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Wolfdog91
09-10-2020, 07:56 PM
Just curious if anyone did long range shooting (say 400+) with cast boolits. If so what do you shoot as far as caliber bullet powder lube and target?

megasupermagnum
09-10-2020, 08:15 PM
Just for fun, sure. Either before or after the crops come out of the the field, I'll set targets out as far as 600 yards. It sure is fun shooting handguns, and you can easily see where you hit. I like steel targets which offer somewhat of a reaction, although you can rarely hear them from that far away.

ascast
09-10-2020, 08:18 PM
yes, 38-55, 45-70, various 11mm's, sillywets or paper, lube is generally 50/50 beeswax/crisco. Bullets and powder you need to maybe narrow your question a bit. lot a long rang shooters here.

waco
09-10-2020, 08:42 PM
Yep. .308 with cast boolits over 2500fps at 500 yards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VDouNYi7A

BigAlofPa.
09-10-2020, 09:13 PM
Wow nice shooting!

Edward
09-10-2020, 09:37 PM
Every Friday at our private 800 yd range ,all day affair with barbecue served around 11:30 after the smoke clears ( I shoot a custom built TC 45 Renegade ) .Everyone else shoots centerfire so I practice social distancing around them :bigsmyl2: My load is always a .443/530 gr / elliptical paper patched over a felt wad and 80-90 grains of OE 2F or 3F still trying to find (the load) My 32 in GM barrel is a Bob Hoyt relined 45 /1-18 twist and it"s a long day 55-70 boolits down range and then home for cleaning (me and the gun) Ed

country gent
09-10-2020, 10:19 PM
I have shot 45-90 550, 45-70 535, 40-65 400 and 38-55 360 086 60 out to 500 yds at local silhouette matches.At 500 yds that 550 really rings and makes them jump. The 360 is more a tink but still enough wiggle to see.

The big thing with cast at long range is knowing the trajectory and reading wind. Cast good bullets, a good load and have fun. That 550 at 1150-1200 fps is about 1 second from trigger pull to target :-P

charlie b
09-10-2020, 11:37 PM
.308 210gn bullet (powder coated) at about 1900fps out to 600yd, a bit less than 2MOA. At 300yd and closer I get 1.5MOA almost every group. Quite a few are less than 1MOA. Every now and then I get a flier, probably a bad bullet that I didn't catch in my inspections.

I am working with the 165gn XCB now, but, I don't think I can push it hard enough to get to 600yd (10" twist). It shows some real promise out to 300 or 400yd.

Lots of others do better. For me it is all about the quality of the cast bullet and how it fits your barrel (throat and rifling). And, yes, reading the wind is key to hitting the 10 ring.

Larry Gibson
09-11-2020, 12:37 AM
30 XCB at 2900 fps at 600 yards

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?356607-NOE-30-XCB-30x60-XCB-600-yards

Also; http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?363481-Praire-Doggin-with-the-30-XCB

44Blam
09-11-2020, 01:46 AM
Absolutely!
I shoot at a range that has targets that go out to 880 yards.

I cast for most of my guns and a few of them will get out that far. But yeah, gettting lead out accurately to 1000 yards is about getting a good hard alloy, gas checking it and lube / coating it. AND one super important part is to keep the RPM in an appropriate range.

I cast a few different boolits in 30 cal for my AR10 308 and struggled to get 2 MOA with full power rounds. But back it up and I can get sub MOA. I cannot get 2500 fps sub MOA, however because the twist is 1:10...

I recently bought a 350 Legend upper with a twist of 1:16. I am able to get 125 grain GC boolits sub MOA at 2650 fps.

So, YES! You can shoot long range, you just have to figure out your stuff...

Funny enough - at my range, one of the ROs put 3 shots in a row on the 675 yard target (3'x3' square) with a Glock 17...

Ozark mike
09-11-2020, 05:32 AM
Most of those bpcr guys will take a sharps/highwall/martini henry and shoot out to 1000 yds and further if im goin for long range which is rare ill take a lyman postell over black using crisco/bw this load is probably one of the most accurate loads im aware of

smithnframe
09-11-2020, 06:06 AM
45/70, 550 gr Creedmoor bullet, 70 grs of the Holy black at 1000 yards in my Sharps rifles!

tdoor4570
09-11-2020, 08:47 AM
45-70, 405 cast wheelweight 70gr. pyrodex RS 600 yds. not a problem 1884 springfield trapdoor

dverna
09-11-2020, 11:40 AM
It is astounding what some of you can accomplish.

Nobade
09-11-2020, 03:07 PM
30-06, 1:15 twist, RCBS 165 sil will hold 1.5 moa or less at full pressure with H4350 out to 850 on our range shooting the hanging steel. The slow twist is the key.

farmbif
09-11-2020, 03:45 PM
30-06 311299 and some 4198

charlie b
09-11-2020, 08:22 PM
FWIW, if you want to shoot long range with cast then I suggest you follow the path of Gibson and others. Have a barrel made with a slower twist so you can shoot at higher velocities and a chamber throat that fits the bullets you choose to use.

While large bore rifles can shoot to long range I found the recoil to be tiring. 10 shots and I was done for the day. The low velocities made MOA groups very tough to get.

NC_JEFF
09-11-2020, 08:22 PM
farmbif that's my ingredients as well, the Saeco #315 bullet is also a good performer, both loaded against the lands

reloader28
09-13-2020, 02:21 AM
I shoot 400yds and 12" plates with 44, 45, and 500 pistols. Its pretty addictive

robg
09-13-2020, 11:35 AM
only shoot to 200 yards with my 308 and 357 mag lead loads .once you work out the drop they group well .our range is max 200yards

country gent
09-13-2020, 12:40 PM
Nothing really special about long range, Most have never tried it. Easiest way is to work with a spotter coach and get started. A steel gong helps save a lot of time and energy walking back and forth. Given the opportunity jump at it. Use a good ballistics program to get rough come ups and have fun. Hearing that gong ring and seeing it swing is really rewarding.

gnappi
09-13-2020, 01:35 PM
Reading this I cant wait to try my .308 BAT/s with PC and GC's now.

MT Gianni
09-13-2020, 01:56 PM
There has been a 400+ yard shoot at the Nevada cast get together for 10 years or more. You see almost anything shot there. I have used an 06 but 35 W, 8x57 and a lot of others do well. The hard part of it is any position but bench.

Fast Asleep
09-13-2020, 02:27 PM
When I was doing cowboy action shooting, we regularly shot at 400 to 800 yards and occasionally out to 1000 yards—with iron sights. I shot a Browning BPCR in 40-65 and a 400 grain Snover bullet over Varget powder for about 1400 FPS at the muzzle. Bullets were 20:1 and lubed with 50/50. My shooting friends also used 45-70’s and 45-90’s in Sharps rifle with similar components. When developing a load for my rifle, I mounted a 12x scope and found the gun was easily capable of MOA groups—far better than I can shoot with the iron sights.
I have recently been shooting the 400 yard NCBS match with the same 40-65 Browning but have gone to a 415 grain gas check bullet to reduce leading. I also shoot a Danish rolling block in 8x58 RD using a 260 grain NOE bullet over 5744 powder. Bullets are either Linotype or water dropped wheel weights.

Nobade
09-13-2020, 02:31 PM
Nothing really special about long range, Most have never tried it. Easiest way is to work with a spotter coach and get started. A steel gong helps save a lot of time and energy walking back and forth. Given the opportunity jump at it. Use a good ballistics program to get rough come ups and have fun. Hearing that gong ring and seeing it swing is really rewarding.You make a good point. Long range here in the southwest is a lot easier than in the east where everything is green. You can see your hits in the dust and adjust. When it's trees and grass there's no telling where it went.

waco
09-13-2020, 08:07 PM
And you don't need a super slow twist to ramp up the speed to reach out there either. 1:10 twist in my stock Rem. 700 .308 with the XCB bullet at 2600fps at around 2 MOA at 500 yards. It can be done.