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Hrfunk
10-31-2020, 08:30 AM
I repeated my test from a couple of weeks ago with Hodgdon's Triple 7. The results are quite interesting!

Howard


https://youtu.be/auzVlzr0jRg

Markopolo
10-31-2020, 09:38 AM
good job with the video!!! trip 7 is surely the higher velocity powder. too bad you cant compare the alliant black as well. look forward to your conical bullet test with the 2 powders.

Green Frog
10-31-2020, 11:27 AM
I can’t get your video to load with my throttled-back S***tel server, but I have a question for you. Do you find the cleanup after shooting “Fake BP” to be more difficult? Specifically, my fellow shooters have been complaining that even after normal cleanup and care their various BP firearms are still subject to rust and corrosion they don’t experience with the original Black. What has your experience been in this regard?

Froggie

shortlegs
10-31-2020, 03:36 PM
Great video! I have heard that using a larger diameter ball gives more surface for the rifling to engage thus giving more friction and causes the powder to burn better and in turn give more pressure/velocity and more consistency. Patiently waiting on the test with the conicals..................... are we there yet?

Eddie17
10-31-2020, 05:33 PM
Watched this today, looking forward to conical test. Good job on your videos!��

Hrfunk
11-01-2020, 05:48 AM
Clean up seemed the same to me after firing Triple 7 as it does with black powder. I didn’t reall notice a difference.

Howard

Hrfunk
11-01-2020, 05:50 AM
Ha, ha! I’ve heard the same thing about larger diameter balls. Don’t worry, the conical are coming!

Howard

Thumbcocker
11-01-2020, 09:31 AM
Did the .451 balls shave a ring of lead when loading? If not that could account for the deviation in velocity. Personally I run .457 balls in all my cap and balls since the Old Armys are designed for them. Simplifies logistics. If you would like to try some .457 round balls send me a pm.

Hrfunk
11-01-2020, 12:02 PM
The .451's did shave a ring of lead when I seated them in my Pietta NMA's. I've got some .454's, and I'm going to give them a try soon. Thanks for the offer!

Howard

derek45
11-01-2020, 02:06 PM
Got home from a long day at work yesterday, after supper, I kicked back on the couch, thought....."I really don't need a Remington New Army to go with my 1860 Army"

grabbed my tablet, youtube, this video was the first thing that came up.

watched it, and now I can't stop thinking about Rem NMA's again

https://i.imgur.com/0KbYKcc.jpg

Silver Jack Hammer
11-01-2020, 02:33 PM
Thanks! I’ve got a pound of 777 that has been sitting on the shelf for years. I didn’t know what to do with it. Now with your video I can load my Colt’s Army .44’s with it. I usually use Goex in my Army .44’s and Swiss in my Sharps.

Hrfunk
11-02-2020, 10:41 AM
Got home from a long day at work yesterday, after supper, I kicked back on the couch, thought....."I really don't need a Remington New Army to go with my 1860 Army"

grabbed my tablet, youtube, this video was the first thing that came up.

watched it, and now I can't stop thinking about Rem NMA's again

https://i.imgur.com/0KbYKcc.jpg

Ha, ha! I don't know whether I should apologize or say you're welcome!
Howard

Green Frog
11-02-2020, 10:57 AM
The .451's did shave a ring of lead when I seated them in my Pietta NMA's. I've got some .454's, and I'm going to give them a try soon. Thanks for the offer!

Howard

If you use a larger ball, you will get a larger ring shaved off and will have a longer bearing surface on the ball in the chamber (and of course then in the bore as well.) This is simple "Triggernometry" as well as Geometry. :mrgreen:

Froggie

junkbug
11-02-2020, 08:42 PM
Has anyone damaged a loading lever using .457" balls instead of .451" balls? Especially in a Remington NMA.

derek45
11-02-2020, 09:46 PM
Has anyone damaged a loading lever using .457" balls instead of .451" balls? Especially in a Remington NMA.

I've used .457" and .454"

They both seal up nice on my Pietta 1860 Army

...nice ring of lead.

https://i.imgur.com/aAkVhoy.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/e3dj57E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4G75W0i.jpg

derek45
11-02-2020, 10:24 PM
Ha, ha! I don't know whether I should apologize or say you're welcome!
Howard

LOL

I took my 1860, GP100, and 686 out today

Had a great day,.....and damn near made a road trip to see if cabelas had any in stock.

:drinks:

Hrfunk
11-03-2020, 11:20 AM
Good luck, it seems like they're all pretty scarce right now. I would like to get a "Sheriff's Model" 1860 Army, and I can't find one to save my life!

Howard