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leadhead
10-08-2020, 08:24 PM
Guys, What do you think is the best Lyman mold for the .38 and .357?
Denny

derek45
10-08-2020, 10:00 PM
358429

Walks
10-08-2020, 10:13 PM
#358156

metricmonkeywrench
10-08-2020, 10:16 PM
+1 and its bothers the 358429HP/358439HP

and your not wrong if there's a 358156 in the stable

MT Gianni
10-09-2020, 12:02 AM
38-358477, 357 358429. I believe the 429 is trumped by NOE or LBT's 180 fn and bettered by NOE's 160 fn.

Bazoo
10-09-2020, 02:23 AM
I'd like to try some 180 grain wide flat nose bullets, but for now I'm happy with my RCBS 38-150-SWC. If I had to pick a Lyman I spose it'd be the 358477, which the RCBS is nearly identical.

marlin39a
10-09-2020, 06:55 AM
My first was the 358477. Bought it 43 yrs ago, and is a great mold for 357 mag and 38 spl. Need to go hotter, it’s a 358156 GC.

smithnframe
10-09-2020, 07:23 AM
358429 without a doubt!

leadhead
10-09-2020, 02:53 PM
OK guys.... Thanks for the advice. Now, where can I find one of those?
E-Bay is tapped out,And I will not buy a new Lyman mold.
Anyone have an extra one laying around they would sell?
Denny

Gamsek
10-09-2020, 02:58 PM
OK guys.... Thanks for the advice. Now, where can I find one of those?
E-Bay is tapped out,And I will not buy a new Lyman mold.
Anyone have an extra one laying around they would sell?
Denny

https://www.mp-molds.com/bullet-casting-equipment/?pa_caliber=360

Try Here, in stock superb quality and extremely fast shipping ....

lotech
10-10-2020, 08:17 AM
I have and have used the Lyman #358429, #358439, and the #358156 for years. They all work well in both cartridges, but I've seen at least slightly better overall accuracy in both cartridges using the 160 grain H&G #51, the original .357 Magnum bullet.

Johnny_Cyclone
10-10-2020, 09:04 AM
Leadhead,

I just seen a few molds down below for sale in the Swappin' and Sellin ' area

leadhead
10-10-2020, 11:32 AM
Thanks Johnny, Just PM a guy about a mold.
leadhead

rintinglen
10-10-2020, 12:35 PM
My first was the 358477. Bought it 43 yrs ago, and is a great mold for 357 mag and 38 spl. Need to go hotter, it’s a 358156 GC.

My sentiments precisely. I have all three, plus the substandard 357-446, and the 358-477 is the best of the PB Lyman molds IME.

derek45
10-11-2020, 12:47 PM
OK guys.... Thanks for the advice. Now, where can I find one of those?
E-Bay is tapped out,And I will not buy a new Lyman mold.
Anyone have an extra one laying around they would sell?
Denny

http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=65

http://arsenalmolds.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=141

Conditor22
10-11-2020, 12:52 PM
Are we talking rifle or revolver here?

What do you want to do with these boolits -- punch holes, ring steel, kill Bambi?

John Boy
10-11-2020, 01:33 PM
Save your money and buy an Accurate Mold clone

leadhead
10-11-2020, 02:10 PM
OK, I just bought two RCBS molds.... 38-158 SWC and 38-162 SWC.
Anybody have any comments of which one is any better than the other.
The 38-158 SWC does not have a gas check. Can't seem to find a pic
of it.
Denny

Gtrubicon
10-11-2020, 02:25 PM
My son and I have been casting and shooting a lot of the 358665 out of pistol and rifle with very good results.

leadhead
10-11-2020, 02:45 PM
Yea, that looks like a good mold, but I had my heart set on a SWC.
leadhead

Gtrubicon
10-11-2020, 03:00 PM
For SWC I cast the 358429, I actually just bought a second 2c mold that I want to get converted to a hollow point.

MT Gianni
10-11-2020, 03:46 PM
OK, I just bought two RCBS molds.... 38-158 SWC and 38-162 SWC.
Anybody have any comments of which one is any better than the other.
The 38-158 SWC does not have a gas check. Can't seem to find a pic
of it.
Denny

Unless you are pushing them hard out of a rifle the gc is unnecessary and just an extra cost.

leadhead
10-11-2020, 04:35 PM
He claims it doesn't have a gc.
leadhead

mtnman31
10-11-2020, 08:32 PM
Another vote for the 358-477.

Wally
10-11-2020, 09:16 PM
I'd go with the Lyman 358477....the 358429 is too long for my S & W M-27 and Taurus 66.

Larry Gibson
10-11-2020, 09:45 PM
My first was the 358477. Bought it 43 yrs ago, and is a great mold for 357 mag and 38 spl. Need to go hotter, it’s a 358156 GC.

^^^^^^^what he said....

Good Cheer
10-12-2020, 04:47 AM
That RCBS 38-162 is a very good gas check design, just as is the Lyman 358156.
Thirty years ago used that RCBS mold for jack rabbits, quiet low level tack drivers in a Rossi '92. Longer range hold over not hard to do because it was oh so very accurate.
As to not needing a gas check or which mold is best, that depends upon what you are trying to make a given gun do, what you are engineering the load to do.

fivegunner
10-12-2020, 08:03 AM
another vote for 358156. or clone

gwpercle
10-12-2020, 07:39 PM
You really need two :
357 Magnum and 38 Special +P loads.... Lyman #358156 SWC with gas check
38 Special loads .... Lyman #358432 160 grain WC ( this mould is still made by NOE )

Gary

murf205
10-12-2020, 09:19 PM
^^^^^^^what he said....

^^^^^^^What they said^^^^^I never had a 38/357 that did'nt like it

Green Frog
10-13-2020, 08:30 AM
Another vote for the 358156. You can get better bullets for specific applications, but if you’re limited to one bullet, this one can be loaded long or short, with or without its gas check, lightly charged for targets (it’s a SWC after all) or heavy for hunting or self defense, but nothing that does all of these better. It’s even available as an HP, though I’m not convinced that would be all that useful. Oh yeah, also it’s weight hits right in the sweet spot for effective 38/357 bullets. What’s not to like?

Froggie

hondo1892
10-13-2020, 07:53 PM
If you have a S&W N frame the 358429 won't work. The cylinders are too short unless you seat them extra deep. I do like that bullet though.

derek45
10-14-2020, 07:43 AM
the LEE 158 RNFP is a nice one too.

https://i.imgur.com/HDr7xBo.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/64VcjYU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/VaujrwY.jpg

Kraschenbirn
10-14-2020, 05:22 PM
A few months back I was gifted a nearly-mint, 4-cavity 358477 from the early 1980s and it quickly became my favorite for .38/.357 handgun loads. If I need anything over 1100-1150 fps, I go to either the 358156 (w/GC) or the Arsenal 358-165PC (my Rossi 92 really loves that one).

Bill

beagle
10-15-2020, 03:32 PM
Well, I guess it depends on your usage. If I wanted an all purpose bullet, I'd look for a RCBS 38-162-SWC. Grabbed one, removed the GC and HP'd it and it shoots in everything. The 429, although a very good bullet for general use, is sometimes too long for S & Ws or Colts and too long for use in the Marlin M1894C carbines unless seated on the front driving band. There are lots of lighter moulds that will work but I prefer a heavier bullet. This works in my Marlin carbine, a couple of Blackhawks, a M15 Smith and my Colt Python. I love the .38 Special/.357 Magnum guns./beagle