This is how deep they must be seated in 9mm and 45 acp to work .
The 9mm Luger for sure ... :goodpost:
Gary

[Beerd]

Picture's worth a thousand words !
This is how deep they must be seated in 9mm and 45 acp to work .
The 9mm Luger for sure ... :goodpost:
Gary

thank you
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[Cosmic_Charlie]

If you have your 9mm barrel throated it makes it easier to use this boolit. Had Doug Guy here on the forum do my CZ 75 barrel recently. It allowed me to seat the boolit out past the crimp groove. AOL is 1.100" and it feeds slick. I used 4 grains of VV N310 and got 1200 fps and good, practical service pistol accuracy. Strong ejection and positive lock back. Very light recoil as well. No pressure signs. I'm using an NOE .358 x .355 auto pistol expander plug and this makes for nice even seating without any bulges. Also Dillon seating and seperate crimp dies.

This powder however is very fast burning and will not tolerate mistakes or absent mindedness. If your measure won't throw within a tenth of a grain with it don't use it. Titegroup, HP 38 or Bullseye will work just fine with this boolit. And given the current scarcity of reloading supplies you may have to use what you have.

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[Vegas Vince]

I have 4- 9 MM, XD, Glock, Beretta, & Ruger. They feed the 105 gr. boolet fine. I gave a hand full of boolets to a friend & his M&P feed poorly. Then he tried the 102 gr. they feed fine but some would key hole. Other friend have Kimber, CZ & M&P. They all have feeding problems with the 105 boolets & some other cast boolets. I think the ramp is different. Not sure??!!

[Bashby]

If you have your 9mm barrel throated it makes it easier to use this boolit. Had Doug Guy here on the forum do my CZ 75 barrel recently. It allowed me to seat the boolit out past the crimp groove. AOL is 1.100" and it feeds slick. I used 4 grains of VV N310 and got 1200 fps and good, practical service pistol accuracy. Strong ejection and positive lock back. Very light recoil as well. No pressure signs. I'm using an NOE .358 x .355 auto pistol expander plug and this makes for nice even seating without any bulges. Also Dillon seating and seperate crimp dies.

This powder however is very fast burning and will not tolerate mistakes or absent mindedness. If your measure won't throw within a tenth of a grain with it don't use it. Titegroup, HP 38 or Bullseye will work just fine with this boolit. And given the current scarcity of reloading supplies you may have to use what you have.

273708I made up a dummy round about the length you are doing them and it will chamber in my Lone wolf Glock barrel. Seems like it will feed better. Loaded 20 over 4gr Unique to try.

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[marshhawk]

Thanks again to all, I had a batch of the lee 105s sized and lubed to .358, I took 10 and ran them thru my lee sizer to .357, my start load is 4.3 Titegroup and the seating depth I'm starting with is .990.5, now off to the range to see if they cycle!
Marshhawk

[marshhawk]

Thanks again to all, I had a batch of the lee 105s sized and lubed to .358, I took 10 and ran them thru my lee sizer to .357, my start load is 4.3 Titegroup and the seating depth I'm starting with is .990.5, now off to the range to see if they cycle!
Marshhawk

[Cosmic_Charlie]

I made up a dummy round about the length you are doing them and it will chamber in my Lone wolf Glock barrel. Seems like it will feed better. Loaded 20 over 4gr Unique to try.

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It feeds good in my M&P too.