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abunaitoo
11-21-2020, 07:41 PM
Got a call from a friend today.
Asked if I could use some Bredan primers.
Went to pick them up.
Little over 5000 5.5 Norma
I hope they will fit ...............
7.5 Swiss
8mm Lebel MG cases
7.65 Arg

john.k
11-21-2020, 07:54 PM
I find berdan primers make very good musket caps.....they have a lot more power than tophat caps,and eliminate the hangfire effect so familiar to shooters......They also work reliably my IAB Sharps carbine ,which others dont.

recumbent
11-21-2020, 08:17 PM
Are they corrosive?

abunaitoo
11-21-2020, 09:17 PM
Round cardboard containers don't say if corrosive.
7 unopened
3 opened
1 box
271893

Texas by God
11-21-2020, 09:25 PM
Forgive my density, but don't they require brass with the integral anvil? Makes me sad thinking of all the GP11 7.5 Swiss empties that I scrapped.....

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M-Tecs
11-21-2020, 09:31 PM
5.5m is correct for the 7.5 Swiss. It is also listed as .217" diameter.

elmacgyver0
11-21-2020, 09:36 PM
Very nice haul!

M-Tecs
11-21-2020, 10:12 PM
Forgive my density, but don't they require brass with the integral anvil? Makes me sad thinking of all the GP11 7.5 Swiss empties that I scrapped.....

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I've reloaded several thousand Berdan Swiss cases. I use the water method to deprime. The anvil is part of the case.

M-Tecs
11-21-2020, 10:14 PM
I find berdan primers make very good musket caps.....they have a lot more power than tophat caps,and eliminate the hangfire effect so familiar to shooters......They also work reliably my IAB Sharps carbine ,which others dont.

Never thought of that. All I have is .217's or 5.5mm. I will have to check fit. If not I will make nipples that fit. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gewehr-Guy
11-21-2020, 10:20 PM
I wish they would import them again, so I could reload that nice Swiss brass I have .

Ban
11-21-2020, 10:28 PM
I reload berdan in steel x39. Think we have 1k left. Saved a bundle on plinkers with the tulas.

M-Tecs
11-21-2020, 11:30 PM
I wish they would import them again, so I could reload that nice Swiss brass I have .

Hazmat makes shipping problematic but what part of the country do you live in? if you are close enough we could do a FTF sale or trade. For shipping (unless it's for than money than I am will to ask) the only option would be to 5K for 5K of Remington 7 1/2's or CCI 41's

john.k
11-22-2020, 02:36 AM
Not corrosive ...usually logo is "inox" or something like..........5.5mm is standard berdan for euro cases......other common size is 6.35mm ,or 1/4" ,for British ammo.....There is also a 6.45mm size for the Brazilian shotgun shells.

abunaitoo
11-22-2020, 06:02 PM
So not corrosive????
I was looking at some of my 8mm Lebel cases.
They are much thicker than the Graf cases.
Looks like they would be perfect for the 41 Swiss conversion.
Along with Lebel reloads

EMC45
11-22-2020, 07:41 PM
"Rustfrie" = non-corrosive.

abunaitoo
11-23-2020, 02:17 AM
"Rustfrie" = non-corrosive.

Yahoo!!!!!
Third good thing to happen to me this year.
It's not been a very good year.

Traffer
11-23-2020, 03:02 AM
I've reloaded several thousand Berdan Swiss cases. I use the water method to deprime. The anvil is part of the case.

Yup, I haven't reloaded ANY but I make the hydraulic deprimers (water) And my friend reloads the primers. Someday I am going to make the drawing dies to manufacture Berdan Primers and switch over all my brass.

abunaitoo
11-23-2020, 03:30 AM
Hydraulic works most of the time.
Sometimes I just have to pry them out.
I do have the RCBS tool, but if it's not set just right, it will damage the shell.

M-Tecs
11-23-2020, 04:02 AM
Yup, I haven't reloaded ANY but I make the hydraulic deprimers (water) And my friend reloads the primers. Someday I am going to make the drawing dies to manufacture Berdan Primers and switch over all my brass.

By switch I assume you mean switching to cases that started life as Berdan? If you are actually converting I know how converting from Berdan to Boxer works but never though of going the other way. That seems like it would be a lot more difficult.

GregLaROCHE
11-23-2020, 04:02 AM
Is it true that Berdan primers don’t have a built in anvil and use the casing as the anvil? Can someone explain more about how that works. It’s the first time I’ve heard about this.

M-Tecs
11-23-2020, 04:05 AM
Is it true that Berdan primers don’t have a built in anvil and use the casing as the anvil? Can someone explain more about how that works. It’s the first time I’ve heard about this.

https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/boxer-vs-berdan-primers/

Traffer
11-23-2020, 04:23 AM
No I don't mean to modify boxer cases to use berdan...that would be quite a feat!

abunaitoo
11-23-2020, 04:26 AM
On some cases, it's not as hard as it sounds.

farmerjim
11-23-2020, 08:37 AM
Drill and tap the centered flash hole. Install a threaded anvil. Then drill a small flash hole on both sides of the anvil.

This could be done by somebody with lots of skill and time, and nothing else to do.