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Newtire
11-30-2020, 12:45 AM
I just got one of the Svarog .410 moulds last week. Casts a nice looking .408” slug (looks like a Diablo air rifle pellet). Works real lickety-split. Well made and fast casting is an understatement. I ordered it direct from Russia. Took a little getting familiar with navigating the ordering of it but once I got it ordered, took 3-weeks to get here. The slug fits right inside of a plastic .410 case. Fired some out of my old CVA Cheapo little twice barreled .410 muzzleloader. They were a thumb pressure only fit and hit nose first in one piece loaded directly over 30 gr. 2f. I’ll have to try some out of a .410 breech loader next. I didn’t have much in the way of high expectations since I cast them out of some wheel weight metal but they didn’t shatter on firing-just one clean hole. Anyhow, I had good success with that mould. Lots cheaper buying direct than by going thru flea bay too, even with shipping. I have a 20 gauge and a 12 coming!

cwlongshot
11-30-2020, 07:59 AM
GOOD NEWS!!

I have beennon the fence and I'm teetering. Andy on here gratiously sent me some of these 410 slugs to try and I like them but have t fired yet.


I have wanted the 12 ga for a while too.

CW

Outpost75
11-30-2020, 12:36 PM
What sort of grouping do you get in the shotgun?

What choke does the barrel have?

Pictures please!

I've been contemplating having Tom at Accurate molds make an air rifle style slug for me to fit my .410. I'm not convinced that the hollow skirt is needed, and do have concerns that the hollow base may be deformed by wad impact upon discharge, distorting the base and degrading accuracy. A solid-based slug would permit multiple-cavity molds inexpensively.

I've been unable to find round ball molds in .410, .415 or .420 diameter. Common sizes jump from .395 to .433... I'm teetering heavily towards Tom making a .410 wasp-waist slug .430" long, with .3" meplat, .415" diameter front band (same as barrel muzzle) 0.06 wide and .425" base flange diameter (same as barrel bore diameter ahead of chamber) with tolerance centered, which is a correct fit for my gun and my buddy's similar 36 ga. (sic) Garden gun in Italy.

When I get confirmation from Tom and a finalized drawing I will post it so others can experiment. Anyone else ordering should confirm their barrel dimensions and tweak diameters as needed.

Newtire
11-30-2020, 04:28 PM
I've only shot it a few times at 25 yards but the shots are inside of 3" between both barrels. One barrel only, 2" so far. It's got only a bead front. Real test would be in a single barrel. I've got a couple of. 410's but they are full choke. When my 20 ga. Comes in, I can try it in an 1100 Remington smoothbore slug barrel with sights.

Outpost75
11-30-2020, 04:55 PM
I've only shot it a few times at 25 yards but the shots are inside of 3" between both barrels. One barrel only, 2" so far. It's got only a bead front. Real test would be in a single barrel. I've got a couple of. 410's but they are full choke. When my 20 ga. Comes in, I can try it in an 1100 Remington smoothbore slug barrel with sights.

That sounds pretty good to me! Thanks.

Tazza
12-02-2020, 07:51 PM
A mad mate got one for his 12g for me to cast for him, they look like air rifle pellets but on steroids, they group like you wouldn't believe. The lee ones wouldn't group at 20 metres, or even find the paper. The russian mould was putting each shot on a 500 x 300mm metal plate at 50m out of an adler lever action.

I don't know what makes them so accurate, but they did a great job designing it.

cwlongshot
12-02-2020, 08:17 PM
I just made up some test projectiles. Hot glue gun, stump wad and a 145LEE cast bullet upside down glued together.

Testing soon

CW

turtlezx
12-02-2020, 08:54 PM
OUTPOST75 think you would need the hollow base need to be nose heavy to keep from tumbling

UNLESS your going thru rifling

Outpost75
12-02-2020, 10:26 PM
OUTPOST75 think you would need the hollow base need to be nose heavy to keep from tumbling

UNLESS your going thru rifling

Negative. Conical trailing section makes the projectile form stable because drag increases on exposed edge which deviates from central axis, so that projectile is self-righting like a badminton shuttlecock.

Basic aerodynamics. Limiting ratio of projectile length to diameter maintains center of gravity close to center of pressure and reduces overturning moment.

cwlongshot
12-03-2020, 07:06 PM
I made up a video on these projectile thoughts. I mentioned above.

https://youtu.be/Yy0Kt8n6RC4

Newtire
12-03-2020, 07:32 PM
The slug mould from Svarog is under $60.00 with shipping. The guys on Fleabay need to make a profit so they hike the prices up. Going directly thru Svarog saves you money but takes 2-3 weeks.

cwlongshot
12-03-2020, 07:34 PM
WOW really??!?!!???

Got a linky?

CW

Newtire
12-03-2020, 07:45 PM
WOW really??!?!!???

Got a linky?

CW

https://en.svaroghunt.ru

cwlongshot
12-03-2020, 08:10 PM
Thank you!!

(Everything out of stock!!).

CW

Newtire
12-03-2020, 09:50 PM
Sorry, I got 2 molds just 2 days ago. I guess the word is out!

AndyC
12-07-2020, 01:09 PM
I found this thread by accident - I have one of these and did my first experiments this past Saturday:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?413701-Russian-108-gr-410-slug-test

Not great results so far accuracy-wise but I was more focused on trying to find a safe load first.