Seems like everything is out of stock

[abunaitoo]

Was looking to order some stuff, but everything is out of stock.
Not looking to order primers or powder, but reloading tools.
Is it that people are buying everything out, or factories are just not making anything????
I blame the chinese virus and the damacrats.

[rbuck351]

I think there has been a run on everything gun related with folks that weren't gun owners buying guns. Also, a lot of folks that used to just shoot factory ammo have figured out they aren't going to shoot a lot without reloading. Folks have simply vastly over run supply. And yeah, I'm sure the china virus and the commiecrats have had a good deal to do with the problem.

I lot of people have been learned that the police can't protect them even if their governors and mayors would allow the police to do their job. Many people realize they need to protect their family and their self.

I guess I'm lucky as I went through a primer shortage in the 70s and vowed not to let anything keep me from shooting as much as I want.

Put an add on the swap and sell. Many folks here have extra stuff. What do you need? maybe I can help.

[dkonrai]

Have you seen the prices of dies lately?

Sent from my A7 Pro using Tapatalk

[Brass&Lead]

What specifically were you trying to find?

[Lloyd Smale]

try a wanted to buy add in the classifieds here.

[Teddy (punchie)]

Let me know what your looking for maybe able to help you out. You sent me some books if I recall:-P.

Yep things are gone. Going to be awhile, I'm in fair shape also more into trading Of items.

[StuBach]

Yeah, we have the next greatest gun salesman as president elect. Covid fears early in the year followed by civil unrest and now a president who admittedly voted for heavy handed gun control. Recipe for gun buying panic.

I was amazed at how slim the supply was back in June when I was picking up my newest addition (special order Ruger Mark IV) and Cabelas shelves were mostly bare than despite limiting to one box per caliber. Since then I’ve seen a ton of non-shooters tell me they just bought their first gun and ask “now what” and “do you know where I can find ammo?”. It’s crazy how much of a scare is going on.

Best advise: wait it out and when things normalize you can get what you need at reasonable prices again in a year or so. If you have to do it now you’ll pay a premium.

[Land Owner]

You "think" shortage propels sales. Not across all reloading interests. For some calibers there must be no shortage, even at 15% BELOW retail. I have offered to sell several Mfg's 30 cal. bullets (that I won't use but am not giving away), ad is probably gone from CB Classifieds now (30-day max. to deletion), that are 15% BELOW current retail - no bites. At least they don't "go bad" just sitting in their boxes. Will test the water again later.

[Bull-Moose]

Recent political and global events have caused a run on everything gun and ammo related. Most everything has been sold out for months.

[Uncle R.]

It's not just gun and ammo related shortages.
There are recurring spot shortages in the grocery stores too, and not just toilet paper.
Demand is up for lots of things.

Some people never look ahead, and will be surprised by every setback.
Some people try to use foresight, consider the events going on around them, and plan for the future.
Their expectations will not always come to pass, but even so they're more likely to be prepared for the problems that arise.

With an ever-larger segment of our population clamoring for more restrictions on our freedoms, many citizens and politicians openly calling for socialism, and many of the people in power apparently willing to destroy the economy if it will increase their control, you don't need much of a crystal ball to see troubled times heading our way. As people try to prepare for the future those spot shortages we're still seeing are likely to increase in frequency and duration.

It strikes me that at times like these a wise man would want his shelves well stocked, with special emphasis on the things most likely to be important if TSHTF. Judge accordingly.

Primers and ammunition may currently be almost unobtanium, but there are other things available right now, for fair prices, that you might wish you had more of in the future. Instead of complaining about the shortages of today, look to the future and prepare as best you can. Things may quite possibly get worse before they get better.

Uncle R.

[rbuck351]

+1 for Uncle R

[farmbif]

last shortage lee 9mm and 223 die sets were bringing $150 on eBay with no problem.
this shortage seems deeper and wider. one indicator for me is the price of box of 50 22's is up tp $24.99 on some online sellers.
I guess we can be grateful that its guns and ammo and not gasoline that is scarce and 10x normal price

[dverna]

It's not just gun and ammo related shortages.
There are recurring spot shortages in the grocery stores too, and not just toilet paper.
Demand is up for lots of things.

Some people never look ahead, and will be surprised by every setback.
Some people try to use foresight, consider the events going on around them, and plan for the future.
Their expectations will not always come to pass, but even so they're more likely to be prepared for the problems that arise.

With an ever-larger segment of our population clamoring for more restrictions on our freedoms, many citizens and politicians openly calling for socialism, and many of the people in power apparently willing to destroy the economy if it will increase their control, you don't need much of a crystal ball to see troubled times heading our way. As people try to prepare for the future those spot shortages we're still seeing are likely to increase in frequency and duration.

It strikes me that at times like these a wise man would want his shelves well stocked, with special emphasis on the things most likely to be important if TSHTF. Judge accordingly.

Primers and ammunition may currently be almost unobtanium, but there are other things available right now, for fair prices, that you might wish you had more of in the future. Instead of complaining about the shortages of today, look to the future and prepare as best you can. Things may quite possibly get worse before they get better.

Uncle R.

One of the best posts in a long time.

Just want to add that from what I have seen, people who were raised poor seem better prepared than those from families who always had new vehicles, dined out a lot and took expensive vacations.

[thxmrgarand]

Very thoughtful and cogent comment Mr. Verna. Shooting related items are a special case. For example, if the GA Senate races go against shooters next month we will likely see black markets come for ammunition, components and at least some firearms during 2021. If so we might look back upon current prices and wish we had purchased more!

However, for commodities (consumables) that are not being targeted by the very people who are relocating to Washington, DC at the moment I think it's possible that one phenomenon not widely recognized is that our ratio of American consumers to American producers has shifted markedly during the past couple decades. More people work for government, more people live on transfer payments, and fewer Americans work at producing food, paper, energy, and the goods we commonly wear out every day as we go about our lives. My own state, for the most recent (almost) 50 years of my life, is possibly the most extreme example. I would bet that over 90 percent of health care is paid by government in this state, and incidentally I think that is why some therapies cost as much as 70 percent more than the same therapy costs in the nearest other state. I would guess that over half of all food in this state is bought by government. Some material percentage of housing is paid by government.

More and more we are becoming a nation of people who consume but don't produce. Part of it is demographic, with my generation now retiring in droves. Part of it is of course that we have become dependent upon Red China and other countries for manufactured goods. Therefore, in my view we should expect to see supply interruptions, very possibly periods of inflation manifested in a variety of ways, and other dislocations. That is my view anyway.

[GOPHER SLAYER]

You "think" shortage propels sales. Not across all reloading interests. For some calibers there must be no shortage, even at 15% BELOW retail. I have offered to sell several Mfg's 30 cal. bullets (that I won't use but am not giving away), ad is probably gone from CB Classifieds now (30-day max. to deletion), that are 15% BELOW current retail - no bites. At least they don't "go bad" just sitting in their boxes. Will test the water again later.
I agree. I read of people complaining about the high cost of dies but if you put a set on SxS you are lucky to get $30. You then have to contend with the high cost of shipping.

[Hickok]

Boolit moulds can be difficult to find too.

I finally found an RCBS 45-300-FN after much looking, for a fair price. Some dealers wanted nearly twice the retail, but I kept searching and found a reasonable price. Mostly found, "Out of Stock."

[gbrown]

I don't need anything, but I look around at the market for reloading supplies when bored and nothing is on TV I find interesting. Just browsing around, seems like all our supplies are really down. Know there are a lot of new gun owners, not sure how many new reloaders there are, or hoarders out there. I started reloading/casting a long time ago, got out for about 10-15 years, and then got back in. I always kept a good supply of everything. I have some old powder, but still performs well according to the chrono. Have lucked onto some unbelievable bargains from time to time. Casting? Got enough to last me a while, not a short while. You have to think outside the box, not dwell in the present. What If? I've said several times, its a mindset. For those of us raised by Depression Era parents, waste not, want not, and, not what it's made for, but what could you do with that? Thought about selling some of my excess, but think I will hold on to it, seeing this stuff going on now. I always sell for a reasonable price, not about to be one of the ones taking advantage of the current situation.

[Ed K]

Primers and ammunition may currently be almost unobtanium, but there are other things available right now, for fair prices, that you might wish you had more of in the future. Instead of complaining about the shortages of today, look to the future and prepare as best you can. Things may quite possibly get worse before they get better.

For example LGS has stripped AR lowers at pre-panic prices. Maybe no better example of something that may go through the roof sometime soon.

[chambers]

Was at a larger gun store/reloading store. Asked my favorite long term employee about primers/ammo/etc. Said as of this morning there are no primers to be had for reloaders as all ammo companies were buying up everything and leaving nothing to reloaders, said there was powder in store but thought due to lack of primers people weren't buying powder, ammo is hard to find to replenish their shelves but had large order ready to come in? Sort of hit and miss. Was able to buy Winchester Colt brass from large hardware chain but not a box of rifle or pistol ammo on shelves. Have to keep looking.

[abunaitoo]

I'm not really in need of anything.
I was looking for a 8mm bullet puller collet.
RCBS or Fosters.
I found one , but didn't want to just order that.
Was looking to see if I could find anything else on my want list.
Everything else was out of stock.
I reload for old stuff, so I would have thought it would be available.
Unlike more common tools.

[Brass&Lead]

When you find an item in stock that you need fill your order with consumables / tools / scopes / etc. to spread the cost of shipping. It is better to have and not need than need and not have. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.

[Shawlerbrook]

Besides all the great explanations above, I think the manufacturers have temporarily stopped production of certain items to concentrate on items more in demand. Thank God I stocked my reloading room following the Biy Scout motto.

[farmbif]

I was just looking through mid south web site, 99.8% of all powder sold out