Henry has seen the light!

[curioushooter]

All steel models now will have SIDE GATES! Something they should have had from the beginning and through the persistent requests have finally accepted.

NOW, if they would chamber something in 357 Maximum, 375 Winchester, and 444 Marlin! The three high performance rimmed straight walls that can allow you to reach out an touch something with a traditional levergun.

[Froogal]

Now if they changed the rifles to a top eject style, they might actually have something I might want.

[Led]

I would buy one in 357 Max.

Later,
Stephen

[curioushooter]

Now if they changed the rifles to a top eject style, they might actually have something I might want.

This is exactly the opposite of how I feel. What advantage is offered by top eject? I can name the following disadvantages. Either you can't or it is difficult to mount optics in the usual way. It allows snow and rain to drop into your action. It pops hot brass straight up in the air which likes to fall down your shirt. I have an angle-ejecting Mossberg 464. I greatly prefer the Marlin/Henry design, personally. I could never abide by the hokey tube loading method of the Henry. For about 6 years I've been writing letters say put a side gate on the steel ones at least. They finally have and I will buy one. Probably a 44.

[Froogal]

This is exactly the opposite of how I feel. What advantage is offered by top eject? I can name the following disadvantages. Either you can't or it is difficult to mount optics in the usual way. It allows snow and rain to drop into your action. It pops hot brass straight up in the air which likes to fall down your shirt. I have an angle-ejecting Mossberg 464. I greatly prefer the Marlin/Henry design, personally. I could never abide by the hokey tube loading method of the Henry. For about 6 years I've been writing letters say put a side gate on the steel ones at least. They finally have and I will buy one. Probably a 44.

Top eject is traditional and accepted by both NCOWS and SASS. Side eject is not. Original Henrys were top eject.

[Texas by God]

Their commercials on OAN make me want to buy from them.

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[303Guy]

Just a question on top eject - does it not make the action more symmetrical? As in vibration harmonics symmetrical, which might affect accuracy? Anyway, I prefer a side eject, not that I have a lever gun or ever will. I still like them though.

[gpidaho]

I'm not too hung up on the side gate thing and I prefer the side eject for mounting optic. I have the Henry octagon barrel 45-70 that has the case hardened colors and is tube fed. It's topped with a 6X fixed power scope and is accurate and powerful, very happy with it. I certainly don't NEED one but would love to have a Henry in 444 Marlin and enjoy shooting my friend Wes's In 41mag. Gp

[John Boy]

I am waiting for a 38-55 ... They have a 30-30 that’s not much different

[redhawk0]

John Boy....I'm with you except I'd like the 35 Rem in Blue Steel and Wood. I don't really like the Brass receiver.....seems they are missing it with their new additions.

redhawk

[gpidaho]

John Boy....I'm with you except I'd like the 35 Rem in Blue Steel and Wood. I don't really like the Brass receiver.....seems they are missing it with their new additions.

redhawk The caliber 35 Remington is on my wish list for a lever gun. I have the break barrel Handi and like the round a lot. Gp

[ddixie884]

Glad to hear it..........

[curioushooter]

Side eject is not.

So I guess Marlins aren't SASS or NCOWS or whatever approved?

[Prairie Cowboy]

Top eject is traditional and accepted by both NCOWS and SASS. Side eject is not. Original Henrys were top eject.

While it may be hard to accept, the world does not revolve around Cowboy Action Shooting.
Uberti, Navy Arms, and others sold a ton of 1866 and 1873 rifle replicas before CAS came into existence in the mid-1980s, along with black powder revolvers, SAA replicas, and Remington 1875 replicas.
And, many hunters and shooters today have and will buy Henry Steel and Brass rifles and will never go near a CAS match.

[Prairie Cowboy]

So I guess Marlins aren't SASS or NCOWS or whatever approved?

It was my understanding that the Marlin 1894 Cowboy came into being to appeal to CAS shooters, and that they were very popular. And, that the standard 1894 was being used before that.
Apparently SASS approves of any pre-1898 design with an external hammer, as long as the cartridges are loaded down to their standards.

[Norske]

A question about the "brass" receiver Henry rifles: Is the metal brass (weak metal) or is it admiralty bronze (stronger than mild steel)?

[Hickok]

A question about the "brass" receiver Henry rifles: Is the metal brass (weak metal) or is it admiralty bronze (stronger than mild steel)?It only looks like brass. It is some kind of metal alloy. Supposedly very strong.

[richhodg66]

Never had one, but could never understand what the big deal was about them not having a side gate. Just a different set up, learn to use it, no problem.

Too many purists out there who can't think beyond "this is the way it's supposed to be".

[FredMcIntire]

I am waiting for a 38-55 ... They have a 30-30 that’s not much different

I read that they are offering the 38-55.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/11/henry-model-24-side-gate-lever-action-rifle-38-55-win/#axzz6g9oUSBeg

[NSB]

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There are probably five hundred hunters who’d buy that gun for every person wanting it for cowboy action shooting, etc.

[wch]

I would buy one in 357 Max.

Later,
Stephen
Me, too!

[Laguna Freak]

This is exactly the opposite of how I feel. What advantage is offered by top eject? I can name the following disadvantages. Either you can't or it is difficult to mount optics in the usual way. It allows snow and rain to drop into your action. It pops hot brass straight up in the air which likes to fall down your shirt. I have an angle-ejecting Mossberg 464. I greatly prefer the Marlin/Henry design, personally. I could never abide by the hokey tube loading method of the Henry. For about 6 years I've been writing letters say put a side gate on the steel ones at least. They finally have and I will buy one. Probably a 44.

Thank you and others for your diligence. :drinks:

[Laguna Freak]

In addition to the side gate, Henry has sped up the twist rate on some models.

[indian joe]

Never had one, but could never understand what the big deal was about them not having a side gate. Just a different set up, learn to use it, no problem.

Too many purists out there who can't think beyond "this is the way it's supposed to be".

ahhhhhrgghh we like what we like because we like it - wheres the problem with that? I happen to like top eject winchesters - I think scopes belong on bolt guns which are a tool (like a hammer or a shovel, made to do a job) if you gave me a marlin or a henry I would sell it tomorrow and put the cash towards the next top eject winchester clone - there are blokes out there that think flat top lever guns are the ants pants - not me - I dont like em - for no particular reason I can think of - just dont like em - why should that offend the bloke that dont like Winchesters ???? .....lighten up here boys we are playing.... Chose whatever colour toy takes your fancy and enjoy it while you can - it wont last forever (the toy might but there are people out there intent on seeing playtime halted).

[DAVIDMAGNUM]

This is exactly the opposite of how I feel. What advantage is offered by top eject? I can name the following disadvantages. Either you can't or it is difficult to mount optics in the usual way. It allows snow and rain to drop into your action. It pops hot brass straight up in the air which likes to fall down your shirt. I have an angle-ejecting Mossberg 464. I greatly prefer the Marlin/Henry design, personally. I could never abide by the hokey tube loading method of the Henry. For about 6 years I've been writing letters say put a side gate on the steel ones at least. They finally have and I will buy one. Probably a 44.

Top eject with allows me to catch my brass and set it in a tray when shooting Lever Action Silhouette . I do not believe that I could catch brass from a side elect.

I have personally seen a magazine tube explosion on the firing line. The shooter was dropping 45 Colt rounds nearly straight down into the tube. Two rounds discharged. Damaged the rifle and shooter. He was taken to the emergency room to get a piece of magazine tube removed from his leg.

[godzilla]

I would buy one in 357 Max.

Later,
Stephen

Could you ream out the chamber on a 357 mag rifle? I wonder if it would run thru the lever rifle with its increased OAL?

[flint45]

I am for one glad they put the side gate on I cannot abide loading anything down a tube other than a 22 LR. It’s too awkward and slow.

[Bubba w/a 45/70]

Top eject with allows me to catch my brass and set it in a tray when shooting Lever Action Silhouette . I do not believe that I could catch brass from a side elect.

I have personally seen a magazine tube explosion on the firing line. The shooter was dropping 45 Colt rounds nearly straight down into the tube. Two rounds discharged. Damaged the rifle and shooter. He was taken to the emergency room to get a piece of magazine tube removed from his leg.

In other words it sounds like shooter error, not rifle malfunction/ design weakness.

[kenton]

I am waiting for a 38-55 ... They have a 30-30 that’s not much different

https://www.henryusa.com/caliber/38-55/

[jetinteriorguy]

It only looks like brass. It is some kind of metal alloy. Supposedly very strong.
Brass is an alloy and can be made harder or softer depending on the ratio of the metals.

[jdowney]

I am for one glad they put the side gate on I cannot abide loading anything down a tube other than a 22 LR. It’s too awkward and slow.

I agree, my only tube loader is a 9422. Fine on a plinking gun but I don't care for it on a field gun. I suppose Henry used it on all of them because it was easier to engineer and it allows the tube to be unloaded easily.

Nothing wrong with it though, just what you are used to. Its kept me from buying a Henry before. On the other hand, the side eject wouldn't prevent me from buying one if it works well. The functionality is what I'm after.


In other words it sounds like shooter error, not rifle malfunction/ design weakness.

Kinda my reaction too. Probably dropped the cartridges straight down the tube - even with .22's I always hold the rifle at about 45 degrees or even less and slide them down. That's what makes it fine for plinking, you usually have a table or tailgate to rest the butt on and angle the rifle as you reload it. That said, having not been there I'm just speculating.

[JimB..]

In other words it sounds like shooter error, not rifle malfunction/ design weakness.

Reloading error, primer seated high.

[Randy Bohannon]

I was just looking on GB for a steel Henry in .41 Mag. There are exactly zero on GB of any flavor Henry or a collector item Marlin . I did find one at a online dealer,Bud’s and a few others have back order notifications,I wonder if it’s going under changes including a loading gate. I might have to grab the one “in stock” and then if a gated version comes about ,I’ll add it .

[jdowney]

Looking at some auctions for them, it looks like they added a gate to the receiver and kept the tube load (and also tube unload) for those that want it. Gotta say, that's the way to do it, please everyone if you can. I have to admit that Henry seems like a good outfit in spite of my generally traditional tastes.

[farmbif]

I think the henry's are great, they different than marlins, and both are different than winchesters, so what, they are what they are and they all good in my opinion
and I have learned that when your eyes start getting older, ive come to appreciate being able to put a little scope on top of my old marlin or new Henry with easy to find common mounting hardware.

[curioushooter]

Could you ream out the chamber on a 357 mag rifle? I wonder if it would run thru the lever rifle with its increased OAL?

No. The overall lengthy of a 357 max is too long for the short action length of the Marlin 1894. You could load them one at a time, but they wouldn't feed. I don't know if they made Henry Big Boys longer. But maybe they could. With CNC today I would think making several actions of proper length would cost less than it ever has.

[gwpercle]

For some unknown reason the New Original Henry - Rebirth of the 1860 Henry 44 rimfire _ has always drawn me to it like a Moth to a Flame ... since it first came out ... like I need another Lever action rifle at my age (72 in August) ... I haven't hunted in years ... But if I could hunt from a blind , say for hogs over a corn feeder I wouldn't have to walk miles through the swamps like we used to ...
Hmmm... a 44-40 could take a hog ... maybe I could line up a hunt with a local guide / outfitter who make accomidations for old guys who can't walk too far .

Searched LA Hog Hunting Outfitters and found several ...one takes you in an Airboat ... see 6 right off
The hard part is going to be convincing the wife you can only hunt hogs with reproduction 1860 Henry Lever Gun in 44-40 !
Something to think about ... that beautiful brass receiver , blue steel barrel and Walnut stock ... Handsome Rifle !
Gary

[Agent1187]

I grew up near the Rice Lake factory and swore that I'd buy one in 357 the second they decided to add a side gate.

Thanks to this post, I ordered one right away but of course they were already backlogged. Took until the end of May when my local dealer twisted some tails to get it in hand.

People weren't kidding when they said the case hardened 20" octagon barreled big boy is a heavy rifle. But boy does that tame even magnum loads to pleasant plinking. Had some headspace issue where even 38 Spl had case head separations, but customer service fixed me up in <10 days.

Now to find a deer load for this year!

[smkummer]

The 35 Remington does everything and a bit more than the .357 max will do EXCEPT the straight wall deer states. Knock down power/ recoil/ usefulness and range is a wonderful combination.

To catch your brass with a side eject, simply slow down the lever action, but it’s true for cowboy action, my brass is harder to find than a top eject.

[NSB]

I am for one glad they put the side gate on I cannot abide loading anything down a tube other than a 22 LR. It’s too awkward and slow.
Really? How about UNLOADING? For hunting how many times a day do you have to load the gun?

[lightload]

ahhhhhrgghh we like what we like because we like it - wheres the problem with that? I happen to like top eject winchesters - I think scopes belong on bolt guns which are a tool (like a hammer or a shovel, made to do a job) if you gave me a marlin or a henry I would sell it tomorrow and put the cash towards the next top eject winchester clone - there are blokes out there that think flat top lever guns are the ants pants - not me - I dont like em - for no particular reason I can think of - just dont like em - why should that offend the bloke that dont like Winchesters ???? .....lighten up here boys we are playing.... Chose whatever colour toy takes your fancy and enjoy it while you can - it wont last forever (the toy might but there are people out there intent on seeing playtime halted).
I agree. Play with what you like. I'm 74, and after "babysitting" my neighbor's 6 year old, I learned I enjoyed coloring with crayons and a coloring book. So the boy and I color. I have a Win 94 and several Marlins. I prefer the 94 but only because I started out with one.

[Texas by God]

One of the guys at our deer lease has a new Henry X 45-70 with a red dot sight. It is a neat carbine and hell on pigs. I like the two way magazine fill option, also.

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[bcp]

How far back does it have to be to be "traditional"?

1873 Winchester-top ejection

1881 Marlin-top ejection

1886 Winchester-top ejection

1888 Marlin-top ejection

1889 Marlin-side ejection

1892 Winchester-top ejection

1893 Marlin-side ejection

1894 Winchester-top ejection

1894 Marlin-side ejection

1895 Marlin-side ejection

1895 Winchester-top ejection

:)

Bruce