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AndyC
11-26-2020, 10:56 PM
https://i.imgur.com/8UmhFFJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vfZsMSR.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNK-iTwdbKc

rickiesrevenge
11-26-2020, 11:09 PM
Didn't know they were making new ones

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nicholst55
11-26-2020, 11:30 PM
Cool! I'll be interested to see reviews.

AndyC
11-26-2020, 11:33 PM
I hope to have mine soon - I'll review it then.

MUSTANG
11-26-2020, 11:47 PM
Back in 1970's there was a Gun store in Oceanside California had a dual set .357 & .44 Auto Mag for sale at $1800.00 in their window. Drool would run down the side of many a young Marines mouth looking at those "Purty Guns". Course, only made about $3000.00 a year before taxes back then.


Would be a fun gun to have; but I got too many toys that are being ignored for now.

Texas by God
11-27-2020, 08:29 AM
They certainly look better than a Desert Eagle or a Wildey. Hopefully they are of good quality.

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JSnover
11-27-2020, 08:53 AM
And I almost convinced myself I had enough guns...

MrWolf
11-27-2020, 09:38 AM
And I almost convinced myself I had enough guns...

Bite your tongue!

MUSTANG
11-27-2020, 10:06 AM
Anyone remember "Mack Bolan - The Executioner"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Bolan

The book Character used the AutoMag.

375supermag
11-27-2020, 10:11 AM
Anyone remember "Mack Bolan - The Executioner"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Bolan

The book Character used the AutoMag.

Hi...
I read a few of those books back in the early '70s.
Ex Vietnam vet that went on a personal war against the Mafia.

leadeye
11-27-2020, 11:09 AM
I'll be curious to see how they do shooting. Too bad Kent Lomont isn't still here, that's a man who could do an Automag review!

They were, and still are one of the best looking large semi autos.

Drm50
11-27-2020, 11:35 AM
Back about 1972 I had gotten a nice 16g Parker SxS on a trade. A gun shop wanted that gun bad. I do believe he had a guy lined up to buy it. He told me he would buy it cash or would do me much better if I took trades. Well He had some sleepers not selling. I ended up with 2 new 44 Auto Mags and 2 green Colt ARs and some cash. I don’t remember price of Auto Mags but wasn’t unreasonable a new 1911 Colt was $100 at the time.

stubshaft
11-27-2020, 03:25 PM
Waiting for the review. Who is making the ammo?

smithnframe
11-27-2020, 03:32 PM
What are they selling for?

Don Purcell
11-27-2020, 06:31 PM
I'll be curious to see how they do shooting. Too bad Kent Lomont isn't still here, that's a man who could do an Automag review!

They were, and still are one of the best looking large semi autos.
Totally agree about Kent. I have all the Gun Digest and Handloader Digest write-ups he did on the Automag from tuning them to loading and trouble shooting. Unfortunately by the time I started camping and shooting with Kent he had moved on from them.

leadeye
11-27-2020, 08:15 PM
Totally agree about Kent. I have all the Gun Digest and Handloader Digest write-ups he did on the Automag from tuning them to loading and trouble shooting. Unfortunately by the time I started camping and shooting with Kent he had moved on from them.

True, but he moved on into NFA stuff which was just as interesting. Like everything he did he went at it like killing snakes. I do miss him, didn't see him as much after he moved west.

rockrat
11-27-2020, 09:17 PM
Remember going into LA area with Mom, when I was young teenager. Stopped by the factory store and tried to talk Mom into buying one of the 44's and just sticking it in a drawer till I turned 21. IIRC, it was $279. She wouldn't do it:(

MUSTANG
11-27-2020, 10:24 PM
Waiting for the review. Who is making the ammo?


YOU DO!. The .44 mag is made from cut down .308's and the .357's are made from same.

.44's
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012032368
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?247767-Making-44-mag-brass-from-308

.357's
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011952177
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?178776-Reloading-for-the-357-Auto-Mag-Pistol-(AMP)-Which-reloader-s-manuals
http://www.muzzlefirst.com/357-auto-mag.html

Don Purcell
11-27-2020, 11:46 PM
True, but he moved on into NFA stuff which was just as interesting. Like everything he did he went at it like killing snakes. I do miss him, didn't see him as much after he moved west.

Blew a lot of rounds at the strip mines around Dugger and Linton, Indiana. After he moved to Salmon just got to visit when he was at Knob Creek. Still miss him.

AndyC
11-28-2020, 12:02 AM
Anyone remember "Mack Bolan - The Executioner"?
That's where I first heard of the Automag. My dad would bring back the books from business-trips to the US and I'd devour them all.


Waiting for the review. Who is making the ammo?
Most Automag owners handload, but Starline makes brass and SBR Ammunition makes factory 240gr ammo.


What are they selling for?
$3,495 for 6.5", $3,795 for 8.5". The Founders' Editions (all sold) were $3,995.

www.automag.com

onelight
11-28-2020, 12:14 AM
If cast bullet members get a 80% off discount code I am gonna get on the list :bigsmyl2:

dtknowles
11-28-2020, 12:19 AM
If cast bullet members get a 80% off discount code I am gonna get on the list :bigsmyl2:

I am waiting for a .357. Hope they keep selling.

Tim

Cosmic_Charlie
11-28-2020, 06:00 AM
I would have a hard time not going for a NIB 8-3/8" 29-2 . About $2,500 on GB. But to each there own.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/878350715

AndyC
11-28-2020, 11:58 AM
I am waiting for a .357. Hope they keep selling.

Tim
I'd love a .357 AMP upper too as I've never gotten to play with one; the lead engineer did say they're planning on it.

Targa
11-28-2020, 12:05 PM
I am not a big fan of auto pistols but man I want one of these!

TNsailorman
11-28-2020, 12:15 PM
Way out of my price range but it is a really nice looking auto, I always liked their looks. james

rintinglen
11-28-2020, 02:17 PM
I bought one in 1973 when I came back from overseas. What a piece of junk. They went bankrupt (the first time) right after I bought it. I did not have the reloading skills to make reliable ammo, and the CDM (?) stuff from Mexico was useless. I bought it for 299 plus tax and sold it for 400--thank you Dirty Harry. Nothing would make me buy another one.

leadeye
11-28-2020, 04:19 PM
Have two that I've had for a long time, get them out for a clean/shoot/clean every now and then. Never have had any of the mechanical issues though.

missionary5155
11-28-2020, 05:20 PM
I doubt I would ever buy one but they sure a cool factor !

We have a S&W 8 3/8 in 41 mag and a Dan Wesson 8 inch 41 mag. I would not trade our DW 41 for any S&W 41mag.
We have a bunch of S&W revolvers so I am not against then but they sure are not a Dan Wesson.

leadeye
11-28-2020, 07:44 PM
Dirty Harry guns and holsters.

Scrounge
11-29-2020, 11:20 AM
Well, crud! I'm still never gonna get one. :(

onelight
11-29-2020, 01:29 PM
The price is one of the problems with being an old guy :shock:
I paid $700. Less for the first new car I bought. And only $1300. More for a new mobile home furnished with AC when I got married .
I am glad they make them and hope some of you guys get one , look like a neat pistol.

jem102
11-29-2020, 09:51 PM
Dirty Harry guns and holsters.

Is that a Horseshoe Leather shoulderholster?

blackpowder man
11-29-2020, 10:02 PM
I used to want one and would drool over them at gun shows. A friend bought one a few years back and I ran a few rounds through it. Another friend bought a desert eagle also some years ago and I shot it too. I think the desert eagle might be the better shooter, but I’m with the guys above on the revolvers. I’ve owned quite a few big bore long barreled revolvers and the most accurate scoped one was a Ruger Super Redhawk with a 9 1/2” barrel.

And Mack Bolan also carried a Beretta 93 I think it was that shot 3 round bursts. I’d still like one of thos too!

murf205
11-29-2020, 10:51 PM
Have two that I've had for a long time, get them out for a clean/shoot/clean every now and then. Never have had any of the mechanical issues though.

leadeye, how accurate are those Automags? I had a friend who had one and he complained about the accuracy constantly but IIRC he was not the best shot anyway. Do you shoot cast in yours? I am thinking that loading them down to less than full throttle would cause functioning problems??

leadeye
11-30-2020, 05:49 PM
leadeye, how accurate are those Automags? I had a friend who had one and he complained about the accuracy constantly but IIRC he was not the best shot anyway. Do you shoot cast in yours? I am thinking that loading them down to less than full throttle would cause functioning problems??

The top one in the picture is a TDE 180, It shoots as well as the M-29 S&W in the same picture. I've not fired cast in either one and you are correct about the down loading. You don't go down to far without issues with function. While I've never had "bolt bounce" I know people who did, so for me it's shoot,check, shoot, check etc.

I would like to get one of the new ones someday and hope the company decides to make parts for the old ones.

leadeye
11-30-2020, 05:52 PM
Is that a Horseshoe Leather shoulderholster?

On the left is a Safariland shoulder holster for the Automag and on the right is a Lawman Leathergoods shoulder holster for the Model 29.

AndyC
11-30-2020, 06:27 PM
leadeye, how accurate are those Automags? I had a friend who had one and he complained about the accuracy constantly but IIRC he was not the best shot anyway.
Standing on my hind legs for these, I was not used to the gun then and still intimidated by it - but those are 5 shot groups at each 1" sticker at 10 yards. Started top-left and worked clockwise:
https://i.imgur.com/4r1d6gz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jywe4JX.jpg



I would like to get one of the new ones someday and hope the company decides to make parts for the old ones.

AndyC
11-30-2020, 06:35 PM
Holster I made for mine - taught me a little about a whole new hobby ;)

272384

murf205
12-01-2020, 03:09 PM
The top one in the picture is a TDE 180, It shoots as well as the M-29 S&W in the same picture. I've not fired cast in either one and you are correct about the down loading. You don't go down to far without issues with function. While I've never had "bolt bounce" I know people who did, so for me it's shoot,check, shoot, check etc.

I would like to get one of the new ones someday and hope the company decides to make parts for the old ones.

I think my friend tried to load his down to make it more comfortable to shoot and he had bolt bounce like you're talking about. I had a chance to swap an 8 3/8" model 29 even for that gun and declined because of that. I had just shot my first whitetail with a cast boolit at about 1000 fps and was hooked on lower velocities and could not do it with that particular gun. I have wished a thousand times I had now.
AndyC , that's some pretty good shooting with a big gun, my friend. Especially that last group. What load are you running in that new gun? BTW, that's a good looking holster you crafted.

AndyC
12-01-2020, 03:30 PM
AndyC , that's some pretty good shooting with a big gun, my friend. Especially that last group. What load are you running in that new gun? BTW, that's a good looking holster you crafted.
Thank you kindly, Murf.

https://i.imgur.com/6iKmmhs.jpg

That was a test of my handloads - 22.5 gr H110 under a j-word Hornady 240gr XTP bullet (which the previous owner of the pistol had recommended to me) in Starline brass, Win primers. I later chrono'd the factory SBR (Hornady 240gr XTP bullet) ammo versus that load:

https://i.imgur.com/OR2Gilz.jpg

leadeye
12-01-2020, 07:36 PM
Good looking groups and holster Andy!

Thanks for the tip on the parts, I've never had to replace anything, but it's good to know there are some still out there.

abunaitoo
12-02-2020, 04:49 PM
Closest I ever got to owning one, was a toy I once had.
Sure wish I could get one.
Along with a Gyro jet, Webley Fosbery, Dardick.
I like strange stuff.

AndyC
12-02-2020, 08:04 PM
Along with a Gyro jet, Webley Fosbery, Dardick.
I like strange stuff.
YES! All of those still fascinate me.


Good looking groups and holster Andy!

Thanks for the tip on the parts, I've never had to replace anything, but it's good to know there are some still out there.
Thank you very much and you're very welcome :)

AndyC
12-04-2020, 01:47 PM
Seen on FB today:

https://i.imgur.com/UVm9ncs.png

Jtarm
12-04-2020, 04:57 PM
That would make my day.

garandsrus
12-04-2020, 10:33 PM
I don’t have either the 44 or 357 Automag pistols, but I have a RCBS form die set for both. I actually have two sets for 357 but one doesn’t have a reamer. No extended shell holders, which is unfortunate.

JSnover
12-05-2020, 08:47 AM
I would like to get one of the new ones someday and hope the company decides to make parts for the old ones.

From what I've read they intend to service and support the older guns, right now they're focused on getting the new ones out to customers.

Mr_Sheesh
12-07-2020, 06:06 AM
Garandsrus, you can get the extended shell holders fairly easily, RCBS ones anyways, I had to buy a #3 (308 etc.) a short while ago. Before the current covid shortages but those shouldn't be unobtanium hopefully.

jwp475
12-07-2020, 09:06 AM
If I were looking for an Auto Mag I would prefer the 41 mag

leadeye
12-07-2020, 10:17 AM
From what I've read they intend to service and support the older guns, right now they're focused on getting the new ones out to customers.

That's good news.

SweetMk
12-07-2020, 11:29 AM
If I were looking for an Auto Mag I would prefer the 41 mag

You can pretty much pick up one of those at any LGS,,,

https://i.imgur.com/UP8KNnt.jpg

jwp475
12-07-2020, 02:21 PM
You can pretty much pick up one of those at any LGS,,,

https://i.imgur.com/UP8KNnt.jpg


41 auto mag

Engineer1911
12-08-2020, 12:44 AM
I've made $4K on my 401K in the past 3 months, have a #3 RCBS extended shell holder, but would need dies. I have a +bucket of 308 / 30-06 brass and sufficient experience annealing brass case necks. But at almost 73 do I need a semi-auto wrist buster when I have eight 44 mag S&W revolvers. I sold my 10-5/8" M29 Silhouette revolver 4 years ago (before shoulder surgery) because I couldn't 'hold it up' to shoot.

I believe I will reluctantly pass, until I sell the 44 mag revolvers, at least 6 of them.

AndyC
12-08-2020, 01:25 PM
It does suck to get older :(

Jtarm
12-09-2020, 05:22 PM
It does suck to get older :(

It sure beats the other option.

snowwolfe
12-10-2020, 09:25 AM
Would love to see a comparison test between the new Automag and a Desert Eagle 44 mag

GBertolet
12-10-2020, 07:28 PM
I used to have one. Mine was a TDE model. I bought it N.O.S. My friend was a dealer, and I still don't know how he found this. I sold it about 30 years ago, to someone who wanted it real bad. As I remember, it had feeding issues, and would constantly break small parts. I finally got tired of it. I made my own cases out of .308 brass. I had a friend that shot Hi-power, and would give me all his split neck cases. I had the RCBS case forming die set. Just run the case in the die, cut it off flush with a hacksaw, and file the case top smooth. There is a crank type reamer, to thin the brass out at the neck, so it will accept the bullets. I had the factory case, an extra magazine, and a Safariland shoulder holster, to go with it. I regret selling it now, not because I liked shooting it, but it is a neat gun to have. As a new homeowner, I needed the money then, but now I could afford to keep it. Isn't that the way it always is.

Green Frog
12-12-2020, 09:57 AM
Nature’s way of keeping us in check... by the time we can afford to buy much of the stuff we dream of in our youth, we are too old and worn out to enjoy owning and using it! It’s Karma, I guess. :-?

Froggie

AndyC
12-12-2020, 09:58 AM
Only part that's broken on mine so far is the rear-sight elevation screw - quickly replaced. The interesting news is that they put one of the new ones through a 5,000 round torture test and it passed - so get your name on the list ;)

merlin101
12-12-2020, 07:29 PM
I'm pretty sure it will exceed the 50 oz. limit making it unavailable in NY. Cuomo is an idiot!

GBertolet
12-21-2020, 12:37 PM
I went through my files, and found some copies of the early Auto Mag newsletters. Here's the front page of the premier edition. Lots of good info in these newsletters, on loading, tuning, hunting stories, and inside manufacturing and development info. The editorial staff, was a whos who, in handgun hunting.

AndyC
12-22-2020, 12:48 PM
Thank you, GBertolet.

Here's a link with what I think are all of the newsletters:

http://www.amtguns.net/articles/lee-jurras/club-de-auto-mag-internationale/

snowwolfe
12-22-2020, 07:32 PM
How many of these are in the hands of buyers who actually bought one? I am interested but would like to see some reviews from the first 10-20 buyers first.

AndyC
12-23-2020, 06:42 PM
would like to see some reviews from the first 10-20 buyers first.
Me too. They're just starting and I have no idea - reviews will come, I'm sure. I'm waiting for mine.

GBertolet
12-24-2020, 02:38 PM
AndyC, I just sent an inquiry, asking about availabilty and ship dates. I believe you have an order in for one. What did they tell you?

snowwolfe
12-24-2020, 09:01 PM
Me too. They're just starting and I have no idea - reviews will come, I'm sure. I'm waiting for mine.

That wasn't your gun back in post #38 when you talked about shooting it?

AndyC
12-25-2020, 11:19 PM
AndyC, I just sent an inquiry, asking about availabilty and ship dates. I believe you have an order in for one. What did they tell you?
Not much other than what I've posted, although I understand they phone the new owners when theirs are about to be shipped. Haven't gotten that call yet.


That wasn't your gun back in post #38 when you talked about shooting it?
It is - made in the early 70s. I'm referring to the new-production model I'm currently awaiting.

GBertolet
12-29-2020, 06:30 PM
I just spoke to the Automag sales rep. Here is some info, in case anyone is interested in purchasing one of these. Currently, payment in full is required at time of order. Delivery time is projected to be 60-90 days??? The base prices listed, are for matte finish guns only. High polish is $275 extra, due to the extra labor involved. Prices do not include shipping. Guns are hand fitted and assembled, as ordered.

The cost is a lot of money. But consider this in perspective, a Wilson, Night Hawk, or one of the other top custom 1911s, will cost this much, or more. Those are relatively common guns, but with the Automag, you will have something truly unique.

Fireball 57
12-29-2020, 11:17 PM
My TDE AutoMag is a firebreather! It's a 44 Automag with a switchbarrel 357 AutoMag. In a low light indoor range, it will light up the entire firing line! Norma, CDM (Mexico-Remington) and SuperVel made the ammo. My stash of ammo is priceless. The trigger is light and crisp. Sorry, I just had to brag. Have a great day!

AndyC
12-29-2020, 11:50 PM
My TDE at the range:

274214

As for factory ammo, SBR currently makes it from Starline brass: https://www.sbrammunition.com/44-AUTO-MAG-44-AMP-240-GR-FMJ-50-RDS_p_606.html

pbcaster45
12-30-2020, 10:31 AM
I ordered mine over two years ago... I don't know if I'd do that again but hopefully it will be shipping next month. I'll post my results. I wonder if my old RCBS 429-240-SIL would work in it?

snowwolfe
12-30-2020, 11:14 AM
The cost is a lot of money. But consider this in perspective, a Wilson, Night Hawk, or one of the other top custom 1911s, will cost this much, or more. Those are relatively common guns, but with the Automag, you will have something truly unique.

True, if your comparing it against a 45 ACP. But compared to a Desert Eagle 44 mag the Eagle can be purchased for $1500 to $2300 depending on finish. Auto Mag wants $145 for a extra magazine. Desert Eagle is $47. Desert Eagle also comes with a picatinny rail on the latest model. The Desert Eagle can also easily be switched to .357 or 50AE.

I like the Automag, but that much money difference is huge.

psweigle
12-30-2020, 12:11 PM
I would be very tempted to jump on the list if they brought back the 30 carbine. Then all I would need would be a marlin 62 levermatic and a Blackhawk to complete the "30 carbine guns" collection. Lol.

gwpercle
12-30-2020, 02:22 PM
And I almost convinced myself I had enough guns...

LIKE !
A Blast from the Past .... Freaking Awesome ... Go For It !!!
If I were 20 years younger ....
Gary

GBertolet
12-30-2020, 02:37 PM
Snowwolfe, there is some merit to your argument. But consider this, comparing a Desert Eagle to an Automag, is like comparing a Chevy Volt to a Corvette. Both will take you where you want to go, but the workmanship, pride of ownership, collectability, and proportional holding of value, is a factor also.

snowwolfe
12-30-2020, 05:14 PM
Snowwolfe, there is some merit to your argument. But consider this, comparing a Desert Eagle to an Automag, is like comparing a Chevy Volt to a Corvette. Both will take you where you want to go, but the workmanship, pride of ownership, collectability, and proportional holding of value, is a factor also.

That all remains to be seen. I have no difficulty spending money on quality construction. But until enough of these get into the hands of shooters we just don’t know how they will hold up or how accurate and dependable they will be.
Time will tell. One thing that bothers me is the lack of a pictinny rail on top of the barrel. I am also not a fan of paying 100% of the cost then being told to wait 60-90 days. That is simply bad business

dtknowles
12-30-2020, 05:27 PM
.......Time will tell. One thing that bothers me is the lack of a pictinny rail on top of the barrel. I am also not a fan of paying 100% of the cost then being told to wait 60-90 days. That is simply bad business

I think a rail would spoil the looks of the gun. I like that is recoil not gas. I won't send them money on a 60-90 day promise. Yes that is bad business, I will wait until the wait is less or better when they can ship me one from inventory. I don't want a 44, I want a 357 anyway or at least both barrels.

Tim

onelight
12-30-2020, 05:35 PM
This gun looks like one you buy only because you want one and it may hold its value well if not molested to much.
If I was going to work a gun hard I would pick one that was not a collector item at the starting gate.
But that gun would dispose of a huge bit of my disposable income not so much for others.

AndyC
12-30-2020, 07:01 PM
I ordered mine over two years ago... I don't know if I'd do that again but hopefully it will be shipping next month. I'll post my results. I wonder if my old RCBS 429-240-SIL would work in it?
We're in the same boat and I saw your post over at AM ;)

It's funny you mention that mold - I was pondering buying one specifically for my AM and hard-cast from lino (as suggested by Kent Lomont), seeing as the Lyman 429383 RN has been discontinued.

snowwolfe
01-13-2021, 04:33 PM
I ordered mine over two years ago... I don't know if I'd do that again but hopefully it will be shipping next month. I'll post my results. I wonder if my old RCBS 429-240-SIL would work in it?

Did you receive your Automag yet?

AndyC
01-25-2021, 02:02 PM
I just got an email from AutoMag asking for my FFL's details - shouldn't be too long now.

Also, the CEO mentioned that they're hoping to get a new payment system in place soon so they can take deposits instead of the full amounts up-front.

snowwolfe
01-25-2021, 08:22 PM
I just got an email from AutoMag asking for my FFL's details - shouldn't be too long now.

Also, the CEO mentioned that they're hoping to get a new payment system in place soon so they can take deposits instead of the full amounts up-front.

Not shooting the messenger.............but thats a cop out. All "Automag" has to do is take a phone call and charge your card to whatever amount is agreed to. Same for online orders.

megasupermagnum
01-25-2021, 08:38 PM
Not shooting the messenger.............but thats a cop out. All "Automag" has to do is take a phone call and charge your card to whatever amount is agreed to. Same for online orders.

That's true, but you also now need a person to take those calls, accurately record them, call the person back to get final payment, accurately record again, and finally send the purchase order to whoever to ship the gun. In a small shop, it may not be feasible to hire a person for only that job. It is way more efficient to set up an online system that does it for you.

dtknowles
01-25-2021, 10:10 PM
I don't get the whole need deposits before they make them thing. Make them, sell them, collect the money, ship them. If your inventory gets too large, seems like 5 is a lot for them, stop production until the inventory gets sold. If you get stuck with 5 that don't sell pretty quickly well you are done and those 5 will eventually move. If you are running a business that can't put a few thousand dollars into inventory, I don't know why you are in business. If they had a .357 with a six inch barrel sitting on the shelf I would buy it today. I will not send them even a deposit. They would sell more if they operated like a factory and not a custom shop.

Tim

AndyC
01-26-2021, 12:39 AM
Probably the same as STI/Staccato - these are not high production-rate guns, these are small-run, specialist items. Like if you wanted a Staccato, as I do, you send in your money and you wait 60-90 days:

https://i.imgur.com/L6zP6A1.png

Similarly, the Wilson Combat X9:

https://i.imgur.com/9a5fCFG.png

This isn't unique in the gun world for pretty specialized, low-volume guns. Yeah, I wish I could just plunk down $3.5k and get it in a few days so I totally get it - but the company is new and still spinning up production, unlike STI Staccato and Wilson who've been going for many years. I've been waiting 3 years (I'm an enthusiast) for this pistol.

snowwolfe
01-26-2021, 09:11 AM
Agree to disagree. In the last 15 year I have ordered 4 double rifles that were built to my specs from the ground up, including the stock dimensions. Not only were they all "low volume" but I am left handed to boot. In each case a small deposit started the build and the balance was due when the rifle was finished and ready to ship.
It's simply bad business and a red flag to require payment in full when placing an order unless the firearm is ready to be shipped when its ordered.
We each have to live within our own comfort level deciding if to prepay or what size of deposit is reasonable.

AndyC
01-26-2021, 01:07 PM
No argument there! :drinks:

They seem to be confident that they'll get to that point soon where a deposit will be the norm, as mentioned.

shell70634
01-26-2021, 06:22 PM
Does anybody here remember the pre-pay for the Bren Ten? Lots of people were taken for a ride.

Shelly

leadeye
01-26-2021, 07:35 PM
One way for a company to clean up is take a lot of deposits for a popular item then file bankruptcy. The deposits are carefully figured to be high enough to be profitable but lower than legal expenses of recovery. Spread the debt around as wide as possible, but in small bits.

AndyC
02-04-2021, 01:08 PM
I got "the call" 2 days ago that my number is up to be built, heading to one of the assemblers' desks.

6 more on their way:

https://i.imgur.com/xj5Cugd.png

onelight
02-04-2021, 04:42 PM
I got "the call" 2 days ago that my number is up to be built, heading to one of the assemblers' desks.

6 more on their way:

https://i.imgur.com/xj5Cugd.png
Exciting times can't wait to see some pics and a review.
When they want all the money up front it's a bit scary. Glad to hear your # is up.

snowwolfe
02-04-2021, 09:19 PM
Look forward to reading your review. Am sure you are excited to finally get it.

AndyC
02-04-2021, 10:50 PM
When they want all the money up front it's a bit scary.
That's for damn sure; I questioned my sanity many times. Hopefully nobody else has to go through that in the future but things are looking really positive that they won't.

I'm disappointed that I've not seen a single video of any of the new owners shooting their toy - I figure I'd better be the first if nobody beats me to it.

Mr_Sheesh
02-05-2021, 12:25 AM
With the current political climate, I can understand that many might want to be as low profile as they can 2A wise, that could be part of it?

AndyC
02-05-2021, 11:52 AM
Good point - it's possible, yes. Still, I didn't fight my way into becoming a citizen of this country to wimp out just because Lefties don't like stuff, you know? They can suck it ;)

AndyC
02-06-2021, 02:13 PM
Someone reported getting #35 yesterday - my number is 39 so perhaps this coming week...

AndyC
02-12-2021, 01:34 PM
I got the call - my AutoMag is being shipped today.

https://i.imgur.com/sZNsyJs.jpg

snowwolfe
02-13-2021, 04:23 PM
Sweet looking. Hope she shoots as good as it looks.

AndyC
02-13-2021, 05:38 PM
Thank you - arriving Tue or Wed, so we'll find out.

Edit: Delayed due to Texas Snowpocalypse, but has finally arrived at FFL - collecting Sunday 21 Feb.

pbcaster45
07-29-2022, 12:09 PM
Sorry guys, I've not been too active lately! My .44 Auto Mag was delivered back in May after nearly 3 1/2 years! It's very accurate and 100% reliable when the ammo is loaded hot. Still haven't tried any cast boolits in it... too damn warm right now for any shooting anyway!

302657

302660

Best load so far is a duplicate of the factory load made by SBR.

Bullet: Hornady 240 grain XTP-HP
Powder: Winchester 296 23.5 grs.
Primer: Winchester Large Pistol
Case: Starline
OAL: 1.596
Average Velocity: 1506 fps
ES: 29
SD: 10

Here are the results for the factory load.

Bullet: SBR 44 AMP 240 grain Hornady XTP-HP
Case: Starline
OAL: 1.600 - 1.605
Average Velocity: 1503 fps
ES: 24
SD: 8

snowwolfe
08-02-2022, 11:01 PM
Thank you - arriving Tue or Wed, so we'll find out.

Edit: Delayed due to Texas Snowpocalypse, but has finally arrived at FFL - collecting Sunday 21 Feb.

Andy
How do you like the Automag?

danmat
08-04-2022, 11:23 AM
If I don't quit following this post its Gona cost me LOL
I have wanted one these since they first came out.
Now one that works like it should, sure is tempting!

Kosh75287
08-04-2022, 12:50 PM
And I almost convinced myself I had enough guns...

Oh, I DO have ENOUGH guns. But I'm STILL well short of having "too many"!