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koyote
09-25-2020, 12:54 AM
Yall are going to hate me for not posting photos right away.

But I just picked this up and I'm currently getting some oil into the parts.

Remington New Model Navy-

standard three lines on the barrel. BUT, it has the nickel silver front sight, not the post referenced on armscollectors. armscollectors also has the serial range for the new navy starting at 23,000 - which fits this specimen - serial 254xx- and the frame is stamped to match tbe barrel under the left grip. Wear and wood condition are about what I'd expect after years of stevens .32 rimfire single shots and so on.

it "cocks when held pointed down" and the cylinder doesn't rotate. Okay, so I take off the trigger guard and the hand falls out. So I have a hand (without the spring). turns out the trigger and stop spring is not tight to the frame, not sure what's going on there as I am soaking things before taking them apart.

cylinder stop is present but doesn't seem to engage.

end shake is not horrible, but not super great. barrel might clean up okay, we'll see.

MAJOR MISSING PARTS: loading lever assembly. all of it. And the Loading lever catch is sheared off, so I'll have to unscrew the remaining part and replace. I don't REALLY mind some repro parts but sure hope I can get originals without spending too much more than I spent on this. (I'd tell you but you might not believe me ...... but I've spent more filling up the 50 gallon tank in the big van.)

Looks like it's not nearly as much of a basket case as I feared, internally.

I'm excited.

koyote
09-25-2020, 10:42 AM
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koyote
09-25-2020, 10:45 AM
okay, still figuring out pictures here. let's see if I can do a few more.

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koyote
09-25-2020, 10:49 AM
The work I'm going to have to do includes some screws (I found the two I need, fortunately) - the hand spring (which I haven't found) and the cylinderstop/trigger spring (which I also haven't found)

Then I'll need a loading lever and a new loading lever catch, which is going to be "fun" to replace

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rancher1913
09-25-2020, 12:28 PM
i got a couple of projects like that for cheep, then found out the parts to complete them would be more than if I had bought a good one to start with, hope your project goes better.

koyote
09-25-2020, 12:53 PM
I've been through the "deal too good to be true" with milsurps- at this point I just part them out. This one looks good. loading lever stuff and two screws (which I already ordered, total of about $25)

I got the stop working, and the trigger/stop spring.

shooting on a shoestring
09-25-2020, 09:54 PM
I’m rooting for you.
Hope you get the old Remington back to shooting shape.
That’s a cool gun and would be a hoot to shoot.

koyote
09-25-2020, 10:34 PM
well, turns out numrich had a "complete" loading lever assembly for $55. .... ... we'll see when it gets here how complete it is, and if it's .44 or .36 (might have to make a .36 rammer). So I'm really more than halfway there. the loading lever catch is going to be the hardest part - not to find, VGP has repro units. But to remove the broken stub and replace.

ddixie884
09-26-2020, 02:00 AM
Yeah good luck..........

bedbugbilly
09-26-2020, 01:35 PM
Looks like a good one to save and hope the loading lever iw workable for it. Good luck and keep this thread going so we know how it all works out!

Der Gebirgsjager
09-26-2020, 01:49 PM
Congratulations on a nice acquisition. It's got to be worth what you paid for it just in the enjoyment you'll have in tinkering with it!

Battis
09-26-2020, 02:07 PM
Can you post a pic of the rear of the cylinder, where the nipples should be?
Also, you can make a spring for the hand out of a bobby pin

Battis
09-27-2020, 01:43 PM
The reason I mentioned the cylinder is because I almost bought one of those Remingtons a few years ago that had been converted to fire cartridges. The loading lever and catch had been removed. To remove the fired cases, you had to poke them out with a stick. The cylinder in yours looks to still have the nipples - a percussion cylinder should still fit. Has the hammer been altered at all?
Just a thought.

koyote
09-27-2020, 02:07 PM
I'll get a photo up, but it is original cylinder. no conversion on the cylinder or hammer.

I have to figure out the shape of the spring, but all I can find photos of is the repros.

Battis
09-27-2020, 02:49 PM
From what I understand, gunsmiths, especially the old "table top", do it yourself-er type, would do their own conversions and keep a percussion cylinder also. It makes no sense that the loading lever and catch were removed.
Anyhoo, check out this site for parts (hand spring, etc)
https://taylorsfirearms.com/uberti-1858-remington-revolver-parts.html

check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ2-7b0tBSQ

If1Hitu
09-27-2020, 11:17 PM
Good luck with it.:drinks:

bigted
10-02-2020, 10:23 PM
I have the Uberti navy and as with all their endeavors with replica's ... they seem very close to originals.

Might try their trigger/lock spring ... if not perfect I betcha you can modify to fit.

Their loading lever latch is a dovetail affair but bettin that it too could be modified to enable silver soldering in place.

Speaking of soldering ... betcha your current leftover latch sheared piece is soldered in place?

koyote
10-02-2020, 10:41 PM
it's threaded. might be soldered in, I'm waiting on the batches of misc. parts to roll in.

I suppose I should try and remove the sheared off plug this weekend.

right now all I'm really missing is the picture of an original hand spring