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GOPHER SLAYER
11-07-2020, 05:43 PM
Gentlemen, I am having the devil's own time putting this tool back together. I have done the job several times in the past with little trouble but this time I am ready to throw in the towel. You have to take it apart to change primer sizes. I only use it when i have a few cases to prime. I like it because it uses regular shell holders. Any suggestions?

SweetMk
11-07-2020, 06:05 PM
RCBS has two, you have the older one,, both work well,,

The newer one does not need a specific shellholder for each type cartridge,,
Have you watched the YouTube videos? there are quite a few, maybe one shows the primer size change??

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=change+from+large+to+small+pr imer+on+RCBS+hand+priming+tool

I had a Lee, then recently purchased to newer one from RCBS,,
I did change the primer size,, just as a learning thing,, it was a little tricky, but, I did it per the instructions, and it worked OK,,

Brick85
11-07-2020, 06:25 PM
IIRC on the old style if you don't keep the lever depressed when the bar is off, you mess it up and are supposed to send it back for service.

Just got one of the new ones and it was missing parts. Trying to get a hold of them to send the parts out. Glad that was intended as a spare to my old style one.

Mk42gunner
11-07-2020, 07:32 PM
IIRC on the old style if you don't keep the lever depressed when the bar is off, you mess it up and are supposed to send it back for service.

Just got one of the new ones and it was missing parts. Trying to get a hold of them to send the parts out. Glad that was intended as a spare to my old style one.
I've had one for close to thirty years. You don't have to send it back if you let things go while converting primer size or just changing the shellholder, but it can be a PITA to get everything lined up to where it works.

If the push rod is allowed to come out of its bore, the easiest way I have found to put it back is to put just a little pressure on the lever, then use a small screwdriver to gently align the round rod with its bore. After that it should go together as normal.

It will take some fiddling around, just don't get ham handed and try to use a hammer to fix it.

Good Luck,

Robert

redhawk0
11-07-2020, 08:15 PM
Agreed...you have to put pressure on the lever but from the underside (pulling up on it, slightly)....it will go back in...and if you have to force it at all...you're doing it wrong.

redhawk

GOPHER SLAYER
11-07-2020, 09:13 PM
Thank you all for your input. I did not see my priming tool in any of the videos. I have changed priming size before with little difficulty but that was several years ago. The major problem is, you need one more hand. I asked my wife to lend a hand but, well you can imagine how that worked out. I will give it one more shot tomorrow.

Hick
11-07-2020, 09:29 PM
I use these regularly. Here's how I do it. I take out the curved piece, open the lever and let the primer rod drop. Then change shell holders and primer rods as needed, Then, turn it upside down and shake a little until the primer rod slides into the hole for the primers. Next, use a screw driver or such to get the push rod back in the hole in the bottom of the primer rod, close the lever and put the curved piece back in. The trick is the upside down shake to get the primer rod started without forcing it. If it does not start right, wiggle the shell holder a little (if it is not seated right the rid will not go in).

Brick85
11-07-2020, 11:04 PM
I use these regularly. Here's how I do it. I take out the curved piece, open the lever and let the primer rod drop. Then change shell holders and primer rods as needed, Then, turn it upside down and shake a little until the primer rod slides into the hole for the primers. Next, use a screw driver or such to get the push rod back in the hole in the bottom of the primer rod, close the lever and put the curved piece back in. The trick is the upside down shake to get the primer rod started without forcing it. If it does not start right, wiggle the shell holder a little (if it is not seated right the rid will not go in).

Mine old one must be a somewhat newer one. I think I got it circa 2008. I just unscrew the pin which holds the curved sliding piece, squeeze the lever a bit, take out the curved metal and let the priming rod drop out, then take out the plastic and swap it out. Then reattach the curved piece and drop the proper rod in. Rod will fall out if I upend the device at any point. My new one purchased this year, the rod stays in.

Petander
11-08-2020, 11:27 AM
Mine is 20 years old and has different diameter rods for S/L primer size. Make sure you are using the correct one AND install it the right way. The bottom end is rounded.

I actually have an even older one which works with single primers. But it has two rods as well.

Brick85
11-08-2020, 12:08 PM
Mine is 20 years old and has different diameter rods for S/L primer size. Make sure you are using the correct one AND install it the right way. The bottom end is rounded.



That sounds like my old one. I wonder if that's the same style the OP is fighting with?

Der Gebirgsjager
11-08-2020, 12:22 PM
Photos are always nice!

wolfwing
11-08-2020, 01:16 PM
Yup, I can get them back together, but I can't tell some one how to do it w/o pix

j_dude77
11-08-2020, 01:34 PM
I have the old style. I squeeze and hold the handle down, unscrew the curved piece, dump rod, add new rod, reinsert the curved piece, that's it.

405grain
11-09-2020, 01:51 PM
I have both the RCBS and the Lyman hand priming tools. The Lyman tool is vastly superior and much easier to use.

GOPHER SLAYER
11-09-2020, 02:10 PM
Here are pictures of my problem child. Is this the type you have.

fatelk
11-09-2020, 05:19 PM
That's a really old one. Unless it's different from mine, you shouldn't have to take anything apart. You just pull the spring loaded rods out the top, and put a new one in.

fatelk
11-09-2020, 05:33 PM
Out of curiosity, I took mine apart to see if it was the same. It's identical. No need to ever take it apart. The rod assembly pulls right out the top, to easily change shellholder or rod size. If it doesn't pull out easily, it's just stuck and you have to pull a little.

To put it back together now that you have it apart, take the larger spring that you have around the one rod and put it between the square block and the top of the housing, and put the lever assembly in below it. It's a pain to hold it together under spring tension while you put the two halves of the body together, but I was able to do it in a couple minutes.

I had one of these units a very long time ago and it eventually broke, maybe 15 or 20 years ago. I called RCBS to see about a replacement part, and they told me they were no longer made. They sent me a newer model complete as a replacement!

Over the years I accumulated another old one, in my photo, and use it occasionally. I like it for low-volume stuff because it's so quick and easy to change sizes and shellholders.

271077

Der Gebirgsjager
11-09-2020, 06:44 PM
I wore out two of those. The handles broke. Loaded hundreds of rounds with them. The first one, I sent it in for repair and RCBS sent me a new one. The second one, I guess they'd discontinued them so they sent me one of the new more complicated models. I felt a bit guilty about it, so I sent them a check. fatelk is correct, you do not have to take them apart to change the seater plug. You just remove the shell holder, then squeeze the handle and the plug will come up out of it's hole. If you can't pull it out with your fingers a pair of needle nosed pliers will work.

GOPHER SLAYER
11-09-2020, 09:26 PM
Thank you again Gentleman. I will give it a try tomorrow. The thing has been apart for so long I don't remember why I did it.

Tim357
11-09-2020, 10:30 PM
That's a really old one. Unless it's different from mine, you shouldn't have to take anything apart. You just pull the spring loaded rods out the top, and put a new one in.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^

Never had to pull mine apart, just pull the rod out the top and swap it out

468
11-09-2020, 11:04 PM
I bought 2. 1 for each size.

Mk42gunner
11-09-2020, 11:16 PM
Well that is an older design than mine, it appears to handle a single primer at a time?

Mine was the newish design during the early 1990's when I bought it after trying friends Lee, the RCBS just fit my hand better. I'm glad I spent the extra few dollars for it.

Without looking at the box, (yes I still keep it in the factory box, might be why it has lasted and stayed around), I believe the proper nomenclature for my unit is the RCBS Hand Priming Tool.

Robert

redhawk0
11-10-2020, 08:43 AM
Here are pictures of my problem child. Is this the type you have.

That's different from the one I have. Mine doesn't have the "balled end" on the pusher rod. Mine must be newer. Mine is from the early 90s.

redhawk

Soundguy
11-10-2020, 10:52 AM
IIRC on the old style if you don't keep the lever depressed when the bar is off, you mess it up and are supposed to send it back for service.

Just got one of the new ones and it was missing parts. Trying to get a hold of them to send the parts out. Glad that was intended as a spare to my old style one.

you don't have to send it back, you just have to help the little short bar travel up a little. I've had mine completely apart and in pieces to clean before. it does go back together and function.

I like the new one.. except that once you get to about 32cal case size.. the jaws are iffy. I was reloading some 327 fed mag, and every other case jumped out of the jaws and I had to go back to old trusty to get priming done.

GOPHER SLAYER
11-11-2020, 04:48 PM
I got the priming tool back together but the priming pins would not go down far enough to put in a shell holder. I could see nothing wrong with the assembly. Very frustrating.

GOPHER SLAYER
11-11-2020, 05:48 PM
Eureka! I have found it. I got it back together and it works. Thanks guys for all your help. I think I could do it again, but I wont.

3006guns
11-15-2020, 10:22 AM
I bought an RCBS priming tool after my thumb got tired of operating a Lee. The RCBS has more of a "full" handle, so you use your entire hand instead of just your thumb.

For future reference, wrap a rubber band (or a bread bag tie) around the handle before you start changing parts out. It keeps the unit from springing apart when working with it. I also store it that way if I'm going to use the same primer size in the future....makes the whole thing smaller for storage. Try it, it works. I've also put a couple of pieces of Scotch tape on the tray cover so it doesn't jump off and spill primers everywhere. Try it, it works.

When in use, I always give the whole thing a small shake after each priming operation.........keeps the primers feeding.

My RCBS is at least 20 years old and the only problem I've had is the little plastic primer gizmos that insert in the feed tray tend to wear over the years. A quick call to RCBS brought replacements in no time and no charge.

GOPHER SLAYER
11-16-2020, 02:37 PM
Thanks, I will give your advice a try. 30-06 guns I see you live way up north in California.